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    I have another crazy question: Why didn't the doctor just start with the Propofol and forget the other mega doses of drugs? He knew the Propofol would knock him out. We will probably never know the answer to this question.


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    I have another crazy question: Why didn't the doctor just start with the Propofol and forget the other mega doses of drugs? He knew the Propofol would knock him out. We will probably never know the answer to this question
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    Apparently the doctor was trying to wean MJ off of the Propofol. He was not comfortable using this drug to induce sleep. The other drug cocktail was his way of getting away from the Propofol. His big mistake was not considering the other drugs, he had already given MJ when he realized they were not giving MJ the sleep he needed. The Propofol on top of the other drug cocktail would have been to much for anybody. The doctor was negligent by giving the Propofol after the other drugs were not effective.

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    If I read it, it must be true.

    I suspect we will never know the real answers about MJ.

    Don't forget the guy ALSO had an eating disorder. He was underweight, at best, so the drugs he was given to sleep would impact differently than if he had been eating.... There are so many MAYBE's and WHAT IF's about him.

    If I never hear another word about this, I would be happy. And here I am posting about it anyway! Go figure.

    Rest in peace Michael. Rest in peace. Finally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kokopup View Post
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    Apparently the doctor was trying to wean MJ off of the Propofol. He was not comfortable using this drug to induce sleep. The other drug cocktail was his way of getting away from the Propofol. His big mistake was not considering the other drugs, he had already given MJ when he realized they were not giving MJ the sleep he needed. The Propofol on top of the other drug cocktail would have been to much for anybody. The doctor was negligent by giving the Propofol after the other drugs were not effective.
    Thanks. This makes sense. I wonder if MJ was so demanding, he decided to give into him. Being a doctor and a professional, he should have known to stop and endure an argument, no matter what.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy and Delilah View Post
    Being a doctor and a professional, he should have known to stop and endure an argument, no matter what.
    And give up the promise of those big bucks?? I don't think so, since there would have been another unscrupulous doctor just waiting to take his place. It appears that he was just digging the grave a little deeper.

    This doctor was a real quack from what is being reported. Supposedly he was making phone calls to try to destroy/cover up evidence, while MJ lay dead or dying, and it was about 45 minutes before 911 was ever called. If that's not a case of negligent homicide, then I don't know what is.
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    Was this guy so stupid he never thought he might go to jail? All the money in the world wouldn't help him--well, in some cases it might.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy and Delilah View Post
    Was this guy so stupid he never thought he might go to jail? All the money in the world wouldn't help him--well, in some cases it might.
    I kind of think it was his intention to keep MJ strung out as long as he possibly could, in order to reap the rewards that MJ would give to him - in the form of mega bucks for mega drugs. I seriously doubt that he ever meant to kill MJ intentionally, and panicked when he found MJ dead or dying. However, to make personal phone calls on his cell to try to cover up before ever calling 911, wasn't the brightest move. Maybe - just maybe - if he had summoned help first, that MJ might still be alive today. But I suppose that can only be speculation in light of how loaded he already was with all the drugs that had been administered over the course of a few short hours.

    I sound like a real MJ fan - I'm not. I neither liked or disliked him, but have to give credit where credit is due - he was a performer like no other. Whether his personal life was what has been portrayed, I really have no idea. Somehow I feel it was grossly blown out of proportion. Yes - MJ was strange indeed, but..............he didn't need to die!
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    I've been reading so much about MJ's death it's hard to know what to believe anymore. Apparently he had more or less prepared himself for his death. He had mentioned to his own kids that he might not be alive for Father's Day, he was saying "they will kill me" and it seems he was referring to the drugs he was taking. I saw pictures of a room with cupboards so full of prescription bottles and other bottles of unidentified pills I couldn't believe it. I don't think anyone will ever know the real truth about his death but a lot of people are speculating that this could have been a mercy killing. MJ knew he was at the end of the road, knew he couldn't change anything and this was his way of ending it. In other countries mercy killings are legal, over here they aren't but I have to wonder if that doctor was under so much pressure from MJ that he decided to "help" him out of compassion? Not right I know but how would we react if we knew this was the only way out for someone in MJ's state? Elizabeth Taylor had urged him many times to get into rehab to no avail, what was left without rehab?
    I think the world should let it go, and may he rest in peace, that is what he wanted at the end.
    His family should stop trying to cash in in his death , all of them are vultures IMO.

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    Many might disagree with me, but i see it that MJ was a victim really, a victim of his abusive childhood,fame and probably much more than any of us will ever know, i was not really a fan either, but i loved his music,just was not into him .

    I hope they throw the book at that doctor any doctor who can act so irresponsibly deserves what he gets.

    MJ to me was a lost soul, someone i felt sorry for,and maybe yes he was bizzare and did some crazy stuff, but he was still a human being.,who deserves compassion.

    I read that he often did outrageous things, like wearing the masks in public just to get at the media, maybe there is some truth in that , who knows.

    I remember reading once he wanted to be frozen on ice and then brought back to life, ironic that in death his body is being held on ice, almost his wish in a strange way, just cannot bring him back to life is all.
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    I've read and heard that Michael was a very gentle soul and people took advantage of him. Every time I saw him interviewed, I remember thinking of how soft spoken he was. He had a quality like no one I had seen before.

    I love his music. I was never happy about what he did to himself and his appearance. I thought he was so cute when the Jackson Five was popular. I've always wondered if he did all the surgeries to try to hide from something. I saw him in the masks all the time too. I never heard why he was wearing them.

    Some people want to live their lives to the fullest and go out with a bang. I guess we'll never know if that's how he was thinking. It's sad to see his children so lost without him. I agree that he shouldn't have died when he did. He could have been so scared of the upcoming tour that it terrified him into another world, if that makes sense.


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