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  1. #31
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    Moby's typing is improving!!

    Does Nookie have those attacks after eating? Maybe it's not liver related. Maybe it has something to do with his past or disposition. Do you have any knowledge of his past history? Was Lolly going to jump up behind Nookie and over his head or behind him? Are they just warning growls? Sometimes you can't tell the difference, though. I'm so glad you decided to work with him.

    The ultrasound took Killian all day. We dropped him off at the specialist and had to come back for him in the late afternoon. He was fine after that. Sometimes they want to go ahead and do an ultrasound guided needle biopsy at that time, too. Good luck and please keep us updated. He is such a cutie!

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    You guys would not believe how bad today was. I am still shaking.

    Some of you might remember last year when my shelter had its annual telethon and I worked myself ragged that weekend. Well this weekend was the telethon and it was high, high, high stress between cleaning the shelter during the past couple weeks, getting all of the tv spots planned out, worrying about all the problems that go along with live tv, etc etc. Anyway I was supervising the phone banks again this year (meaning I was on the actual tv set). Yesterday went pretty smoothly and then today happened......

    I had Nookie at work with me both days in a crate behind the desk (he couldn't run loose behind there because we were SO busy, I didn't want him to get stepped on or anything). When I was at the phone banks, I would swap out puppies and kittens for the phone volunteers to hold while answering calls because it looked really cute. I got the (really stupid) idea to go get Nookie and let them hold him so he could be on tv. I cleared it with the shelter manager and my supervisor. I thought it might cause some problems if a lot of people thought he was up for adoption and started calling in for him (that happened with Reece last year). But they both said it would be fine. Then after he'd been at the phone bank for a little bit, a volunteer raised her hand and flagged me over. She told me a woman just called and said that Nookie was her dog and she was on her way over.

    I freaked. F-R-E-A-K-E-D!!!!!!!

    I slipped off the set and ran and told some of the adoption counselors that if that woman came in to play dumb and say they didn't know where the dog was. Then I went back to the tv set but I was stressing so bad, I went to go find the shelter manager. I told her the situation and she kept telling me not to freak out and when the woman got there to just try to appease her until tomorrow because we didn't want some big commotion on our busiest day of the year. She told me we weren't going to hand her over the dog today and I didn't need to worry and it'd be okay. So then I go back on set (I'm not really supposed to be leaving at all) and a short while later I see someone behind the camera flagging me down. They told me that the woman was there.

    So I go up front and she shows me their missing poster. The picture had to be from a loooooong time ago because he looked really young and a lot different. I knew pretty much right away that it was him, especially after reading "LOST DOG WITH LONG TONGUE". She didn't know at this point that I'd been fostering him. I told her the dog was not available to be seen and we were really busy with our telethon, but that she could bring back vet records on Monday to prove the dog has been taken care of. Then it comes out that he's not really her dog, he belongs to a man who's in Japan right now and they were watching the house and dog. Later in the conversation she said the owner was in Florida though. Well where is he, Florida or Japan!?!?!?!?!! I asked her if she was aware of all of his health problems (she said no but later on said yes to somebody else). Granted its not her dog, but his medical conditions are painfully obvious to me after just a week. She's taking care of him for 4 months. Then the woman starts to go psycho yelling and accusing us of lying. My superviser came over and told her to lower her voice or she would be asked to leave. At this point I had to run back to the phone banks. About 10 minutes later, someone came to me and said they were filling in for me because 2 members of the Board and the operations director wanted to talk to me. They pulled me into an empty office and started right away telling me not to freak out. Well that made me start freaking out and crying. They told me that the woman refused to leave and to avoid a scene we needed to show her the dog to confirm that it is him.

    (this is getting long so I'm going to continue it in another post...)
    Alyson
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    and fosters Snickers, Missy, Magic, Merlin, Maya

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    So Judy from the Board of Directors comes with me to get Nookie while the Operations Director takes the people to her office. Judy let me watch from the hall while she carried Nookie in. The three kids that were with the woman said "yup, that's him" and the woman was nodding. Nookie kept turning his head to try to see me and he had no reaction towards them. Then all of a sudden the woman bursts out crying like a lunatic and Judy takes him out of the office. I talked to Judy further and she said we need to find out the exact day we took him in. They lost him on May 25th and we got him in NASTY condition. She said that if it was less than a week that he was lost before we got him, then there was no way in hell that they would get the dog back because that wouldn't be enough time for him to get in such sorry shape. We found his paperwork and we received him on June 1st, exactly one week after he had gotten lost. I honestly don't think he got in that bad condition from just a week. We had to cut this nasty bandana off him that was almost getting embedded into his neck. And we were pulling out hundreds and hundreds of weeds that looked like they'd been in his fur forever. We also had to cut off a good portion of hair.

    So Judy told me we'd have to meet tomorrow (Monday) and figure out if its an abuse or neglect case and take it from there. I started crying again because I have his appointment on Wednesday that I was scared to death of him missing. She kept reassuring me. So I go back to the phone banks looking like crap. My eyes were filled with tears and a lot of the telephone volunteers were over consoling me and got in trouble because they got a live camera shot of the phone banks with a lot of empty seats.

