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    What can we do about this?

    There is a nursing home next to our house. About 6 months ago, they instituted a policy of no smoking on company grounds. That meant the employees left the grounds to smoke on MY property. We called the nursing home and complained. Things were good for a while, where we would have to occasionally call the home to remind them to remind their employees about smoking on our property.

    but a few weeks ago they hired a new punk. No better word for him but punk. He's about 18 (maybe 20) and thinks he knows everything and has a mouth on him. I asked him politely to move long and smoke elsewhere. My husband asked him. We've asked him several times. We called the nursing home and for the first time we got no response from them. Today he was outide smoking on our curb again. This time, I grabbed my camera and told him that I was taking his picture to take to his boss.

    It escallated to polite yelling of "I'm filing harrassment charges" from all parties in the nursing home lobby -- him, me, and Cameron (I couldn't leave him home alone!) He was there the whole time telling the nursing home people NOBODY should smoke outside HIS house... comic relief at its best (seriously, imagine it, a three year old standing there adamently telling a mad man that he's not allowed to smoke in the yard
    !!!)

    So I left the nursing home with NO resolution, except two head people appologizing and telling me that the young man in question is new and didn't understand. I was actually in tears in the lobby...... I had nose surgery two days ago for my sinus issues. I take allergy shots every week. I am highly sensetive to cigarette smoke, and I don't think I should have to deal with HIS smoke invading MY home.

    I did stop by the police station after the "incident" and they said technically he's allowed on my curb but I am also allowed to call them and file a complain every time he sits there. It could turn into a major fight if this guy decides to become a jerk about it. And I'm afraid he will.

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    A hose, and a dousing every time he's there. He'll "get it" and you can say "I was just watering the grass!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    A hose, and a dousing every time he's there. He'll "get it" and you can say "I was just watering the grass!"
    I was just photgraphing my property this afternoon. He said my photograph of him was harassment since I had asked him to stop smoking there earlier. I can only imagine his reaction to the hose being turned on him.

    He is SUCH a punk. He stood up in the center of the street and asked sarcastically, "isn't THIS public property" of course the middle of the street is public property! I was referring to MY grass that he had his tooshie parked on moments earlier.

    I can envision him and his buddies egging our cars, painting our fence, etc. in defiance of today's spat.

    All I wanted was to have him smoke elsewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    A hose, and a dousing every time he's there. He'll "get it" and you can say "I was just watering the grass!"
    Good idea!! He really shouldn't be smoking on your curb, especially if you have issues regarding cigarette smoke. Maybe you can find some way to make your curb a no smoking zone? Maybe one of the neighbors who does smoke will be inclined to volunteer their curb to the smokers?

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    If he's just standing there on the curb, I would think that would be on the road's right-of-way, and there's not much you can do about that.
    However, if he sets foot on your lawn, then you can possibly get him for trespassing.
    Just a theory. I'm not a lawyer.


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    Place a no trespassing/Please No smoking sign at the edge of the lawn.

    Take photos.

    Next, write a little note to the facility and explain to them that you would appreciate THEIR cooperation in keeping you home/area smoke free. Hand deliver it with some cookies to the head of the place.

    Keep your cool- My dad used to say.....

    Mejor tener un loco, y no dos!

    Better to have one crazy person, not two!

    Then if the shiat still hits the fan and you have to make a stand, you have a position that no one can challenge.

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    But isn't a certain distance between the the kerb and your property boundary, actually public property ??? Such as where the public utility would locate a footpath. If that is the case, and he is standing and smoking on that strip then he has a perfect right to do that legally. Not morally mind you, as you have expressed your concerns to the nursing home.
    If he were standing on public property, and you stuck the hose on him, he could have you charged with assault....because he is doing nothing illegal.

    Perhaps the better way to go, is to seek out the people who actually own the nursing home, or senior management, and express your concerns to them.
    Tell them that your health is suffering because of that guy smoking in close proximity of your house.
    And why doesn't the nursing home provide an area specifically for smokers....they do here in Australia.


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    Try contacting the department of elder affairs in your area and see if they will send out an ambudsman to act as an intermediary between you and the Nursing Home. The NH will not want complaints about them to reach Dept of Elder Affairs, believe me.

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    I had nose surgery two days ago for my sinus issues. I take allergy shots every week. I am highly sensetive to cigarette smoke
    have you told him this? maybe if you change tactic and ask for his understanding he might be a bit more reasonable. If not, then I agree with Karen - turn the hose on him!

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    Is there something you could spray in the area?

    Can you think of some foul stinky spray to put in that area, so he (the smoker) will not be so comfortable? How about having a portable sprinkler going - on a timer and let him get a little wet!

    Gosh, I think he needs his block knocked off ...... I am surprised your husband has stayed as cool as he has.....

    I think I would rent a big, nasty, loud dog....and stake him right near the smoker........

    I sound mean, don't I?

    I am so considerate of my neighbors that it infuriates me to see and hear about others who are not....

    Keep us posted....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasvermont View Post
    Can you think of some foul stinky spray to put in that area, so he (the smoker) will not be so comfortable? How about having a portable sprinkler going - on a timer and let him get a little wet!

    Gosh, I think he needs his block knocked off ...... I am surprised your husband has stayed as cool as he has.....

    I think I would rent a big, nasty, loud dog....and stake him right near the smoker........

    I sound mean, don't I?

    I am so considerate of my neighbors that it infuriates me to see and hear about others who are not....

    Keep us posted....

    SAS
    I can see setting Callie loose on him.... she's kill him with jumping. Actually, she's not too sure of most men, so maybe.........


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    I have one who is stealing my internet
    you can lock it so nobody can use it apart from you - not sure how though but I am sure someone here will be able to help you with the technical stuff

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    Is a fence an option?

    When you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catherinedana View Post
    Is a fence an option?
    We have one, but that doesn't stop the neighbor's cat or the other neighbor's dog from pooping on the spots outside the fence.

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    Does the nursing home own itself? I'd go past the on-site administrator to the head of the holding company. Although they have the right to establish a smoke-free facility, they also have a responsibility to be good neighbors.

    Could you contact the Better Business Bureau? Forward the photographs to the local newspaper (Dear editor, see what a bad corporate citizen this facility is!) ?
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