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    Ferret -Kidney Failure?

    My 6 year old female ferret "Coco" has been hospitalized for kidney failure
    (?). The doctors have been treating her with IV fluids and medication. She
    has been in the hospital since November 16th, 2002 and they have been taking
    blood tests and urinalysis as well as x-rays. She went from a blood urea
    nitrogen (BUN) level of 310 to 132 to then up to 250. They will have to
    take another blood test again to see if she improves. Any advice you have
    for me would be appreciated.

    11/21/02 10:46pm
    Today's visit was very upsetting. She was moved from ICU to another room
    where she was not incubated nor was she on IV fluids. I was told by the
    receptionist after repeated questioning (because no one including the doctor
    or the vet tech would come to speak with me) regarding why she was not on IV
    fluids. Her response was that they had given her a bath at 4:30pm and that
    they were waiting for her to dry. That was 5 hours ago. Should a sick animal
    be stressed even more by giving it a bath? I understand she needs to be
    clean but I just visited her on Tuesday and she looked fine. Why was an ICU
    patient with serious toxic level in her blood not put back on IV drip right
    away? Will this affect the blood test that was taken that night? Will it be
    accurate? I went away from the Tuesday's (11/19/02) visit very happy and
    upbeat but tonight's visit was very upsetting. I understand we were there 10
    minutes before 10pm (due to traffic and bad weather) but I just wanted
    someone to clarify why she was not on IV fluids because that was the sole
    reason why she was there to be treated for. We are spending thousands of
    dollars and no one person would speak with us, just for a little bit to
    clarify something for us, because visiting hours were over at 10pm. So far,
    she's been hospitalized since last Saturday (5 days ago) and we have not
    gotten any clear answers on what exactly her illness is. If she is dying, I
    would rather have her die at home or be more comfortable at home. I
    mentioned about the heat and Coco not being in an incubator and the
    receptionist just asked someone in there to turn it on at that moment. I
    don't know if she is still being force fed because she still seems awfully
    skinny? I don't know if they are keeping track of how much food she is
    eating or if she is eating at all (because don't ferrets tend to eat the
    food they are familiar with because of the smell that's been imprinted in
    their brain at a young age) and why are they feeding her cat food (canned
    and solid)? I normally feed her Totally Ferret Food. Is that okay? From the
    visit on Tuesday, she looked good. But from Thursday's visit, she looked
    sickly to me, like she's deteriorated. Again, why was she not put on IV
    fluids right away? When I spoke with doctor on 11/17 Sunday, he said the blood
    test looked serious (off the chart) and he stressed that it was a serious
    condition and that it doesn't look very good. And all the doctors said they
    were trying very hard to get her kidneys working again and that it was very
    important to flush out the high level of toxins in her body so why wasn't she put on IV fluids right away? Her BUN level went from 310 on 11/17 to 132 on 11/19 then back up to 250 on 11/21. Another blood test will be taken tonight.

    Thank you kindly for your help!
    Indiegurrl

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    Hey ferret folks, any experience with this?

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    How long has your vet treated ferrets? There are so many vets that are completely unknowledgable about ferrets, but try to treat them anyway. I can't believe they gave her a bath. Completely unneeded. Even if she was so sick that she went to the bathroom on herself, they could've used something like baby wipes to clean her up. Stressing an already very ill animal out with a bath is lunacy to me.

    What are these blood tests testing for? You said the vet said the blood tests were off the chart. What was it in the blood that was testing off the chart. If they can't give you any answers, they need to let her go home with you. Personally if it was me, I'd make sure she was stable and start calling around for a more experienced vet to take her to. I'd also e-mail Dr. Bruce Williams with your entire post about how your fuzzy is doing and what this vet has done. Dr. Williams is a very ferret knowledgable vet and lectures at many ferret events. He should be able to shed some light on your fuzzy's condition.

