Politics and religion.

[Edwina's Secretary]

...and I read in today's paper (letters to the editor)...that Obama has connections to the Kenyan Muslims (a powerful internationally known terrorist group????) and that his candidacy is an attempt by the Kenyan Muslims to take over the United States.

All hope is lost for an intelligent discussion of the issues...

[RICHARD]

LOL,

This is a great thread.


Let me dismiss the Kenyan connection. That sounds like a right wing conspiracy.

I do the richardspeak when I can't get a arguement that satisfies me.

When I toss out a thought I get back the TYPICAL "How highschool!" post.

Isn't that what the US is all about? Picking the 'best' person to lead us? It seems that I should be able to question the qualifications and character of any candidate running for office.

BO could put a flag on a staff and fly it from any orifice on his body.
It doesn't change the ideals that he and his wife has expressed.

How's about a post where you can defend some of the statements BO has made about his church? Or what his wife said about the US being mean and lazy? Most of these AHs use the "out of context", "misqouted" defense.
How's about thinking before they make a statement?

Seems like BO never heard the rev spewing hate, then he may have heard something and then there ain't no doubt about what kind of message came out of Wright's mouth.

I guess it's OK to be associated with a hatemonger, as a friend, not a spiritual
advisor. Besides the "freedom of speech" angle, can you defend the AIDS reference Wright made? How's about the little simulated sex act at the pulpit?
The USKKK of A sermon?

The comments about Wright and grandma being old and the product of stereotyping by the media doesn't make you think a bit? Didn't the "typical white person" comment make you wonder about his stereotyping white people?

Defend MO's statements.

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The world stopped when the female announcer made a comment about Tiger Woods being lynched by his fellow golfers. Could it be because he wins every fricking Open he enters? Nope, It's all racial and it don't matter that TW wasn't worried about it.

The lynching subject comes up during a sermon at the same pulpit where Wright spews his BS. Lynching again associated with a black man and
where is rev Sharptongue to denounce the use of word in THAT situation?

Ah,
Ignore the man behind the curtain. (That is a reference to the Wizard of OZ)
It seems like a little old man pulled the wool over the eyes of the people of OZ until someone figured out what was going on.

Are you still with me??

BO has the same flash, smoke and mirrors going on-The media pulled the curtain to the side and it's time to see who the real candidate is.

If you read this post this far, send me 5,000 dollars. I got you where I want you.

[lizbud]

OMG I'm starting to understand you Richard. Is that a good thing
or not?

Anyway, I think BO's slip of the tongue, off the cuff, or whatever you want
to call it, was a huge gaffe on his part. It was his subconscious speaking
and not the well rehearsed rhetoric he's so famous for.

[RICHARD]

OMG I'm starting to understand you Richard. Is that a good thing
or not?

Anyway, I think BO's slip of the tongue, off the cuff, or whatever you want
to call it, was a huge gaffe on his part. It was his subconscious speaking
and not the well rehearsed rhetoric he's so famous for.

You can keep the 5 grand.

BO is painful to watch when he "speaks without a safety net".

The UMs, You Knows and pauses make me cringe. The other night I counted
14 ums in the space of two minutes. If you wanted to play a drinking game using the UM as the criteria for talking a drink, You'd lose your liver in 20 minutes. Some people will take the UMs as a sign that someone is thinking about what will come out of their mouth.

I really don't see that in this case.

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I saw Mitt Romney during the torch run of the Salt Lake City Olympic Games.
That dude was sharply dressed, very official and was very well spoken. I am not star-struck or impressed by stars, politicians or athletes anymore. I don't 'like' men either.

I could not keep my eyes off of him. He has a very apparent aura about him- he has presence. When the Mormon/Polygamy scandal came up, I laughed. OOHHH! Your church used to allow multiple wives. What about the Catholic Church? If the Muslims are still sore about the Crusades I am sure we can put any religion under a microscope and find fault.

MR didn't have a spiritual advisor problem. As much as the media tried to connect him with polygamy it didn't pan out.

Here you have a situation where a candidate for the presidency refuses to sever the ties he has to a person who has made some of the goofiest statements against the same government who probably grant his church a
non profit/tax free status.

Liz,
Don't bother to try and understand me. I'm not running for any office. Try to get into the heads of the people who want the presidency-they are the one who count!

[RICHARD]

I stand corrected!

I was just informed that BO has never refused to place his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance.

Flog away!

[caseysmom]

I stand corrected!

I was just informed that BO has never refused to place his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance.

Flog away!

Never believed it for a second anyhow. I considered the source.

[RICHARD]

Never believed it for a second anyhow. I considered the source.

That happens when I cinch up my pants. I really can't hear myself speak through the fabric in the seat.

I've PMed you my address, send me my money-no checks-just small bills.

C&S

Recycle the sign ......or on second thought......I may have an office in my regime...ah, cabinet for you. Interested?


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What's up with Bill Richardson??

In keeping with the religion part of the thread...... James Carville called BR a "Judas" for endorsing BO. Richardson is a good pal of the Clintons but decided to back Obama. Apparently, the pundits believe that it guarantees Obama the Hispanic vote...Nope, the only thing guaranteed is BR on the short list as Obama's running partner should the nod go to him. Another 'attractive' selling point for his quest for the White House.

"Hey look, Not only did I get a Hispanic dude to help me win, I got him to help run the country....."

Thank god we are getting past the issue of race....

[Randi]

Puckstop, Yes, almost all politicians are human beings who care about the society in which they live and chose to work, making that society better. They represent the people who elect them!


As Smokey the Elder said:

The best of us will see more similarities than differences in peoples of the world, regardless of politics, culture or religion.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I stand corrected!

I was just informed that BO has never refused to place his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance.

Flog away!

Hyperbole, exaggeration, out of context, distortion....<<shrug>> what's new?

[RICHARD]

Hyperbole, exaggeration, out of context, distortion....<<shrug>> what's new?

If you get a warm compress and sterilize a needle you can lance a hyperbole.

Or just deny you have one!

What's new with you......Got any points to defend?

[RICHARD]

Hyperbole, exaggeration, out of context, distortion....<<shrug>> what's new?

Oh Oh! I thought you said HYPER BOIL!

C&S

It's the Liquor Cabinet!
Kidding, I can make you King of Lost Angeles! Nice weather, smog, traffic and beautiful women.

[Cinder & Smoke]

I'm not running for any office.

Awwwww... NUTZ!

I was just about to color in my RICH fur PREZ sign!

Whadda'my gonna do with it now?

[Edwina's Secretary]

I do the richardspeak when I can't get a arguement that satisfies me.

And that, my friend, (to quote McCain) says it all. If the argument doesn't satisfy you.......

I see 4,000 of this country's best and brightest dead and 25,000+ maimed...in a war predicated on lies....I see a economy in very bad shape -- reported today that consumer confidence is at its lowest since 1973 and the Arab Oil Embargo and Watergate...and an administration with only one solution -- reduce taxes for the rich! I see oil at $100/barrel plus and approaching $4.00/gal. I see a weak dollar and a federal deficit that will be paid for by your children's children's children...unless they are rich.

I don't care with whom or to whom someone prays...I don't care if they pray. I don't care what jewelry they wear or to whom they are married or who picks out their clothes.

I care about whether someone can lead. And what ideas they have for restoring the luster of this country. And how they will put together a team with a focus on this country and its needs. I am not sure which of the candidates I feel that could be but ...

... I think fussing about what is in their lapel or how many times they say "um" or what their middle name is or any of this "style vs substance" stuff debases the process of selecting a leader.

Good luck in finding an argument that satisfies you....

[caseysmom]

Double bravo...