Mars Inc in ANIMAL TEST HORROR

[Lady's Human]

I gave a quick glance to the list, and it still lists Febreeze as being toxic to animals, despite this article from the ASPCA: http://www.aspca.org/site/News2?page...rticle&id=8352

At best it is outdated.

[smokey the elder]

I promised myself I'd stay out of this debate, but here goes.

In spite of propaganda to the contrary, alternatives to animal testing are sort of a "holy grail" for pharma. They would like nothing more than to be able to culture a load of cells, dump some drug in them, and see how they respond, and have it mean something in terms of response in the whole organism (ie human being.)

There is a new technique being looked at called "microdosing" in which a very small amount of drug is given to a healthy person, and tests are done on the blood and urine to look at the metabolites. The technique requires very sensitive testing equipment. It shows much promise, but has to be validated, which means that the results have to be demonstrated to be "real".

The pharma industry, and even more importantly, the FDA, EMEA and other regulatory bodies are very conservative. It will be many years before we even know if microdosing has potential or is another dead end.

Meanwhile, while animal testing is done, the places that do it are obligated to care for the animals in as humane a manner is possible.

[lizbud]

It was once common knowledge that the sun revolved around the
earth and took many years to prove otherwise. Scientists are notorious
for moving slowly with any change in held beliefs.

[TamanduaGirl]

I gave a quick glance to the list, and it still lists Febreeze as being toxic to animals,

Febreeze is not on that list(that I see) and if it was it's not about if it's toxic or not but if it was tested on animals. It must have been tested on them to prove it was safe to use around them, even if not on the list. A quick google of febreeze and animal testing shows they do test their air fresheners on animals.

[Miss Z]

It was once common knowledge that the sun revolved around the
earth and took many years to prove otherwise. Scientists are notorious
for moving slowly with any change in held beliefs.

Very well said! I agree with all your posts so far 100%.

[Catlady711]

Has anyone ever thought about how pet vaccines and medicines come to be approved or safe to use on our pets in the first place?

While I don't approve of needless testing that results in pain and death of animals, I certainly don't want a vet to use a vaccine or medicine that has not been proven to work or even be safe to use on my pet.