Politics and religion.

[RICHARD]

Here's my acid test.....

No, not THAT kind of acid!

Start out in the morning and look for that flower in your neighborhood.

Then look at a tree.

Walk by a school full of kids.

Have an apple for lunch.

Go check out a pet store and look at the fishes

Watch the sun go down, the stars light up and the moon rise in the sky.

Someone or something has been hard at work putting all that shiat around us.

He might be a brown haired,blue eyed dude, someone who cannot be drawn in any manner, a prophet or the head of a 'pseudo religion' based in Lost Angeles.

They don't have the chops to explain anything about the world came to be.

It's way bigger that you, I, our pets or the internet.

Faith is good, IT's when we start making my god better than yours when we get into problems.

[Medusa]

At one time, people had complete trust that the earth was flat until it could be disproved. IMO, that wasn't faith; it was gullibility. They questioned it and found out differently.

[Medusa]

Faith is good, IT's when we start making my god better than yours when we get into problems.

Amen, RICHARD.

I find, also, that some of what passes as faith is actually fear, fear of what might happen to someone if they don't believe a certain way. Some people act, not out of love, but out of fear and of having to be right, i.e., "Well, that's the way it is because and I don't question it." Look at how many people had put their faith in not eating meat on Fridays, only to be told later that it's ok now. The rule has been rescinded. Questioning is good. Blind acceptance, IMO, is folly and oft times dangerous. If my God can't stand up to a little scrutiny, how powerful can s/he be and why would I put my faith, my trust in a deity like that? The tested quality of our faith works out endurance.

[lizbud]

Amen, RICHARD.

I find, also, that some of what passes as faith is actually fear, fear of what might happen to someone if they don't believe a certain way. Some people act, not out of love, but out of fear and of having to be right, i.e., "Well, that's the way it is because and I don't question it." Look at how many people had put their faith in not eating meat on Fridays, only to be told later that it's ok now. The rule has been rescinded. Questioning is good. Blind acceptance, IMO, is folly and oft times dangerous. If my God can't stand up to a little scrutiny, how powerful can s/he be and why would I put my faith, my trust in a deity like that? The tested quality of our faith works out endurance.

You can question people's reasons for faith, but it doesn't change what
faith is & is not. It is not ignorance,fear or being right.

The eating meat on Friday was not right or wrong, it was a custom that
signified a giving up something of value as an offering to God. It was like
a penance. It is still practiced during Lent by many Catholics out of choice.

[Medusa]

You can question people's reasons for faith, but it doesn't change what
faith is & is not. It is not ignorance,fear or being right.

The eating meat on Friday was not right or wrong, it was a custom that
signified a giving up something of value as an offering to God. It was like
a penance. It is still practiced during Lent by many Catholics out of choice.

I don't disagree w/you. However, it was a custom, as you call it, that people didn't deviate from for fear of going to hell. At least that's what my Catholic friends told me and they were dismayed when they were told that there was a new ruling on the matter. It isn't my intention to find fault w/religion nor to argue. I've made my point.

[phesina]

I don't disagree w/you. However, it was a custom, as you call it, that people didn't deviate from for fear of going to hell. At least that's what my Catholic friends told me and they were dismayed when they were told that there was a new ruling on the matter. It isn't my intention to find fault w/religion nor to argue. I've made my point.

That reminds me of a cartoon I saw (in the New Yorker, maybe?) soon after the Catholic Church said it's okay now to eat meat on Fridays except during Lent:

Scene: Satan on his throne in hell with the fires burning around... A little devil has come up and is asking "Okay, now what do we do with all those people who ate meat on Fridays?"

[RICHARD]

Scene: Satan on his throne in hell with the fires burning around... A little devil has come up and is asking "Okay, now what do we do with all those people who ate meat on Fridays?"

Make them Democrats?

Or give them an eating disorder?

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Meghan McCain is a fricking hottie, no wonder Coulter and that other twit are jealous of her!

[Marigold2]

Scene: Satan on his throne in hell with the fires burning around... A little devil has come up and is asking "Okay, now what do we do with all those people who ate meat on Fridays?"[/quote]

Why Barbecue Sauce of course

[RICHARD]

I'd think Satan would hold a Donner Party Party!


Tastes like chikin!

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I have to laugh at all the talk about BO 'bowing' to the emir or whoever that joker was.


I had a good chuckle at the film clip - BO had dropped the keys to AF One, that was the reason for the deep flex in front of that quack.

I thought back to the rules of flying/displaying the flag and know that no matter what happens, Old Glory never is dipped or lowered for anyone or anything.

So, the physical figurehead of the country seems to have a spine, but may not know when to make it stiff?

[RICHARD]

Hey, let's fly an empty 747 real low over NYC. Morons... Notice any complaints from any one?

[lizbud]

I don't disagree w/you. However, it was a custom, as you call it, that people didn't deviate from for fear of going to hell. At least that's what my Catholic friends told me and they were dismayed when they were told that there was a new ruling on the matter. It isn't my intention to find fault w/religion nor to argue. I've made my point.

Your Catholic friends were wrong in labeling that as a mortal sin. I don't
want to argue either. Peace.

[Medusa]

Your Catholic friends were wrong in labeling that as a mortal sin. I don't
want to argue either. Peace.

LOL. Those Catholic friends of mine are priests. I worked at a Catholic church rectory for a few years and was privy to have discussions w/them on such subjects. If they were wrong, then I guess I can see why others might not always be right regarding church doctrine. Peace back atcha.

[Medusa]

You can question people's reasons for faith, but it doesn't change what
faith is & is not. It is not ignorance,fear or being right.

The eating meat on Friday was not right or wrong, it was a custom that
signified a giving up something of value as an offering to God. It was like
a penance. It is still practiced during Lent by many Catholics out of choice.

One last thing, though: (sorry ) Earlier you had asked if the meaning of the word Christian has changed and, in turn, Puckstop asked what being a Christian means to you. W/out scrolling back, I can't recall if you addressed the question and, if so, I guess I missed it. My apologies in advance if you had. (We rather got off topic w/the discussion of faith.)

[blue]

One last thing, though: (sorry ) Earlier you had asked if the meaning of the word Christian has changed and, in turn, Puckstop asked what being a Christian means to you. W/out scrolling back, I can't recall if you addressed the question and, if so, I guess I missed it. My apologies in advance if you had. (We rather got off topic w/the discussion of faith.)

She didnt answer Pucks question. I also would like to see her answer, but Im not going to hold my breath.

[Puckstop31]

She didnt answer Pucks question. I also would like to see her answer, but Im not going to hold my breath.

I just want to say that my question was an honest one, necessary to answer hers.

I am not looking for a fight, like I am usually accused these days.