    Dr. Williams email:
    Bruce Williams DVM
    [email protected]

    Check out www.ferretcentral.org they have great information. Look under resources at all the health pages. Here's a list of New York vets reccommended:
    Fine Animal Hosp
    Listing needs reverification
    701 Bedford Road
    Bedford Hills
    NY
    10507
    914-666-8061

    Brockport Animal Hosp
    Listing needs reverification
    6352 Brockport-Spencerport Rd
    Brockport
    NY
    14420
    716-637-6190

    Broadway Animal Hosp of Riverdale
    Dr. Scott Luckow
    5664 Broadway
    Bronx
    NY
    10463
    718-543-5600

    Fifth Avenue Veterinary Hospital
    Dr. Roy J. Appel
    9102 5th Ave
    Brooklyn
    NY
    11209
    718-748-1066

    Burnt Hills Animal Hospital
    Dr Ferrell
    Goode St
    Burnt Hills
    NY
    11???
    518-399-5213

    West Hills Animal Hospital
    Dr. Heidi Hoefer
    800 West Jericho Tpke
    Huntington
    NY
    11???
    516-351-6116
    [email protected]
    http://home.att.net/~hhoefer

    All Creatures Vet Clinic
    Gelfand
    733 West Park Ave
    Long Beach
    NY
    11561
    516-432-2946

    St. Mark's Vet
    Listing needs reverification
    3148 East 9th St
    Manhattan
    NY
    10002
    212-477-2688

    Massapequa Hosp for Animals
    Paul LaPorta
    4186 Sunrise Hwy
    Massapequa
    NY
    11758
    516-798-8700

    Massapequa Pet Vet
    Dr. Ned Horowitz and Dr. Stephanie Ulrich
    5404 Merrick Road
    Massapequa
    NY
    11758
    516-797-8387

    East Bay Veterinary Hospital
    Dr. Gary Selmonsky
    2314 Merrick Rd., Suite 6
    Merrick
    NY
    11566
    516-623-6226

    Monroe Animal Hospital
    Lonnie Kasman, DVM
    427 Rt. 17M
    Monroe
    NY
    10950
    914-782-8621
    [email protected]

    New Hyde Park Animal Hospital
    David Kolins
    615 Jericho Turnpike
    New Hyde Park
    NY
    11040
    516-352-7007

    Pearl River animal Hosp
    Loreen Zepf
    19 S. Rt. 304
    Pearl River
    NY
    10965
    914-735-3213
    [email protected]

    Jefferson Animal Hospital
    Jeff & Brian Rose, DVM
    606 Patchogue Rd (Rte 112)
    Port Jefferson Station
    NY
    11776
    516-473-0415

    [email protected]

    Companion Animal Hospital
    Listing needs reverification
    2800 West Henrietta Rd
    Rochester
    NY
    14623
    716-424-2900

    Union Street Bird Clinic
    Dr Hartman
    Union Ave.
    Schenectady
    NY
    11???
    518-370-3736

    Smithtown Village Animal Hosp
    Listing needs reverification
    171 W. Main St
    Smithtown
    NY
    11???
    516-265-7170

    Island Bird,Cat, & Dog Vet Group
    Dr. Frank A. Scandaglia
    943 Manor Road
    Staten Island
    NY
    10314
    718-370-9472
    [email protected]

    Animal Doctor's Clinic
    Listing needs reverification
    258 Warren St
    Uniondale
    NY
    11553
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    Central vet Assoc
    Listing needs reverification
    73 W. Merrick Rd
    Valley Stream
    NY
    1????
    718-525-5454

    Sunrise Veterinary Group
    521 Sunrise Hwy.
    West Islip
    NY
    11795
    631-661-5380

    Nassau Animal Emergency Group, P.C.

    740 Old Country Road
    Westbury

    NY
    11590
    516-333-6262

    Bond Animal Hosp
    Douglas G. Aspros, D.V.M.
    Geoffrey I. McKenzie, D.V.M.
    250 Central Ave
    White Plains
    NY
    10606
    914-949-8860
    [email protected]
    www.animalhealthchannel.com/bondanimalhospital





    Totally Ferret is an excellent food. You also might want to try mixing your fuzzy's Totaly Ferret with another high quality ferret food. Ferrets tend to imprint upon sertain foods...if the food your feeding should become unavailable or the manufacturer changes it, your fuzzy may refuse to eat a new food. I'd start by mixing in a little bit of a new food, and then gradually increase a new food as she gets used to it. I feed my 5 a mix of Superior Choice(available only at theferretstore.com), Zupreem, Mazuri, and Premium Edge kitten(this kitten food exactly like the higher priced Path Valley ferret food down to the way ingredients are listed, but soo much cheaper). Other good foods are 8 in 1 Ultimate(NOT the Ultra), Marshall's, Maxximum Nutrition kitten(only use high quality kitten foods and Maxx kitten is made by Iams and only available at Walmart) Path Valley, Sheppard & Greene, Eukanuba kitten etc..

