Politics and religion.

**Puckstop31** · 01-28-2011, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Grace

And then there is Michele Bachmann, who would cut veteran benefits.

The Army Times

Speaking as a veteran, I have no problem with this. Technically speaking,I am entitled to some VA disability benefits. I have some hearing loss because of my service. I simply refused to apply for it.

As with all government programs, the VA is not without its share of fraud/waste/abuse. I know of people who get a FULL disability check from the VA, but are still quite capable of having a job and/or still work under the table.

Yeah, I know it sucks. But we have to start SOMEWHERE. We simply can't keep spending like there is no tomorrow.... You won't have to worry about the bills, but I and most certainly my children will.

**Grace** · 01-28-2011, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Puckstop31

Speaking as a veteran, I have no problem with this. Technically speaking,I am entitled to some VA disability benefits. I have some hearing loss because of my service. I simply refused to apply for it.

As with all government programs, the VA is not without its share of fraud/waste/abuse. I know of people who get a FULL disability check from the VA, but are still quite capable of having a job and/or still work under the table.

Yeah, I know it sucks. But we have to start SOMEWHERE. We simply can't keep spending like there is no tomorrow.... You won't have to worry about the bills, but I and most certainly my children will.

I would have no problem with it - IF we then "cut" the wars/conflicts and brought every single service person home; from every single country where they are currently stationed.

You have some hearing loss, and chose not to avail yourself of help. That's all well and good, but what about all those troops from Iraq and Afghanistan - you know, the ones with traumatic brain injuries, loss of limbs? What about them?

**Puckstop31** · 01-28-2011, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Grace

I would have no problem with it - IF we then "cut" the wars/conflicts and brought every single service person home; from every single country where they are currently stationed.

I agree about the conflicts we are fighting now. I do.

But as for pulling ALL our people back form any foreign country.... I know we are losing our superpower status, but for now we still need to be able to project power. Especially when our potential opponents are increasing their ability to project.

You have some hearing loss, and chose not to avail yourself of help. That's all well and good, but what about all those troops from Iraq and Afghanistan - you know, the ones with traumatic brain injuries, loss of limbs? What about them?

These are the people who the VA should focus on. The ones who are truly disabled by their service. I just want to waste to end. My hearing loss does not prevent me from working or living a normal life. But I know that a LOT of vets do take that monthly check...

Grace, I am sure you understand how dependance can utterly ruin a person. Surely in your career you have seen it. I know it FEELS great to help those in need.... If ONLY that was the case. But no... LBJ gave us the "Great Society". HA! LBJ single handedly created GENERATIONS dependant upon their hard working neighbors. GENERATIONS of people raised in single parent homes. But, he also did get those people to vote "D", so its all good.

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What do we cut then? How do we fix the almost impossible level of debt we have? I've always said that whatever the fix is, its going to hurt.

**wombat2u2004** · 02-03-2011, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Puckstop31

As with all government programs, the VA is not without its share of fraud/waste/abuse. I know of people who get a FULL disability check from the VA, but are still quite capable of having a job and/or still work under the table.

The way I see it ????
Veterans are doing it no different than lots of others in your country, they are just trying to live.
A start ???
Stop giving massive aid to other countries. What ??? Is the USA some world Santa Claus ???
They talk about the billions and billions given to other countries by the USA, when we all know that if the situation were reversed, you would receive sweet Fanny Adams from other countries.
And then they talk about cutting down the veterans pensions, veterans who have given their very blood to their country.
Don't make no sense to me.
I think your country needs a bloody good clean out, and I wouldn't be starting with veterans.....no....go higher up the ladder, that's where you'll find the abuse, waste and fraud.

**lizbud** · 02-06-2011, 12:47 PM

Now we have Palins's thoughts on Obama's reaction, or lack of it, to the
unrest in Egypt. Read her comments, they're better than the funny pages.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sarah...ry?id=12851413

**Bonny** · 02-06-2011, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by lizbud

Now we have Palins's thoughts on Obama's reaction, or lack of it, to the
unrest in Egypt. Read her comments, they're better than the funny pages.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sarah...ry?id=12851413

Her second speech is all over the place? I quit listening to it.

Sarah has bought up a good point. Who will be ruling Egypt? Any Ideas?

**Edwina's Secretary** · 02-06-2011, 05:14 PM

What are the chances Ms. Palin can name "those other countries" in the Middle East that she is worried about? What are the chances she can point to Egypt on a map - without coaching?

Would slim to none cover it?

**wombat2u2004** · 02-06-2011, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Bonny

Sarah has bought up a good point. Who will be ruling Egypt? Any Ideas?

Cleopatra ????

**Edwina's Secretary** · 02-06-2011, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Bonny

Sarah has bought up a good point. Who will be ruling Egypt? Any Ideas?

What Ms. Palin does not seem to understand is that it is not the role of the United States government to install rulers in foreign sovereign nations.

The Egyptian people will decide who will lead their country. As I understand it they want someone to lead - not to rule.

**blue** · 02-06-2011, 09:28 PM

Now that Palin has her own thread can we keep this hate in there?

**Bonny** · 02-06-2011, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

What Ms. Palin does not seem to understand is that it is not the role of the United States government to install rulers in foreign sovereign nations.

The Egyptian people will decide who will lead their country. As I understand it they want someone to lead - not to rule.

Is that why we are fighting in Iraq,& Afghanistan? Our country has been either fighting or shelling out money & weapons for decades to our favorite rulers/dictators. It would be nice if we had people who want to lead & not rule in our own country.

**blue** · 02-06-2011, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Bonny

Is that why we are fighting in Iraq,& Afghanistan? Our country has been either fighting or shelling out money & weapons for decades to our favorite rulers/dictators. It would be nice if we had people who want to lead & not rule in our own country.

Its a two sided sword. It keeps us fighting amongst ourselves and keeps the hate alive for Sarah Palin. Its a win win for the Libs.

**Edwina's Secretary** · 02-06-2011, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Bonny

Is that why we are fighting in Iraq,& Afghanistan? Our country has been either fighting or shelling out money & weapons for decades to our favorite rulers/dictators. It would be nice if we had people who want to lead & not rule in our own country.

I could not begin to answer why we are fighting in Iraq especially. Some Freudian complex I believe.

I hope this time we will recognize the difference between being lead and being ruled and make the right choice.