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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonny View Post
    And All The Freedoms Were Slowly Snuffed Out.
    Don't be sad Bonny.
    Look at it this way.....you'll still be able to eat your turkey, with a spoon.
    No need for a knife and fork....that effectively halves the amount of cutlery you will need to wash after the dinner.....you'll have that going for ya


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    Around 2003 or 2004 my daughter in law graduated from St. Ambrose. There was a Polish man by the name of Lech Walesa that spoke to the graduates & crowd in general. He told all of us to hold onto our freedoms don't left them be taken away from us. So easily said but so hard to hold on to in reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonny View Post
    Around 2003 or 2004 my daughter in law graduated from St. Ambrose. There was a Polish man by the name of Lech Walesa that spoke to the graduates & crowd in general. He told all of us to hold onto our freedoms don't left them be taken away from us. So easily said but so hard to hold on to in reality.
    Lech Walesa is a very clever man, I've read some of his work on anti-socialism.
    Too bad Lech isn't running your country.


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    What an interesting fact! Union membership in the US - in private industry is about 6.9% and 36% in the public sector continuing a downward trend.

    In Australia private sector union memberhsip is 14% and growing! Public sector - that is government employees - 46%. Wow.

    Those maties are a far way down the road to socialism! Look sharp maties or you'll be swallowed up in carbon taxes and union members...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    What an interesting fact! Union membership in the US - in private industry is about 6.9% and 36% in the public sector continuing a downward trend.

    In Australia private sector union memberhsip is 14% and growing! Public sector - that is government employees - 46%. Wow.

    Those maties are a far way down the road to socialism! Look sharp maties or you'll be swallowed up in carbon taxes and union members...
    That is interesting, any chance of a source link?

    I have viewed Ausie society going the way of the Socialist for many many years.
    I have a HUGE SIG!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    That is interesting, any chance of a source link?

    I have viewed Ausie society going the way of the Socialist for many many years.
    Ho hum.....looks like we've been hit with FACTS again by THE ONE WHO KNOWS ALL.
    You won't get source facts from that spoilt arrogant yankee.
    blue....she ain't got a source....hee hee.

    Now for some real facts.
    Australia has one of the best health systems in the world. We probably have one of the lowest unemployment figures in the world. Unionism rears it's ugly head every time a Labor party gets voted in, but they won't last long, and the unions will fall back on their butts where they belong.
    Australia doesn't have a shot economy, almost falling into third world status like some. The Australian dollar is way stronger than the US dollar. And, believe it or not, we here have more freedom of speech than you all in US do.

    Good God, who is she calling "Maties".....I could'nt imagine any Australian in their right mind who would even consider "mateship" with that one....I think that term would be well beyond her.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat2u2004 View Post
    Now for some real facts.
    Australia has one of the best health systems in the world.
    Wom, how does the Australian health system work? I'd really like to know more about that. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    That is interesting, any chance of a source link?

    I have viewed Ausie society going the way of the Socialist for many many years.
    Sure blue...the numbers are from 2010 but, before the nay-sayers attack, labor statistics are not usually reported in "real time."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    What an interesting fact! Union membership in the US - in private industry is about 6.9% and 36% in the public sector continuing a downward trend.

    Why such a disparity between the public sector and private industry, I wonder?
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by cassiesmom View Post
    Why such a disparity between the public sector and private industry, I wonder?
    There are a couple reasons for the difference. Unions are attractive to employees who do not feel any control over their worklife - employees who work for large, impersonal employers where the decisions makers are far away from them. That rather defines most public sector jobs - postal service, firefighters, police, teachers, etc. Hospital are becoming fertile ground for union organizers - large organizations - decision makers far away.

    Smaller employers are more able to know what is going on in the organization and put out fires. Smaller organization can simply respond faster to problems.

    Wages are rarely the reason most union campaigns get started. And most campaigns begin when employees contact the union rather than the other way around. When I was working in labor relations I was involved in a few campaigns - and every time it was the same thing - favoritism - the boss.

    For example, in San Diego County the average number of employee is 12. Most people in the US public sector work for small/medium sized employers where the perceived need for a union is less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    There are a couple reasons for the difference. Unions are attractive to employees who do not feel any control over their worklife - employees who work for large, impersonal employers where the decisions makers are far away from them. That rather defines most public sector jobs - postal service, firefighters, police, teachers, etc. Hospital are becoming fertile ground for union organizers - large organizations - decision makers far away.

    Smaller employers are more able to know what is going on in the organization and put out fires. Smaller organization can simply respond faster to problems.

    Wages are rarely the reason most union campaigns get started. And most campaigns begin when employees contact the union rather than the other way around. When I was working in labor relations I was involved in a few campaigns - and every time it was the same thing - favoritism - the boss.

    For example, in San Diego County the average number of employee is 12. Most people in the US public sector work for small/medium sized employers where the perceived need for a union is less.
    You mention favoritism - the boss. What do you mean by that? Like ignoring someones seniority in the company, breaking company rules, as an example. The boss would be non-union working for the company as the employee would be union working for the company type of thing? Do the bosses get reprimanded by the company like firing or transferred someplace else? I know of a company three faults by the employee even if they are protected by the union & out the door they go.

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