I'm just wondering whats your thought on chaining a dog?

[Marty]

My dogs have shelter, fresh water, food and shade... and don't forget love daily so whats the big problem?









My dogs are not neglected in any way... they don't live in the mud and are very much loved every day, dogs have lived on a chain for 100's of years with no problem till the AR "animals rights nuts " got involved LOL

[Marty]

Few more pics...









I hope your not gonning to respond with negativity because it won't happen

[luvofallhorses]

Well I don't like it, but I know you take AWESOME care of your APBTs and do everything for them and still they are a part of your family, Marty. What I don't like is people who get a dog, throw it in the back-yard and chain the dog with no proper shelter, food, or water and no attention what-so-ever. AND I know that's not you! Your pups are beautiful BTW - I LOVE Lil' Bit.. she has always been a favorite of mine.

[Marty]

I know neglect goes on... but not on my watch!

I have to much money/time invested in my dogs, hell there my kids I never had

[Karen]

As in most things, there's a good way and a wrong way. I have always felt sad for dogs that were stuck on chains, unloved and neglected. Yours are obviously neither, and look happy and healthy! We would let our dog out on a chain in the yard, and the chain always reached the door, so they could come in when they wanted. We only ever had one at a time, though, so dog on dog aggression was never an issue.

[Freedom]

I had to laugh at that first picture. While you are hugging and playing with one dog (sorry I don't know their names by sight yet), there is another one in the back just sitting waiting patiently for you to get to him / her.

SITTING WAITING PATIENTLY? Goodness, I just LOOK at one of mine and the rest are up and rushing to me, ha haaa. Patience is not in their vocabulary, here.

[Indigo Bully Connection]

Nevermind... If the shoe fits, wear it.

[MonicanHonda]

Alright, after reading all of the pages on the forum threads Marty posted... I have come to the conclusion that...

Yes, he does answer vaguely to annoy people and then they start fighting with EACH OTHER and it blows up into big fights. Apparently, they talk about dog fighting on his forum. They also laugh about getting everyone on other forum websites to fight...

I gave the benefit of the doubt that you guys were really trying to educate people about pitbulls, but seeing two forums blow up over pitbulls because of something ONE person... the SAME person, wrote and how he writes it...

someone's up to no good.

Oh, and also the fact that he doesn't answer questions... how can you educate if you don't open up and share your information... ??? We are open to learning... believe me... but if someone isn't sharing the information that is needed to learn... how do we learn? I usually have a whole text book of information in my classes that I learn from. And powerpoints. And I ask questions, and they get answered.

And Blue, why are you standing for this guy when you kept telling him that he had a stick somewhere in one of his body cavities on the other website???? (Not trying to argue here, but I'm just asking because I want to know if he posted somewhere else and it made more sense or not)

[MonicanHonda]

So, I'm going to try and rephrase a question I have from Anna's post... and one you never answered on the forum thread you posted...

My previous dalmatian had excellent definition in her hind quarters... they have very strong legs, hence why they can run for miles. She acquired these amazing muscles (because she didn't have them when I had her) by running her with me on my bike every day for a very long time.

Yes, genetics has something to do with it... but...

I know that you cannot get a dog that looks like that from genetics. How, exactly, do you get your dogs in amazing shape for showing them?

[Grace]

Alright, after reading all of the pages on the forum threads Marty posted... I have come to the conclusion that...

Yes, he does answer vaguely to annoy people and then they start fighting with EACH OTHER and it blows up into big fights. Apparently, they talk about dog fighting on his forum. They also laugh about getting everyone on other forum websites to fight...

I gave the benefit of the doubt that you guys were really trying to educate people about pitbulls, but seeing two forums blow up over pitbulls because of something ONE person... the SAME person, wrote and how he writes it...

someone's up to no good.

Oh, and also the fact that he doesn't answer questions... how can you educate if you don't open up and share your information... ??? We are open to learning... believe me... but if someone isn't sharing the information that is needed to learn... how do we learn? I usually have a whole text book of information in my classes that I learn from. And powerpoints. And I ask questions, and they get answered.

And Blue, why are you standing for this guy when you kept telling him that he had a stick somewhere in one of his body cavities on the other website???? (Not trying to argue here, but I'm just asking because I want to know if he posted somewhere else and it made more sense or not)

Thanks for doing the research, Monica. Find that one paragraph very interesting.

[blue]

And Blue, why are you standing for this guy when you kept telling him that he had a stick somewhere in one of his body cavities on the other website???? (Not trying to argue here, but I'm just asking because I want to know if he posted somewhere else and it made more sense or not)

This thread is about chaining, and from what Ive seen Marty is doing it properly and correctly, not what Chazhound feels about him or his dogs.

