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  1. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    But "I saw," or "I have seen" is correct! "I seen" is not.
    "I saw" is not correct, if you did not see. Likewise, "I have seen" is not correct if you did not see.

    Furthermore, it is grammatically incorrect to begin with a conjunction, such as the word "but."

    Still furthermore, it is grammatically incorrect to separate two words or two phrases with a comma when they are separated by the conjunction "or," as in "'I saw,' or 'I have seen.'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willow Oak View Post
    "I saw" is not correct, if you did not see. Likewise, "I have seen" is not correct if you did not see.

    But (incorrect ) if I really have seen it, or I really did see it, then "I saw it" is correct - not "I seen it". Those hyphens I use all the time are incorrect also. Correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willow Oak View Post
    "I saw" is not correct, if you did not see. Likewise, "I have seen" is not correct if you did not see.

    Furthermore, it is grammatically incorrect to begin with a conjunction, such as the word "but."

    Still furthermore, it is grammatically incorrect to separate two words or two phrases with a comma when they are separated by the conjunction "or," as in "'I saw,' or 'I have seen.'"

    Worse still is correcting the moderator of a forum.
    It is not incorrect in the course of a conversation to begin a sentence with a connection, although it is poor form in written literature.

    It is correct to say "I saw" as in "I saw the squirrel." It is also correct to say "I have seen squirrels." I only put that comma in that sentence as I was typing it and edited it to put the "or" in and therefore should have deleted the comma. I was in error in that particular instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    It is not incorrect in the course of a conversation to begin a sentence with a connection, although it is poor form in written literature.

    It is correct to say "I saw" as in "I saw the squirrel." It is also correct to say "I have seen squirrels." I only put that common in that sentence as I was typing it and edited it to put the "or" in and therefore should have deleted the comma. I was in error in that particular instance.
    You are totally correct (as if you need my stamp of approval). However, I think that it is okay to "break" the rules of grammar in the instance of written literature if one is doing so for emphasis or to be poetic. I do it all the time.

    For instance, the sentence, "I do it all the time," is grammatically incorrect. Can you tell me why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willow Oak View Post
    For instance, the sentence, "I do it all the time," is grammatically incorrect. Can you tell me why?
    "I do it all the time," is not incorrect, unless there's nothing after the comma and that needs to be a period.
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  6. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by Willow Oak View Post
    You are totally correct (as if you need my stamp of approval). However, I think that it is okay to "break" the rules of grammar in the instance of written literature if one is doing so for emphasis or to be poetic. I do it all the time.

    For instance, the sentence, "I do it all the time," is grammatically incorrect. Can you tell me why?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    "I do it all the time," is not incorrect, unless there's nothing after the comma and that needs to be a period.
    In the above quote, I say "I think that it is okay to "break" the rules of grammar in the instance of written literature if one is doing so for emphasis or to be poetic. I do it all the time."

    The context makes what I wrote okay and understandable; but technically, "I do it all the time" is grammatically incorrect. One must not use a naked pronoun -- i. e., a pronoun without an antecedent; otherwise, how is the reader to know what "it" is? The most grammatically correct way to write would be:

    "I think that it is okay to 'break' the rules of grammar in the instance of written literature if one is doing so for emphasis or to be poetic. I 'break' the rules of grammar all the time."

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Willow Oak View Post
    You are totally correct (as if you need my stamp of approval). However, I think that it is okay to "break" the rules of grammar in the instance of written literature if one is doing so for emphasis or to be poetic. I do it all the time.

    For instance, the sentence, "I do it all the time," is grammatically incorrect. Can you tell me why?
    Yes.

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    Dear golf club, I don't put gift cards in "thier" stockings; I put gift cards in their stockings. This is an awkward spelling mistake on the sign in front of the club.

    Dear banquet hall, I think the Illinois "Youht" USAC might have been a little surprised when they saw the name of their organization on your east welcome sign! It was correct on the sign that faces west, though.

    Dear whoever came up with the word "adorbz"- I flinch when I hear an adult say this. Just say adorable.

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    Too and to, I sometimes have a problem when using these two words. If you see me use these two words incorrectly, please correct me


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    Quote Originally Posted by redbird View Post
    Too and to, I sometimes have a problem when using these two words. If you see me use these two words incorrectly, please correct me
    If I notice that mistake in a post of yours, i would let you know! It is funny, my most common typo - which I often Make, post, then go back and correct, is hitting a semicolon instead of an apostrophe. I know which is correct, just hit the wrong key!
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    I went back to read this thread, it's actually quite informative and I think I've got most of it sorted out concerning "lay down and "lie" down. You "lie" down to have a rest, and he "lay" down to have a rest - or should that be he "laid" down to have a rest? No, I think it is: He "laid" the blanket on the bed, or he "laid" the table.

    Now, if you lie to someone about something (not telling the truth), is it: "He lied to you" in past tense? And... he will never "lie" to you?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Randi View Post
    I went back to read this thread, it's actually quite informative and I think I've got most of it sorted out concerning "lay down and "lie" down. You "lie" down to have a rest, and he "lay" down to have a rest - or should that be he "laid" down to have a rest? No, I think it is: He "laid" the blanket on the bed, or he "laid" the table.

    Now, if you lie to someone about something (not telling the truth), is it: "He lied to you" in past tense? And... he will never "lie" to you?
    It would be he lied to you, that is the past tense. And he would never lie to a judge ... - anything about untruths is lie
    He lied He lies He told a lie He will lie
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    Sign on the street near where I work: "No parking on all village streets between 2 and 6 AM". Wouldn't it be "no parking on any village streets..."? #wordnerd
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassiesmom View Post
    Sign on the street near where I work: "No parking on all village streets between 2 and 6 AM". Wouldn't it be "no parking on any village streets..."? #wordnerd
    To me, either one could be correct/acceptable. It's not one of those blunders that screams "no way" at you, like "saw/seen", etc., but then, I'm no expert.
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    Cassiesmom, I tend to agree with you - in fact, I'm pretty sure you're right.

    What happened in the schools the past 20 years?



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