Tough coffee cup. I need to get me one 'o them.
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Tough coffee cup. I need to get me one 'o them.
I really want this this gun.....to take care of those that bug me.
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Should coffee be banned too? Was the mug full of coffee when the attack started? If it was, he could have actually aspirated some and choked to death on it, and those sharp force injuries about the head could very well be secondary. :rolleyes::p
And my point remains the same.
It's not the tool that should be feared, it's just an inanimate object.
It's the person using it who should be feared.
If we just banned humans, the problem would be solved! Oh, wait - we ARE humans .... hmmmm ....
I agree! Someone has suggested that people are afraid of guns...I suppose some are. Some people are afraid of heights as well. Or public speaking.
I will say what I AM afraid of - people who have guns. Especially people who feel the need to take their guns out in public. And even more afraid of people who feel the need to own military style guns. That does not mean I cower in my home afraid to go in public places. It just means I do what I can to avoid these people. There is a reason you hear "armed and dangerous."
Sorry LH - your argument is still fallacious. To make your stretch you would have to compare the exposure to guns that result in death and the exposure to vehicles that result in death. You have not even taken inot consideration the number of guns vcs the number of vehcules. I think your "fairly common charge of vehicular homicide" hyperbole. How do you define "fairly common"? Once a day?Quote:
Quite the contrary. If you figure the statistical probabilities of death from firearms (# of firearms vs number of deaths annually) vs the number of deaths by vehicle (again, use the same calculation) the motor vehicle is far, far more likely to kill when operated as designed. There are more firearms than vehicles in the United States, and far more vehicular deaths, be they homicides (vehicular homicide is a fairly common charge) or other incidents. In a vehicular homicide, the vehicle performed as designed, and someone died, therefore the end conclusion using your logic is the same, vehicles MUST be banned.
About 25% of adults in the US own guns. As there are about 250,000 vehicles in the US - there is a huge difference in exposure. Quibble with the numbers if you like - it doesn't take much thinking to recognize that comparing the number of deaths by gun to deaths by vehicle is invalid.
It is a good stretch...but still a stretch. You have apples, oranges and peaches - and all you have produced is fruit salad.
So why can't I sue the manufacturer of a gun if it kills someone?
250,000 vehicles in the US? That's an very poor estimate, as is the 25% of adults owning firearms.
according to the census bureau, in 2006 there were 48,000 deaths in motor vehicle accidents.
In that same year there were 13000 homicides involving firearms.
You can parse, twist and adjust statistics however you care to, but the end result is the same. you are far, far more likely to be killed by a motor vehicle than a firearm.
This thread is beginning to remind me of a saying from Grandma Paterson: "Two stubborn beaks of equal strength can stretch a worm to any length!" And, she'd point out, still be hungry while doing so!
Just for the record?
Coley Mitchell, Lab Tech, Found Drunk, Partially Clothed, Surrounded By Escaped Monkeys
Coley Mitchell, 32, was arrested for public drunkenness after being discovered in a locker room intoxicated, with his pants half down and two lab monkeys running around.
A lab tech at Georgia Health Sciences University may have engaged in too much monkey business.
Officials jailed Coley Mitchell, 32, on August 13 after he was discovered intoxicated with his pants down in a campus locker room.
In the same room: two lab monkeys who had been let out of their cages, the Augusta Chronicle reported.
Mitchell smelled of alcohol, according to police reports, and became belligerent and combative when asked to leave the room.
Mitchell was booked on charges of public drunkenness, but was released on Aug. 17, and has since been terminated by the university, a spokeswoman told The Huffington Post.
"GHSU does not condone behavior that conflicts with the research, education and clinical missions of the university and employees are expected to conduct themselves, at all times, with integrity and respect," Jennifer Hilliard Scott, senior media relations coordinator, in a statement to WJBF-TV made before the termination.
Meanwhile, the monkeys that were found running loose have examined by a veterinarian and found to be unharmed, WRDW-TV reported.
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"GHSU does not condone behavior that conflicts with the research, education and clinical missions of the university and employees are expected to conduct themselves, at all times, with integrity and respect,"
And the monkeys get away with a slap on the wrist?
