Gun control discussion

[Lady's Human]

I'm not afraid of people.

I have firearms for the same reason I have a chainsaw, a tiller, a generator, an axe (or 3) and many other tools. Situational preparation. It's not fear, it's logic.

[RICHARD]

I'm not afraid of people.

I have firearms for the same reason I have a chainsaw, a tiller, a generator, an axe (or 3) and many other tools. Situational preparation. It's not fear, it's logic.

oh, but you do not mention the length of the chainsaw blade.


Why do we need an 18 inch blade when a 14 incher will do?

[Catty1]

RICHARD, for some reason I thought you might like this...

[RICHARD]

RICHARD, for some reason I thought you might like this...

I guess I am the Tan Version of the AWM!!!


Thanks.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I'm not afraid of people.

I have firearms for the same reason I have a chainsaw, a tiller, a generator, an axe (or 3) and many other tools. Situational preparation. It's not fear, it's logic.

So let's see. It's logic. Trees need trimming....the garden needs tilling...power sometimes goes out....people need shooting?

Sorry...as Spock would say..."Captain...that is not logical!"

[Lady's Human]

So let's see. It's logic. Trees need trimming....the garden needs tilling...power sometimes goes out....people need shooting?

Sorry...as Spock would say..."Captain...that is not logical!"

It's completely logical when the sheriff is 1/2 hour away, or when animal control's reaction to a report of a dangerous animal in the area is "You've got a rifle, don't you?".

And yes, sometimes people need shooting.

[chocolatepuppy]

It's completely logical when the sheriff is 1/2 hour away, or when animal control's reaction to a report of a dangerous animal in the area is "You've got a rifle, don't you?".

And yes, sometimes people need shooting.

Wow LH, it sounds like you live in my neighborhood. And over the years how many times has a law officer told someone, "if you shoot someone, drag them in the house"

Sometimes, you have to be the one to save yourself.

[Edwina's Secretary]

It's completely logical when the sheriff is 1/2 hour away, or when animal control's reaction to a report of a dangerous animal in the area is "You've got a rifle, don't you?".

And yes, sometimes people need shooting.

Sorry. I grew up in the country where we could not see the closest neighbor. I lived in the city of Chicago for over 20 years. Lived in Guadalajara for two years.

Never, not once, not one single time, was I so afraid that I felt the need to be ready to kill someone.

Logic has nothing to do with it.

[pomtzu]

Sorry. I grew up in the country where we could not see the closest neighbor. I lived in the city of Chicago for over 20 years. Lived in Guadalajara for two years.

Never, not once, not one single time, was I so afraid that I felt the need to be ready to kill someone.

Logic has nothing to do with it.

But have you ever been home - alone or otherwise - when someone was trying to break into your house?

I'm not for or against a gun for personal protection and I don't personally own one. And since I indeed was home when someone was trying to break in, and I live in a rural area with only the state police at our disposal and figuring about an hour to get here once called, then I would have been on the pro-gun side at that time. Fortunately, the rest of the family was home and my son took care of the situation without any weapon or assault, and it got reported to the state police. If I lived alone 24/7, then I probably would take steps to assure that I was as safe as possible, and if it included owning a gun (after gun safety and operating courses), then I most likely would. I don't "like" them, but I have a healthy respect for them - taught to me by my ex who was in law enforcement for the majority of his working days, and was a Marine and weapons instructor at The Basic School in Quantico, VA in his military days.

[mon]

There is no right or wrong on this subject in my opinion. I do believe that violence of any kind is wrong.

[Edwina's Secretary]

But have you ever been home - alone or otherwise - when someone was trying to break into your house?

I'm not for or against a gun for personal protection and I don't personally own one. And since I indeed was home when someone was trying to break in, and I live in a rural area with only the state police at our disposal and figuring about an hour to get here once called, then I would have been on the pro-gun side at that time. Fortunately, the rest of the family was home and my son took care of the situation without any weapon or assault, and it got reported to the state police. If I lived alone 24/7, then I probably would take steps to assure that I was as safe as possible, and if it included owning a gun (after gun safety and operating courses), then I most likely would. I don't "like" them, but I have a healthy respect for them - taught to me by my ex who was in law enforcement for the majority of his working days, and was a Marine and weapons instructor at The Basic School in Quantico, VA in his military days.

Well...let's see. My apartment was burglarized...the police think while I slept. I lived alone - single female for over 20 years. Car was stolen. Oh! And I was mugged outside the Walgreen's. Still...never felt the need for the "option" that enabled me to kill.

Make no mistake. That is what a gun is. The option to kill. The means to kill. A "tool" that has no purpose except to kill.

I check my oil...I prepare my vehicle...I do all that stuff. But prepare to kill?? No thanks.

LH - you claim

I have a complete disconnect because I deride the very basic viewpoint of being prepared as fear

(even though you are the one who introduced fear to the discussion...) What will it take to help you see the "other side?" You know...to connect to the light?

Oddly enough...I remember this commandment..."thou shall not kill..." and I don't remember any qualifiers! (Such as...unless you fear people wearing hooded sweatershirts in the rain....or unless the other people have their music too loudd...or unless...) But then...perhaps the rules have changed since my education????

[Lady's Human]

The commandment "thou shall not kill" is a mistranslation. That original text translates to something along the lines of don't kill innocents.

Were the commandment as you stated accurately translated into the KJV (which it wasn't) no follower of Joshua could have been following Mosiac law. Being that they were following orders from the man upstairs, however........

Nice try, I'll give you an 8 for effort, regardless of the over simplification of the argument.

As to seeing the other side of the argument, I see it, but reject the logic behind it. Relying on someone else to take care of issues just isn't something I'm inclined to do, particularly when the clean up crew is 1/2 hour away.

Congratulations on the record of being a victim, not sure how it's material ot this discussion, but it does clearly show you as someone who's more prone to relying on others for your security. After the first incident I'd have done something to prevent the others, but you're obviously of a different mindset.

[Lady's Human]

Sorry. I grew up in the country where we could not see the closest neighbor. I lived in the city of Chicago for over 20 years. Lived in Guadalajara for two years.

Never, not once, not one single time, was I so afraid that I felt the need to be ready to kill someone.

Logic has nothing to do with it.

There's a complete disconnect, and you will never understand an opposing point of view as long as you deride the very basic viewpoint of being prepared as fear.

I assure you it's been a very, very long time since I've feared another human.

To illustrate it in another way, some people carry a AAA card, others carry tools, a couple of critical spares, and make sure they do a maintenance check on their vehicles before leaving on a trip. Guess which option I take?