So what do you think would have happened if the father had not had a gun?
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So what do you think would have happened if the father had not had a gun?
I really find it funny that people are 'up in arms' about an incident where stupidity starts and ends the event.
This stupid kid is dressed in a balaclava and playing ninja in the middle of the night.
The stupid father, instead on hunkering down, calling the cops and waiting?
He plays BBA, goes out and shoots his kid.
So, who really is at fault?
George Zimmerman??? He made it "fashionable" to shoot based on fashion choices.
Is fault the issue? I am always amazed about people who think that who is at "fault" is the first question to ask. The kid is no less dead, the dad is no less devastated regardless of "fault."
I have my opinion of "fault". But in the end...guns kill - that what they are made to do.
10,000 rounds of ammunition. That's what the Minneapolis shooter had.
In addition to killing the owner of the company and a couple of co-workers, he shot the FedEx guy who was making a delivery.
Who shall we blame this one on?? People who get fired??
I blame the government for letting anyone other than the police run around with a loaded gun. :rolleyes: Who will be next?
Keeping us safe.... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1913676.html
Wha-wha-what?
Did someone say explode?:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=31vm3-BQRJU
or a nine year old??? It is so hard to distinguish, isn't it?
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...for-skunk?lite
I really don't see that there is any good opinion either way on this bizarre topic. I am a pacifist. I don't believe in violence. If I had a loaded gun at the ready to save a loved one or my own life, I would not hesitate to shoot the interloper to death and I highly doubt I would ever feel a twinge of regret. That being said, there are a lot of variables. Kids breakin' into your safe to check it out of curiosity. My dad had guns in his safe and he left it open when my brother popped by with his three young sons out of the blue. Well the kids wandered downstairs whilst no-one was payin' any mind as children tend to do. Needless to say, my bro never popped by unnanounced again. Put the fear of God in him and I do beieve my dad felt like crap 'till the day he died about that horrible wee freaky faux pas. He was not expecting company, simply cleanin' his guns,. Not harm done, but it could have turned into one helluva a nightmare. Robbers turning the gun on you and also stealin' it to kill and or rob other folks. There was an older, very back man who use collec our cans, early in the morning, sometimes late at night as well. If I felt threatened and shot him to death' well I'm not to sure if I'd be able to live with meself. Ol dude was harmless. Just tryingo make a living and feed his self. I'm not sure about this question. I think if anyone is certain about this issue, maybe they should think about it more. Fact is, if ya'll wanna gun, easy to get one, no.
Oh ya, forgot to mention, not much daylight in long Canadian winters. Pretty hard to see. especially when yer takin' out yer trash and forget to wear yer glasses. :eek:
A 65-year-old man was airlifted from Silver City to an El Paso hospital after he was shot by the gun shop employee with a .45 handgun.
SILVER CITY, N.M. — An employee at a New Mexico gun shop who was unloading a handgun accidentally shot and wounded a customer in the back, authorities said Wednesday.
The 65-year-old customer, who has not been identified, was airlifted from Silver City to an El Paso, Texas, hospital after the shooting on Tuesday and was listed in good condition, police Capt. Steve Reese said.
The shooting occurred at Copper Country Sporting Arms and involved a .45 caliber handgun, Reese said.
"It was pretty unusual," he said. "We hadn't seen any signs of foul play or anything like that."
Reese said the case had been handed over to prosecutors who will make a decision on whether any charges should be filed.
The name of the employee was not released.
A person who answered the phone Wednesday at Copper Country said the store would not comment.
The store is listed on Silver City's tourism website as a shop that sells guns, ammunition, bows, archery supplies and related sporting goods.
Reese said the store has not had any previous problems.
Silver City is located in southwestern New Mexico
We had a shooting in a gun store a while back. Bullets were flying in all directions. Crook (customer)shoots store worker & then worker shoots customer.
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/l...n-indianapolis Gun stores can be dangerous places.
He shot a guy who shot at him? Do you blame him? That's why guns are good to have around.
You can google search, "guns are dangerous" and find plenty of articles. It's all about what you search.
I've never felt unsafe in a Gun/Hunting Store and I've been in quite a few with my Dad.
Another view?
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Another view...that of a mother
MIAMI (AP) — The mother of a 13-year-old south Florida girl who was fatally shot while riding a school bus with her younger sister says the child was "fun-loving, helpful, a happy girl," according to a statement released by the family.
A 15-year-old boy was in juvenile detention Wednesday, charged with manslaughter after police say he took a gun out of a backpack and showed it to other students during the ride to school on Tuesday. Investigators say he fired it once in an apparent accident, striking Lourdes Guzman.
