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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    Faith is the belief in things unseen,and unknowable.


    I would rather believe in God (heaven & all the rest), than not believe,
    die and find out how wrong I was.
    Agreed, 100%.

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    To quote the King James version of the scripture: "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen". - Hebrews 11:1 The Living Bible says it a bit differently: "Faith...is the certainty that what we hope for is waiting for us, even though we cannot see it up ahead".`

    All we have is evidence. We don't have proof positive of a God or we wouldn't be having this discussion. We would all be in agreement. To say that we know absolutely would be arrogant because we don't really know. We do, however, have evidence, strong evidence of a supreme being. We can't see the wind but we can feel and see its effects. It would be foolish to deny the existence of the wind but how do we prove that it actually exists? We can't; we only have evidence by what it can do. We have faith, the evidence of things not seen.
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    As for virgin births: cloning is an example of a modern day version of it.
    No matter what anyone does, someone some where will be offended some how!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces View Post
    As for virgin births: cloning is an example of a modern day version of it.

    Possible now but not 2000 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2 View Post
    Possible now but not 2000 years ago.
    With God, all things are possible.

    He's gazillions of times smarter than people. We just took this long to figure this much out. We may never know for sure how the virgin birth happened but then, we aren't supposed to know EVERYTHING. Our tiny brains would probably explode!
    No matter what anyone does, someone some where will be offended some how!!!!
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    If we aren't supposed to know we wouldn't have been told in the first place. IMO, accepting something as fact w/out question isn't faith, it's gullibility. Also, IMO, God wants us to investigate further; that's how we learn and build our faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    IMO, accepting something as fact w/out question isn't faith, it's gullibility.


    Oh, but it is. It is the very definition of faith.



    Main Entry: 1faith
    Pronunciation: \ˈfāth\
    Function: noun
    Inflected Form(s): plural faiths \ˈfāths, sometimes ˈfāthz\
    Etymology: Middle English feith, from Anglo-French feid, fei, from Latin fides; akin to Latin fidere to trust — more at bide
    Date: 13th century

    1 a: allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1): fidelity to one's promises (2): sincerity of intentions
    2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2): complete trust
    3: something that is believed especially with strong conviction ; especially : a system of religious beliefs <the Protestant faith>
    synonyms see belief
    — on faith : without question <took everything he said on faith>
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