I just wanted to add in addition to my reply that this is what I'd like to see done FIRST.
Once a product has been considered safe by the toxicity's reports, THEN before product release have a small group test it.
I'm sorry, but i don't want to be using a shampoo on my dog that hasn't been tested for safety. (as example)
Cincy'sMom's post ...I applaud companies like that.
Originally Posted by
Cincy'sMom
I too work in an area where I have first hand knowledge of animal testing. I am not directly involved in it myself, as I work for a chemistry depratment, where we are actaully looking to minimize animal testing. We encourage our clients to use chemistry to understand and predict the toxicology of their products before any animals are used. We also do as much testing as possible through in vitro (test tube) methods, again, to gather as much information ahead of time before any animals are exposed.
Our company tests strictly medical devices (no cosemetics) and as Smokey said, it is required and tightly control by the FDA. We may not like it, but the fact is every pharmcuetical and every medical device we use every day has to go through this testing.
Another way we are trying to reduce animal testing is through equivlency. A company may have a medical deivce approved, and then a supplier changes a material. The FDA requires this be retested, however if they can use chemistry to show there is no change in the toxilogical impact of the change, animal testing can be reduced, or avoiding all together.
... and rather than make a third post I'll just use this one.
I know of a dog food company where even though there is extensive research done before the food even came into being (and continues yet today,) even though EVERY batch is tested for everything imaginable under the sun , the animals (of the employees) who are fed the company's food are fondly called their test subjects. Yes, fondly. The founder is very proud of his company, and so are the employees. (Of course the pets are considered family members too and live at home.)
My point is that not all animal testing is shots, make-up, and vivisection.
P.S. And if it weren't for animal testing and greed we would never have had Elk Velvet Antler and King would have left this world sooner. The history of EVA in the U.S. is a dark and shadowy one. The only gain the company hiring the initial research expected to see was into their pockets. They expected it to be another trick to the American public. Little did they know that this Ancient Chinese medicine is one of the most real cures with next to zilch side effects (stomach upset in human females ...and King ) What's the lives of a few dogs eh? We'll test it on them first. Well, the results were surprisingly phenomenal! Great news for the dogs. Every now and then the animals win one back... and they deserve every win they can get.
Last edited by crow_noir; 11-17-2007 at 12:59 AM.
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Let nature guide your actions and you will never have to worry if you did the right thing. ~ crow_noir
The pet world excels where the human world is lacking; sterilization and adoption. ~ crow_noir
Please, if your dog is arthritic look into getting it Elk Velvet Antler. Look up my posts on it, PM me, or look it up on a search engine; but please if you love your dog and want it to live many more years consider this option. I've seen so many posts on here about dogs needlessly suffering. I can't make a new post about EVA every time so this plea is going here. EVA also helps with other ailments such as anemia.
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