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    It was former Pres. Bush who set up the troop withdrawal timeline for Iraq, not the current President.

    Frankly the last three US Presidential elections could have been handily won by "none of the above".
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    Politics question

    Karen or Paul, I was looking for the "Politics/Religion Thread" to put this in. I wasn't able to find it. If you want to add this to that thread, that would be fine with me.

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    I saw this on Pinterest

    Isn't this sort of what the welfare system does? I work and pay taxes, so I'm the child in the picture who has built a tower of Legos. Other people, who can't work, receive welfare. Yes, there are some people receiving welfare who maybe shouldn't (the kids who have been napping all day). I thought that was the point of this caption, so I pinned it. A comment was posted under my pin by someone whose opinion I respect (but we disagree on politics), so I took it down. I've seen firsthand that the public aid process, at least in Illinois, is very vulnerable to fraud. The state is taking steps to correct that, but it is not an easy process.

    I also saw on "60 Minutes" on Sunday evening that Romney paid 14% taxes on his income of around two million dollars. He claimed that it was subject to that lower tax rate because it had already been taxed once. But that's not the point -- you made two million dollars, Mr. Romney. I didn't do the math and 14% of $2 million might still be more than I paid. It still doesn't make sense to me.

    It's a pretty close race. I don't think I'd want a job where almost half the selection committee felt that I was not the most qualified candidate for it. Am I better off than I was four years ago, in some ways yes but in some ways no.
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    Elyse, that is a very anti - Obama posting.
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    I am SO glad that our Canadian elections last only for 6 weeks...
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    One of my favorite things to do is to tune in to the channel (the name rhymes with EmmEsEnBeeCee) and listen to the 'commentary' from the 'hosts'.

    My fave is that little guy with the brit accent that is pretty much a rude, ill-mannered hack that make fun of the 'system'.

    I don't watch - rhymes with Sox - any more because they pull the same creepy commentary on their shows.

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    When you look at the media as a whole?

    Everyone puts out the same BS and tries to demonize the opposing party.

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    The thing that makes me secretly laugh and want to mock politics is when people on the tube talk about the
    'attacks' on their faves, when they propogate the same kind of hate and trash themselves.

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    In the end, politicians do not give a sideways eff about you or me.

    They want your donations and votes - after that?

    You tell me.

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    I'd rather vote in a cat or dog for the prez's seat.

    They only want to please you, they are always happy to see you and will not eff you over.

    With a pet, you know where the crap is, can stop it and can smell it.

    Politicians doll it up and tell you that it's a used alimentary product.
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    Right On There Richard
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    Democracy/religion

    With the danger of being called a racist, I must say I find this appalling! The board in a housing estate North of Copenhagen have voted on whether they should have a Christmas tree on the grounds, like they've had for about 40 years, but since the majority on the board are Muslims, they voted no. Even though they used quite a sum of money to finance their Eid celebration.

    I really think we have gone too far to satisfy the Muslins' way of living. Some kinder gardens won't serve pork for the children, either and one verse in a hymnal has been taken out, also.

    When people come to live in a foreign country, they should at least try to adapt to the ways of the country they choose to live in.

    I wonder how Americans would react?

    You can read more here and it seems it will/are being sorted out:

    http://cphpost.dk/news/national/canc...private-donors



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    Unfortunately, a lot of Americans act the same way. Some find the much used greeting, etc of "Merry Christmas", to be offensive. Their way of thinking is that not everybody is Christian and celebrates this holiday., so this term should no longer be used. It has gotten so bad, that most businesses have the operator answer the phones with "Happy Holiday", for fear of being what some people might say "offensive" to the person on the other end of the line. Many town halls, government buildings, etc, no longer put up a "Christmas" tree or Nativity scene, because it isn't "religiously correct", and how dare we forget "separation of church and state"!

    All of this crap just makes my blood boil. People have chosen to take a beautiful and peaceful time of year with lovely traditions, and turn it into a political/religious battlefield. How sad for everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pomtzu View Post

    All of this crap just makes my blood boil. People have chosen to take a beautiful and peaceful time of year with lovely traditions, and turn it into a political/religious battlefield. How sad for everyone!
    My thoughts exactly. It is really pathetic. Everyone talks all this good talk about this whole "Peace on Earth" feelings and then get mad when you don't properly address their holiday. It makes no sense! If someone told me to have a nice Eid or whatever I would thank them, you don't even need to say you don't celebrate that holiday. They wished you a happy holiday either way, I don't get any of it.

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    It is a democracy, so the majority usually rules. As long as they would not prohibit me from putting up a Christmas tree at my house, I'd have no problem with it. But it would be better to let everyone celebrate their traditions, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    It is a democracy, so the majority usually rules.
    It certainly doesn't in the examples that I listed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    It is a democracy, so the majority usually rules. As long as they would not prohibit me from putting up a Christmas tree at my house, I'd have no problem with it. But it would be better to let everyone celebrate their traditions, of course.
    I have to disagree.

    The side with the best lawyers and deepest pockets wins.

    I'd have major issues with what happened, as when the US was in Saudi Arabia, your Christmas tree story aside, female soldiers were held to a different dress code acknowledged by the SOFA. In addition, foreign nationals are usually in housing/living areas away from the general populace, (esp. in Saudi Arabia) so the rules in those specific areas are relaxed. I would dare someone to erect a public nativity in downtown Riyadh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randi View Post
    With the danger of being called a racist, I must say I find this appalling! The board in a housing estate North of Copenhagen have voted on whether they should have a Christmas tree on the grounds, like they've had for about 40 years, but since the majority on the board are Muslims, they voted no. Even though they used quite a sum of money to finance their Eid celebration.

    I really think we have gone too far to satisfy the Muslins' way of living. Some kinder gardens won't serve pork for the children, either and one verse in a hymnal has been taken out, also.

    When people come to live in a foreign country, they should at least try to adapt to the ways of the country they choose to live in.

    I wonder how Americans would react?

    You can read more here and it seems it will/are being sorted out:

    http://cphpost.dk/news/national/canc...private-donors
    Hats off to the private donors. I hope they have a MERRY CHRISTMAS.
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    Well, the point is that 90% of the people living there accepted the Muslims's Eid celebration and that cost a lot more, but more important, if people settle down in another country, they should accept the customs of that country and not demand that the citizens change their way of living and adapt to their rules! If I went to an Arabic country, do you think they'd let me walk around without a scarf covering my head and serve me pork, or have a Christmas tree put up in the Square!



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    I kinda think, when in Rome... But then again, my neighbors to the left are Jehova Witnesses and the ones to the right are Muslims. We all live in peace but we don't give them a Christmas card or invite them to my Auntys notoriously long and drawn out Hanukkah shindigs. To each his own. Having your priorities in perspective doesn't hurt.

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