If I had a choice - I'd lock myself in a cage until the cops showed up.
Primates, Humans.........nope.;)
Well duh! If there are far, far more motor vehicles than guns that stands to reason. But it doesn't mean vehicles are more dangerous than guns. It just means there are more of them. If you want to make this argument you have to look at vehicle deaths to number of vehicles as compared to gun deaths to number of guns.
You would tear me to pieces if I made such a sloppy argument...You can do better than that!
To me the wonder of pets is that they love you...no matter how you hold your teacup...:love::love::D
Yet another shooting..........this time someone opened fire outside the Empire State building - reporting at least 5-10 shot. Not really much info yet.
More fuel for the fire for this thread. It will never end. :mad:
I see nothing inappropriate about it. In fact, it is what I am thinking.
And especially as we have had a page or so of people joking about a death by coffee mug!
I just didn't find an implication to the OK City bombing, as a laughing matter. Must just be my stuffy old age speaking. The coffee mug references were just plain silly and it did lighten the "discussion" a bit too. Of course - JMHO.
ETA: My apology - and I stand corrected. A pick up truck was NOT used in the OK City bombing. So I guess the pick up truck reference was acceptable and funny afterall. :rolleyes:
It was a Ryder box truck. I was working for Ryder at the time and was in the Kansas City office when the FBI came to look at the rental records. One of the reasons they were able to so quickly aprehend the bad guys was that Ryder has an identifying number put on many of the pieces of the truck - axles, engine block, etc. So when the truck blew up it was still possible to identify the truck and from there to who rented it.
My husband also worked for Ryder at the time. Shortly afterward he was on a plane wearing a shirt with the company logo on it. Another passenger lit into him...how could he wear that shirt! Yelling at him. Apparently being the employee of a company from which a terrorist rents a truck is shameful....:confused::confused::rolleyes:
I wish I had my gun with me out in the back yard with the dogs last night! Two big guys were in my neighbor across the streets back yard. Her husband was not home. Layla spotted them and started barking, they started running. Some quick calls and several neighbors shining spotlights and they came running back through, jumped in the back of a pick up truck and took off. The vehicle description was given to the city cop sitting in a parking lot three tenths of a mile up the road. That is a waste of time, we live in the township.:rolleyes:
Would I have chased them if I had my gun? No. What would I have done if they ran up to me? Whatever they want I suppose, seeing as I was unarmed.:( I wonder if they were selling Avon at 10:30 at night and figured since the husband wasn't home (his truck wasn't in the driveway) they'd go to the back door? If we wouldn't have scared them, would my dearest friend across the street not be alive today? Only if she couldn't get to her gun before they got upstairs to her room.
This is why I have a gun on my dresser. Seems I'm not very smart or it would have been in my hand out in the yard.
Every time I hear some jamoke say, after the latest shooting..."if only someone in the school/classroom/hair salon/movie theater, etc. etc. had a gun!" Here we see trained professionals who create collateral damage. When will people understand it is not like the movies...a clean shot to the head of the bad man?????.:confused::confused: No one else is hurt and everyone is back in the next episode without so much as a limp!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes:
Opps! Don't you hate when that happens??
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...-intruder?lite
If the woman isn't charged, I can picture where this going. :eek:
But she didn't. She didn't keep a baseball bat beside the bed. She kept a gun. And killed him.
He might have survived a baseball bat.
What could have been has nothing to do with what is. She shot him...with a gun...and he is dead.
I do not blame it on the gun. it is the fault of the person who had the gun. I hope she will be held accountable.
Either way -though - blame her or the gun - her husband is no less dead.
Geez, and it wasn't even in the middle of the night or something. Seems a little fishy...I hope she gets some charges pressed too.
If it was intentional, she should be charged with manslaughter or murder (not sure of the necessary elements in the state). If it was accidental, she has a life sentence anyway. How very tragic.
It wasn't the gun's fault, of course, it was the fault of the untrained woman that held the gun. Like ES said, it is very possible he would have survived the baseball bat attack, or the pepper spray attack, a knife attack, or the alarm on the front door going off. Guns tend to make things so final.
Another "opps!" moment. Man shoots son... http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...enage-son?lite