    So we were finally off air for good at 2:30 and I just walked around in a daze. We were so busy that I had to get back to work but I couldn't concentrate. All the volunteers and staff and people who I had no clue who they were kept pulling me aside and asking me if I was okay because they'd heard what happened. Then I heard they told the President of the Board the situation (he's a real .... I can't think of any word that describes him that wouldn't have to be censored). At first he said that I needed to give the dog back right away, but thank GOD the shelter manager talked sense into him.

    So then at like 6:00, the shelter manager grabs me and asks if I have a minute. She told me as far as she's concerned, its BS that we'd have to meet tomorrow to discuss what to do. She said that he's my dog and its my choice and my choice only. She said he would be dead if it wasn't for me and I could tell the "owner" that. I got instant relief. I don't know why no one told me this earlier!!!! But I was so emotionally drained by then that all I could do was tell her thank you about 10000 times.

    So this woman is coming into work tomrorow with her "proof" and I'm going to tell her my honest opinion which is that I've invested a lot mentally, phsically, and financially into this dog. I feel like I can give him much better care and I can't release him to someone who I feel won't give him the medical and emotional attention he needs. Besides that, he is legally mine. We followed the law and kept him 3 days and filed a found animal report. If you have an animal for more than 3 days here, it becomes legally yours.
    Alyson
    Shiloh, Reece, Lolly, Skylar
    and fosters Snickers, Missy, Magic, Merlin, Maya

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    also, his name is Bubba but he doesn't really answer to it. He answers right away to Nookie. This just tells me that he was probably not given any attention.

    Also, I have a STRONG feeling that the owner left him in the backyard and the woman who is watching him just came over to the house and put food and water in his dishes. I just KNOW that this is what happened although its not confirmed. I don't think he's lived in a house for a looooong time... maybe not even his whole life. He sure likes to poop and pee everywhere in my house and I know those people wouldn't let him in.
    Alyson
    Shiloh, Reece, Lolly, Skylar
    and fosters Snickers, Missy, Magic, Merlin, Maya

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    I do think that they need to figure out if it was abuse or neglect anyway, so that if the person whom she said "owns" Nookie comes back and tries to take legal action, you have proof, and legal ownership.

    If that person is real, and really away and left his dog in the care of this person, he needs to know what happened, so it could never happen again. If that person really exists, this would be horrible for him, too. Is there any way of contacting him? (If he really exists, that is.)

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    Well he is supposedly up to date on his vet visits and has records. If she shows me these and I feel like the real guardian will take care of the medical conditions, I'll give him back. But I am very doubtful they will be able to produce vet records.
    Alyson
    Shiloh, Reece, Lolly, Skylar
    and fosters Snickers, Missy, Magic, Merlin, Maya

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    Well, do keep us up-to-date.

    If the actual owner can resume custody, that might be best - that and he never trusts this woman with another animal ever - can you imagine going away, thinking you are doing the right thing by leaving your dog with a pperson, and having all this happen? Every dog owner's nightmare!

    If that can't happen, of course, then I think it's obvious (to everyone) that Nookie belongs to you far more than that woman.

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    I have a gut feeling though that this owner is quite aware of the minimal care the woman is giving Nookie and I think the owner gave him minimum care also. Nookie's personality is that of an outside dog with little socialzation and training. There's a lot of subtle things in his personality that remind me of previous backyard dogs we've gotten in the shelter.
    Alyson
    Shiloh, Reece, Lolly, Skylar
    and fosters Snickers, Missy, Magic, Merlin, Maya

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    Could someone help me find a website that would outline the 3 day law regarding strays in my area (Austin, TX)? I want to print it out and take it to work tomorrow to give the woman.
    Alyson
    Shiloh, Reece, Lolly, Skylar
    and fosters Snickers, Missy, Magic, Merlin, Maya

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    Here's a link I found. I haven't found anything re: the law yet but I'm not familiar with it and there's a bunch of info to wade through.

    Still looking....
    http://ark4pets.com/thln/links.htm

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    Try this one...Animal Cruelty Laws for TX


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    Oh, Aly! I am sorry to hear about this whole mess. And on a busy day like the one you had!

    In Georgia shelters, owners have 72 hours to claim their lost pets. If the owners claim them after those 3 days, they have to go through the adoption processes if the dog is available in the shelter. I am not sure if the rules are the same in Austin. If they are, then there is no way Nookie can go home with them. Their adoption application can be denied!

    You and Nookie will be in my thoughts today. Please post soon about how the meeting went.


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    I'm scared. I dont know how this woman is going to react. I will tell you guys what happened when I get home from work this evening.

    Thanks for the links Tonya.
    Alyson
    Shiloh, Reece, Lolly, Skylar
    and fosters Snickers, Missy, Magic, Merlin, Maya

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    I'll be thinking of you guys today. I hope that everything works out.
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    Good Luck, Aly!

    We, too, are thinkin' of you today!

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