    Basically when looking for a good food, it shoud be high in protein(28 to 38%) and high in fat(18 to 25%) and the first 3 to 5 ingredients should be meat based.

    I can't think of anything else right now. If you have any questions, I'll try to answer as best I can. Please e-mail Dr. Williams. He should be able to help. Good Luck.


    Tiff and the ever expanding krewe
    Scout, Gigi, & Bixby -the kitties
    Rory, Lola, Jax, Max, & Lulu -the ferrets

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    possible kidney failure

    She has been hospitalized since last Saturday, 11/16th. The blood test and urinalysis are testing whether or not her kidney is actually working or not. They can't tell me if she has had a kidney failure or not. This will be the 4th CBC chemistry and urinalysis, along with all the other tests they've done (i.e. x-ray plus radiologist consult). I have emailed Dr. Bruce Williams and am patiently waiting for his reply. I have also begun looking into other ferret specialists in town. Thanks for your help and support!
    Indiegurrl

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    Please keep us infomed, I hope your little ferret gets better really soon.

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    oops forgot to add...
    even though I made food suggestions, you're probably not going to want to make any changes to her diet until she is all better. Any change in diet and environment is stressful for them...that's how my Max got sick when he was dumped at the SPCA before I adopted him.

    I hope you get some answers soon. None of my fuzzies have ever been really sick, so while I do know some of the basics on adrenal and insulinoma...I don't know that much about ferret illnesses. Positive healing thoughts for your fuzzy.
    Last edited by Chinadoll; 11-22-2002 at 02:12 PM.


    Tiff and the ever expanding krewe
    Scout, Gigi, & Bixby -the kitties
    Rory, Lola, Jax, Max, & Lulu -the ferrets

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    Something else you can do is post what you have on theferretstore.com's ferret forum. Many many ferret knowledagble people post there and if they don't know they should be able to pint you in the right direction.

    http://www.neeps.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ult...ubb=forum&f=10


    Tiff and the ever expanding krewe
    Scout, Gigi, & Bixby -the kitties
    Rory, Lola, Jax, Max, & Lulu -the ferrets

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    ferretstore.com forum

    I have also posted my concerns on ferretstore.com forum. Thanks!
    Indiegurrl

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    Urgent need of advice for meeting with vet

    I will be meeting with the doctor tonight. I have many concerns I would like him to answer to. If you can give me any other pertinent questions to ask, I will look over all my daily journal entries, notes, and questions before my meeting with him. I would like to know how I should respond if all the doctor does is try to cover up for the benefit of the hospital. I spoke with another doctor today and addressed my concerns regarding why she was taken out of ICU and not incubated, and she couldn't answer my questions. She tried to say that the cage was heated but when I touched the cage that night, it was cold and someone came in to turn it on at that moment. About the bath, the doctor tried to cover up the bath totally and said it was not written in her chart that a bath was given and that she obviously tried to chew off her IV so they had to take it off. How can an elderly ferret chew off the bandage? I find that impossible! We have also spoken with Dr. Ned and he has been very helpful and is willing to look at her file and test results. I tried all afternoon to get the hospital to fax her records to me and what they said was it will take 7-10 days to process. They said if it was going to a vet, they will do it today but so far, the the vets I've been referred to have not received the faxes. I will go there tonight and request all her files in person.
    Indiegurrl

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    Good luck with this, they don't sound like good vets from what you said. Hope you can get her records, and get the help she needs, poor girl! Give her a snuggle for me, if you can, okay?

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    Coco's home sweet home

    I brought Coco home from the hospital today. Her 4th blood test indicated that her blood urea nitrogen (BUN) level was still extremely high at 240. The clinical signs say otherwise. She is alert, curious, eating, drinking, defacating, and urinating as usual. The doctor said it's amazing she is still alive and showing such good signs. With that high amount of toxins in her body, she should be vomiting and seizuring but that's not the case. I will be taking care of her at home by giving her 25-50mL of subcutaneous fluids once a day, 1/4 cc of Amphogel twice daily and she will be eating her regular food (Totally Ferret active and geriatric) plus on an EN diet. I think she is very happy to be home, smelling familiar smells. Her lil' bro Scout is happy and curious to have her home as well. I will try to make her life as happy and comfortable as I can. I think she's such a strong girl to be holding on this long. If I see her suffering or showing any signs of pain, I will say goodbye to her. She has such a strong will to live. Thank you all for your support and prayers. Right now she is sleeping on my bed, with Scout nearby. Sweet dreams!
    Indiegurrl

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