Gun control discussion

[Lady's Human]

Okay, NY, CT and CO have now all passed laws banning possession of high capacity magazines.

Question?

Pvt. Snuffy is driving home from a national guard drill weekend.

He has his web gear because he's taking it home to clean.

In that web gear is his full battle load of 6 30 round magazines.

Does he get arrested for illegal possession when he gets pulled over for speeding? I hope so, after all, we're a nation of laws, not men. That arrest, moreover, means that he is no longer eligible to be in the military as he has committed a firearm crime, and his continued presence in the military would be a violation of the Lautenberg act. Ah well, $200,000 + down the bunny hole in search of political correctness.

Can we immediately arrest EVERY police officer in those states for possession of an illegal magazine? There are no exemptions in NY for police, can't imagine any other law reads differently as they were mainly pushed by the same people.

[Louie and me]

A five year old kills his two year old sister with his very own "Crickett" rifle! The company selling the children's rifles uses bright colors and calls them Crickett and Chipmunk. Aaaaargh Lord give me strength.

[Lady's Human]

A five year old kills his two year old sister with his very own "Crickett" rifle! The company selling the children's rifles uses bright colors and calls them Crickett and Chipmunk. Aaaaargh Lord give me strength.

And if it had been any number of other more common causes of death, it would have gone completely unreported. However, as this fits the agenda, it gets first page press.

If it bleeds, it leads.

[cassiesmom]

Okay, NY, CT and CO have now all passed laws banning possession of high capacity magazines.

Question?

Pvt. Snuffy is driving home from a national guard drill weekend.

He has his web gear because he's taking it home to clean.

In that web gear is his full battle load of 6 30 round magazines.

Does he get arrested for illegal possession when he gets pulled over for speeding? I hope so, after all, we're a nation of laws, not men. That arrest, moreover, means that he is no longer eligible to be in the military as he has committed a firearm crime, and his continued presence in the military would be a violation of the Lautenberg act. Ah well, $200,000 + down the bunny hole in search of political correctness.

Can we immediately arrest EVERY police officer in those states for possession of an illegal magazine? There are no exemptions in NY for police, can't imagine any other law reads differently as they were mainly pushed by the same people.

But he has to have that equipment because he is a National Guardsman. But if he is a gang banger on the south side of Chicago with those six 30-round magazines, then yes, arrest him for illegal possession. And go after whoever he got the magazines from. But the National Guardsman has a responsibility to possess the appropriate equipment issued to him. I think you should only bust the Guardsman if he lets those magazines get into the wrong hands.

[Lady's Human]

But he has to have that equipment because he is a National Guardsman. But if he is a gang banger on the south side of Chicago with those six 30-round magazines, then yes, arrest him for illegal possession. And go after whoever he got the magazines from. But the National Guardsman has a responsibility to possess the appropriate equipment issued to him. I think you should only bust the Guardsman if he lets those magazines get into the wrong hands.

There's no exception in the law for the National Guard. The Guardsman, as the law currently stands, would be arrested for illegal possession with a 1 year sentence for each magazine.

[Edwina's Secretary]

And so it goes...blah..blah..blah...

And our children keep on dying...

But it is okay... as long as it is not your child who dies!

[Lady's Human]

Checking back just to troll, ES?

How nice.


Explain to me how more laws (endangering a child is already illegal) would fix the latest headline? They wouldn't, more laws in fact would do nothing, but it would allow the politicians to fleece the rubes for another term in office, as they DID something. They didn't do anything substantial, but they did SOMETHING, and that's all that counts, isn't it?

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

The road to the complete nanny state is paved with the same material, and in both cases the pavement stinks of bovine excrement.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Whatever... I came back because some people...I am not sure if you are familiar with the concept of "people" ...wanted to celebrate my cats today. I honor them as they honor Edwina and Eddie.

You...you are still...apparently...fighting your war to justify your sad...sad..need to kill. Peace baby...peace.

[Lady's Human]

Justify my need to kill?

Are you off your meds? WTH?

[Alysser]

Whatever... I came back because some people...I am not sure if you are familiar with the concept of "people" ...wanted to celebrate my cats today. I honor them as they honor Edwina and Eddie.

You...you are still...apparently...fighting your war to justify your sad...sad..need to kill. Peace baby...peace.

Did you honestly just say that? His need to kill? Really?? Really??

Why is there not a emi-con of someone banging their head against a wall?

Yep, sure, every single person who doesn't support a gun ban is all for killing. Yep, you really got it right.

This thread reminds me of a girl in my speech class who felt the need to tell someone after my demo speech on archery (ARCHERY) that she didn't understand the need for blood sports? What? Sureeee, bet that hay bales bleeding out real bad.

[RICHARD]

Checking back just to troll, ES?

How nice.


Explain to me how more laws (endangering a child is already illegal) would fix the latest headline? They wouldn't, more laws in fact would do nothing, but it would allow the politicians to fleece the rubes for another term in office, as they DID something. They didn't do anything substantial, but they did SOMETHING, and that's all that counts, isn't it?

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

The road to the complete nanny state is paved with the same material, and in both cases the pavement stinks of bovine excrement.

LOL,

The people who want the government to background check are the same people who fear Kroger shopper cards because they collect info on what we buy when we shop.

(Have you ever driven in CA? Those hellish roads are in need of paving...)

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The town hall meetings where the attendees are asking the politicos about their voting habits are pretty interesting.

If they don't answer the question in one meeting, what makes them think that they will get an answer the next time?

[RICHARD]

WTH, he did pass a background check.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow...141430862.html

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Why make it a "universal" background check, start with planet earth.....

[cassiesmom]

I heard on the news tonight (on WBBM-AM radio for those of you in the Chicago area) that the NRA would like to give away guns in Chicago and other big cities affected by crime. Their rationale is that if more citizens were armed, crime would decrease. I don't know about other cities, but in Chicago I can just see those guns quickly falling into the hands of people who shouldn't have them. Giving more people guns is NOT likely to decrease crime, at least not in this town. It's going to take more police, more programs to strengthen families and keep kids out of gangs, and more opportunities for teenagers to have a life other than early parenting, welfare, prison or early death.

[Lady's Human]

I heard on the news tonight (on WBBM-AM radio for those of you in the Chicago area) that the NRA would like to give away guns in Chicago and other big cities affected by crime. Their rationale is that if more citizens were armed, crime would decrease. I don't know about other cities, but in Chicago I can just see those guns quickly falling into the hands of people who shouldn't have them. Giving more people guns is NOT likely to decrease crime, at least not in this town. It's going to take more police, more programs to strengthen families and keep kids out of gangs, and more opportunities for teenagers to have a life other than early parenting, welfare, prison or early death.

Sadly, that isn't going to happen,, because it takes more than a sound bite to actually fix social problems. Nothing proposed by either side is going to fix Chicago, or any other urban issues, for that matter.