McDonald's Baltimore beating

[cassiesmom]

I heard about this on news radio last night and it made me sick. Two teen girls age 14 and 18 assaulted a 22 year old customer at a McDonald's in the Baltimore area. The 22 year old is transgender and was apparently beaten for using the ladies' washroom. The reporter said the teen girls were warned off first by a restaurant manager and then by a lady customer, but both times they came back. A McDonald's employee recorded the whole incident on his smart phone. The victim started convulsing and that's when the two teens finally gave it up.

My questions are: Why didn't the McDonald's employee use his cell phone to call 911? Weren't there any other employees who could have intervened on the victim's behalf? What about other customers? The news radio station (WGN, Chicago) said McDonald's has a corporate policy of not getting involved in such situations. Whether that's true or not, I don't know. They're defining it as a hate crime. What's happening to people nowadays?

I bet the actions of bystanders might have been very different had it been two men doing the assaulting and a FTM victim.

Here's a link but it contains the actual video, which is pretty graphic.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...ells_news.html

[Pinot's Mom]

I know this case. It happened in Baltimore(not home, but not far away, I work in Baltimore); not proud of this incident obviously. One of the teens evidently has done this before in this same McDonalds. How horribly sick and sad a fourteen year old (and who knows when the first incident was) can harbor this much hate and violence toward anyone at all.

I didn't look at the link as I've seen a lot of footage. I just can't fathom that level of rage.

[wombat2u2004]

Hmm, yeah. He got one beating from those gals.
So where does the issue stand tho, given that it was a male in the ladies washroom ???

[Medusa]

Whether or not the McDonald's employee was allowed to get actively involved doesn't explain why 911 wasn't called. The entire thing is sickening. Hate crime? Is there such a thing as a love crime? B/c it was perpetrated on a transgender person, does that make it any more or less violent? Some of the places that I used to frequent w/girlfriends I no longer go to b/c young girls wait in the restrooms for just such a reason, to jump and beat up unsuspecting women. I can still defend myself, thank goodness for kickboxing classes, but I'm not as quick as I used to be and if there are several against one or even two against one, then I'd probably be in trouble. This has been going on for years and it isn't a "hate crime" issue, that is, they're not selective as to whom they pick on. Everyone is fair game.

Rest rooms now need to be monitored w/security and most establishments probably won't do that b/c it costs money. (And this took place in a MacDonald's, not even in a bar!) Never mind the money they've lost due to loss of business. I used to go to Working Women's Wednesday every week not to drink but just to meet up w/girlfriends, unwind, dance a little and go home. Those days are gone. The punk girls have taken over and the managers/owners have allowed it. It's a shame but it isn't going to end any time soon, I'm afraid.

[moosmom]

The punk girls have taken over and the managers/owners have allowed it. It's a shame but it isn't going to end any time soon, I'm afraid.

Mary, you just summed it up perfectly!!!! Problem is, if you have to have cameras in the restrooms for people's safety, they cry "civil rights violation".

Where the heck were these kids' parents anyways?????

[Medusa]

Well, I wan't talking about cameras. They need to have a live police officer there.

[Bonny]

Well, I wan't talking about cameras. They need to have a live police officer there.

A live police officer with a stun gun. Those two women kept coming back & were as strong as oxes. They are jail bait for sure.

[Catherinedana]

Hmm, yeah. He got one beating from those gals.
So where does the issue stand tho, given that it was a male in the ladies washroom ???

Please tell me that you don't really believe that someone should be beaten into convulsions because they are transgendered?

[Cataholic]

Let's presume for a moment that there is some rule that says employees are prohibited from being involved. At what point does your inner being recognize that you are a person first, THEN an employee? I simply could not stand there and do nothing. I know others could, as I have seen news reports of live footage, and people stand around and do nothing.

Sad.

[wombat2u2004]

Please tell me that you don't really believe that someone should be beaten into convulsions because they are transgendered?

No of course not. I'm assuming that the transgender was male.
What I'm saying is, why was a male in the womens restroom ????

[IRescue452]

I watched the video so let me answers some comments.

The transgendered human being was dressed as and looked female. Who knows if she was post-op or not? If post op then she was fully female. Before you can receive permanent surgury for gender change it is often required that you live as that gender for a certain number of months.

The restaurant was pretty empty except for an older lady who stopped the girls and yelled at them for a while before giving up and leaving.

The police were called by somebody or at least the workers told the girls police were coming.

A few of the workers got the girls (attackers) off this person several times and and soon as they thought it was over and the girls were leaving, the girls would bolt back over and start kicking and beating again.

I'm sure the almost nervous giggling heard by the male workers was just a reaction to what looked like a nasty cat fight. It looked like an area of the country I wouldn't want to live in. These guys have probably witnesses tons of girls dressed like tramps getting into cat fights. They may not have thought much of it at the time but they were yelling stop and trying to intervene through the whole video.

Its a terrible thing to happen but its clear that what I'm reading and what I saw on the video are two different things.

In the video of the victim on the news she looks like she's completed the process of gender change and does look a lot like a woman. She said one of the girls initially started the fight saying the victim was trying to "talk to her man". I'm wondering if this was a hate crime at all. Did they know this was a transgendered woman? Or was it just simply a fight over some crazed whore defending "her man"?

To be honest I'm getting the feeling it was just a brutal assault by some ghetto girls who were raised in a nasty, violent part of the country and it had nothing to do with the victim being transgendered.

[Catherinedana]

If s/he was transgender, then s/he wasn't male anymore. And if s/he was living as female and still had male parts, I'm sure s/he wasn't in the washroom flashing them about. The whole idea is to live as a woman. This isn't about sex and sexuality, it's about gender and identity, which no one should be judge on OR beaten for.

From reading the other posts (Medusa's esp.) it wouldn't have taken much for the girly-thugs to come up with some sort of excuse to beat anyone who had walked into that restroom. They just hit the jackpot here because there are some folks who will justify what they did because of lack of tolerance. That hurts my heart.

[Catherinedana]

I just watched the video. It was the most disgusting thing I have ever seen. Filming this poor person, no one helping. This was a disgrace. I'm ashamed to be part of the human race.

I better not see ANYONE on this website justify this beating for ANY reason!!! Abomination and sickening.

[Taz_Zoee]

I also watched the video (but without sound). I don't care what gender, color or sexual preference the person was.....they did not deserve to be beaten like this person was. There were employees (a manager and a regular employee) that broke it up several times. Then the customer that got involved...the victim grabbed on to her leg for help. That is so sad. Then the victim begins convulsing, after being dragged (by her hair) from the bathroom to the door at the front of the place.

I hope this video helps them identify those girls and they are punished. I didn't read if they did arrest the girls or not.

[Taz_Zoee]

I just watched the video. It was the most disgusting thing I have ever seen. Filming this poor person, no one helping. This was a disgrace. I'm ashamed to be part of the human race.

I better not see ANYONE on this website justify this beating for ANY reason!!! Abomination and sickening.

What do you mean "no one helping"? I saw several people step in and get the girls off of her numerous times. I don't know what more they could have done (other than start beating the crap out of the girls, then they would be as bad as those little punks). And we don't know who (or when) anyone called 911. Sure the guy filming the video was a jerk..but there were lots of people there. Several that did step in and several more that could (and must have) called 911. The only people to blame in this incident are those two girls.

What would you have done if you were there? I know I would have called 911 if someone else hadn't already. Otherwise, I wouldn't have tried to step in for fear of them turning around and punching or kicking me.