Im banned from Chazhound so it makes searching over their imposible, but if I remember right, the way Marty and others from Game-Dog where treated I dont blame him or them for being vague in their answers.

[Aidan]

Yea, I have read a lot of threads from over there where Marty was involved and while he was educating and showing he did the best for his dogs, a lot of people still had other ideas and did not present them in the best ways.

[Marty]

Confrontational? yes I am and its because I've done this same thing for many yrs with the same type of forum's and member's as this one, can you say foresight?...

Thank you LH for your posts. I agree 100+%.

I said I wasn't going to publically post in response to any other post here, and in keeping with that, I sent a PM to one of the OP's friends, explaining in a rational manner, why I, and a lot of others, see him as confrontational. I shouldn't have wasted my time and energy, because in the end, I was told that I was rude and bashing the OP. I still have the PM's, and would be glad to forward them to anyone who might want to view the conversation, then you can tell me if I was rude and a basher.

This OP started out looking for issues in his Introduction. He admittedly "opened a can of worms", and when no one took the bait, he started this tread with the same intention. Not a lot of folks read Intros - thus the lack of response - IMO of course. So he starts a new thread (same subject) here - makes it a one sentence post ending with "so what's the big problem?" HUH????? Nobody had a chance to even say if it was a problem, since he chose to make it one on his own, and in only one sentence. Is it any wonder that people view him as confrontational? If someone says to me "so what's the big problem?", or "have you got a problem with that?", and the like, then I know "words" will probably follow.

I have nothing against the OP, his dogs, his friends, etc. Perhaps if he would change his approach and soften up just a little, people might see him in a different light. I'm not saying to be sweet and syrupy, but tone it down a notch or two. Again - this is my opinion for what it's worth.

So you thought you would get some different answer's from my friend's?

Why not come to me?

So, I'm going to try and rephrase a question I have from Anna's post... and one you never answered on the forum thread you posted...

My previous dalmatian had excellent definition in her hind quarters... they have very strong legs, hence why they can run for miles. She acquired these amazing muscles (because she didn't have them when I had her) by running her with me on my bike every day for a very long time.

Yes, genetics has something to do with it... but...

I know that you cannot get a dog that looks like that from genetics. How, exactly, do you get your dogs in amazing shape for showing them?

dalmatian and APBT's are two different breeds, Lilbit is 100% natural nothing but love and a bed to sleep on all day long, my dogs are taken off the chain and shown in ADBA conformaition show's and win Best of show and Best of opposite...





Brother and sister winning both Best in show and best of opposite in a ADBA point show....

Marty;2223864:How about you come and spend the day with us and see what we do all day long I'm in Ga and thats not to far away >>>>>>

Well I live out in CA. so how about indulging me and answering Anna's questions. You said you wanted to educate us! Now I am curious about your dogs. Do you have a web site that explains about you, your training and breeding program etc.? I have seen plenty of fabulous pics.

Check out Game-dog.com, Pitbull-chat.com

Why not just Google "Marty's lilbit" were known all over the world LOL

Game-dog.com is more geared to the history of the breed and yes it lintels the talk of dog fighting... do I agree with dog fighting? heck no!

If everyone had thoroughly read LH's posts, they just might have gotten a clue!

Why are you derailing my post with what went on in another post?

This thread is about chaining dogs and what pet owners think about it!!!

Mod's please delete off topic post's

He most likely doesn't. I don't think someone goes around flaunting that. But they do talk about it on his website. People brought it up on the forum he posted. You're right, I only glanced at his game dogs website. I did see stuff about dog fighting, but did not look into it. And just because I said they TALK about it... doesn't mean I meant that he did it. *Edited to add this*

As for the bugs... they REALLY creep me out. Like... I'm a BABY when it comes to spiders. I'm getting BETTER, but big ones still creep me out Eww eww eww.

I only glanced at his game dogs website. I did see stuff about dog fighting, but did not look into it.So you took a glance and your going to condemn me to hell cause we talk about the history of the breed?

I'm a very busy man so if I don't get right back to you don't think nothing of it

[pomtzu]

Nevermind... If the shoe fits, wear it.

So why did you delete what you originally posted?

[Indigo Bully Connection]

I didn't want to add fuel to the fire Pomp. I lost my temper and what I said wasn't worth the time it took to type to be honest with you. It's not my style to contribute to these kinds of posts, but i listened to my inner bad side lol. If anyone has any questions on APBTs or Am Bullies in general, we can start another thread.