Need Help

[Lori Jordan]

Molly and Lacy got into a fight(again)i was not at home.

Lacy has 4 puntures around her neck,both ears are ripped,and her foot.

Nothing is open until the morning.

WHAT DO I DO?Im so scared of the punctures,I cut all the hair away from around the punstures,Im in such a panic right now i cannot think straight.

She is not bleeding anymore,but she is just laying around like she is lost.

I know puntures cannot be stiched they have to heal from the inside out,But what do i do until the meantime?

any suggestions would be appreciated

[Kfamr]

Are there no emergency vets in the area?

How scary.

[Lori Jordan]

nothing is open no emerg...small town

[Lori Jordan]

I dont know what to do with Molly i really dont,Im getting sick of her doing this to Lacy,I'm not getting rid of either dog,There has to be a solution to this,It has been bad before when they have gotten into fights,But never like this,I guess there going to have to be seperated when im out.


I do not mean to sound heartless towards Molly i love her,she is friendly with humans,But if you could see Lacy now,it would shock you!

[Karen]

Disinfect the area around it, and maybe cover it witha loose bandage for now, just to keep gunk from getting in it. I definitely think they need to be seperated when left home alone, this situation will not resolve itself.

[Lori Jordan]

What could i use though?I dont know about peroxide,rubbing alchol?

[Jadapit]

I googled and found this. I hope it helps. You could go to google and find even more I'm sure. I'm so sorry this happened.



To provide proper care to a dog suffering from an animal bite, use the following tips.

Step 1: Restrain the dog if necessary.


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Step 2



Step 1a: Approach the dog slowly, speaking in a reassuring tone of voice.

Step 1b: Slip a leash around the dog's neck, then place the leash around a fixed object. Pull the dog against this object and tie the leash so the dog cannot move its head.

Step 1c: Muzzle the dog to protect yourself.

Step 2: Clip the hair around the wound.

Step 3: Flush the wound thoroughly with clean water. Avoid home antiseptics, which may cause pain when applied.

Step 4: Examine the wound. If the tissue under the wound appears to pass by when you move the skin, the wound will probably require stitches.


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Step 3


Step 5: DO NOT bandage. Allow the wound to drain unless there is excessive bleeding. If the wound does bleed excessively, follow these steps:

Step 5a: Cover wound with clean cloth, sterile dressing, or sanitary napkin.

Step 5b: Place your hand over the dressing and press firmly.

Step 5c: Keep pressure on the dressing to stop the bleeding.

Step 5d: If blood soaks through the dressing, DO NOT remove it. Apply more dressing and continue to apply pressure until the bleeding stops.

Step 6: If the wound is deep enough to require stitches, transport the dog immediately to the veterinarian.

Step 7: Be sure to contact your veterinarian if your dog is not current on its rabies vaccination

[Sevaede]

When I took in my RB Soni to the vet for the first time (the day after we got home), we had the vet check out his puncture wounds. She cleaned it and then put triple antibiotic ointment on it and told us to do the same (at home) until it healed.

[Lori Jordan]

I dont think i have it in me to rip the scabs off...

[shepgirl]

Until you can figure out what to do about the fighting I would probably kennel both while you are out. Meanwhile flushing the punctures sounds like the best thing until you can see the vet, try to keep the area free from dirt and hair, maybe shave around the punctures to make it easier to keep clean.
I wouldn't leave them alone another minute unsupervised, punctures in the neck means that things are serious, you're lucky your dog didn't finish the job this time, but there won't be another warning, I think your big dog wants Molly out of the way....not kidding, I've seen this before.

[shepgirl]

Sorry, I meant Molly wants Lacy out of the way---got the names mixed up.

[Lori Jordan]

Molly is a Newfoundland,I dont think her intensions are killing Lacy,They both have been fighting to be number 1 "Alpha"

[Freedom]

Molly is a Newfoundland,I dont think her intensions are killing Lacy,They both have been fighting to be number 1 "Alpha"

And what do you think happens when 2 dogs battle for the Alpha position??? Mostly, one dies. Rarely, the 'weaker' dog leaves the pack. Lacy has no option to leave; so Molly is NOT going to leave her be until she is GONE.

Keep them separated to keep them BOTH safe. If Molly succeeds in her quest, depending on the laws in your area, it could mean she has to be PTS.

Sorry I have no idea what to do about the wounds. When I have had cat bites - puncture wounds - I had to soak them in saline solution every 4 hours to keep them from healing from the top down. I don't know if that would be the same in this case or not.

[Catty1]

Lori - don't rip the scabs off! Just my thought - that is how the skin heals...

Perhaps after this, talk to a behaviour therapist, or get ideas from PTrs here on how YOU become th "alpha". Maybe that will keep them from competing with each other.

Like Jadapit posted, if there is no bleeding, no drastic measures.

The only home stuff I would EVER use is Polysporin - but on vet's advice, as it can keep the wound from 'breathing'.

HUGS to your poor pup!

[Glacier]

She's laying around because she's likely in shock. Keep her warm and calm. Keep the wounds from getting dirty, but don't block them. Punctures have far more damage under the skin than is visible from the outside. They need to drain or they will form nasty abcesses. Do not feed her tonight. Get her to a vet asap. The not feeding is in case they need to knock her out to put in drains or sutures.

You have two females who have fought more than once. Females do not quit. They do not stop when the other dog submits. They do not forgive and forget. I'm really not trying to be harsh or mean, but if you continue to leave them unsupervised, one of them will kill the other. If they were my dogs, they'd never see each other again. They'd be seperated at all times.