The girl, known as Jina to her family and friends and identified as Lourdes Guzman-DeJesus on her Facebook page, died later at a Miami hospital.
"Feels like just yesterday I saw her running around in her Pamper, dancing and modeling for the camera," said the girl's mother, who identifies herself on Facebook as Ady DeJesus, in the statement. "Times and moments spent with Jina are memories I will cherish and keep in my heart forever."
The boy was also charged with carrying a concealed weapon. He waived his right to appear in court Wednesday morning and will remain in a juvenile detention center. He is not being identified by The Associated Press because of his age.
A 45 year old man from Southfield, Michigan is recovering after shooting his own penis in a fluke accident Tuesday, June 12th. The incident took place in Birmingham, Michigan while the man was working for an unnamed air conditioning company.
It has been reported the man routinely carries a Glock pistol hidden in his pants wherever he goes, including to work. While he was adjusting the .40-caliber weapon it discharged, shooting him in the penis at around 11 a.m. - and his day was officially ruined.
He was taken to Beaumont Hospital in Royal Oak, Michigan where he was treated and underwent surgery. At this time it is unknown if the man, whose name is still not known, is still in the hospital or not.
To make matters worse, he may be facing charges of a reckless discharge of a firearm, but the local prosecutor is still making that determination. The man does have the required legal permits to possess and carry the firearm.
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Shoot you of course!
Florida man pleads not guilty to shooting teen to death over loud music
Jacksonville Sheriff's Office
Michael Dunn is accused of the shooting death of Jordan Davis.
By Elizabeth Chuck, NBC News
A Florida gun collector has pleaded not guilty to a murder charge alleging that he opened fire on a car full of unarmed teenagers, killing one, in an altercation that police say stemmed from loud music.
Michael David Dunn, 45, acted “as any responsible firearms owner would have,” his lawyer said of the Friday evening incident at a gas station outside a convenience store in Jacksonville, Fla.
Dunn and his girlfriend were in Jacksonville for his son's wedding when they pulled up in their car next to the teens. Police allege that while the girlfriend was in the store, Dunn told Jordan Russell Davis, 17, and his three friends to turn down their music.
"It was loud," Jacksonville homicide Lt. Rob Schoonover said of the teens' music. "They admitted that. That's not a reason for someone to open fire."
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After an exchange of words, Dunn began shooting with a handgun, Schoonover said.
"Nobody else in that vehicle was struck; it was just our victim [Davis], which was lucky because the vehicle was shot eight or nine times," Schoonover said.
Davis was in the back seat and was struck twice, reported The Orlando Sentinel.
Dunn and his girlfriend drove off and spent the night at their hotel, according to Schoonover, but witnesses took down his license plate number. Police arrested him Saturday morning at his home in Satellite Beach, Fla., on one charge of murder and three charges of attempted murder.
"His side of the story is he felt threatened and that is the reason he took action," Schoonover said.
On Monday, Dunn -- a gun collector who shot at local gun ranges, according to authorities -- pleaded not guilty in Brevard County court, with his attorney describing his actions as self-defense.
How anyone could think that was the "responsible" thing to do is beyond me. Yes, loud music is annoying and potential damaging to one's hearing, but it is no life-threatening, and need not be met with lethal force. No doubt, if he didn't have a gun, he would have resorted to some other means of violence, and who know where that might have ended.
Self-defense? He could have driven away!
That guy should have his licence revoked & be required to get rid of all firearms. If this goes to trial & the man convicted of murder or manslaughter,
wouldn't he be ineligble to own a gun? He clearly shows he is not responsible enough to own or carry a gun.
The guy in this story (below) deserves much more punishment that he'll ever get around here. It just makes me sick to think how much this
animal suffered before he was put down by Officers the next day. Damn shame.:mad:
http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...t|IndyStar.com
There have been two separate incidents of young teens being shot in Chicago over the past couple of days. One was a girl who was at a slumber party. She was shot several times and died at the hospital. They're saying it might have been gang-related and a case of mistaken identity. The girl was an honor student attending a charter school, and she had no known gang affiliations. Neither did the girl who was hosting the sleepover. The other was a boy who was shot on the street and was also thought to be gang-related. Both of these stories were in the newspapers and on the TV news. It is just sad. There is no easy answer to the problem of gangs and guns in Chicago. The situation doesn't improve because the gangs have a lot of power. Very sad and not likely to end any time soon. The mayor and chief of police have both said they want to do all they can to stop the violence but it needs to be approached from a lot of directions- education, jobs, housing, poverty, support for parents and families, and on and on. Very tough problem.
A 7-year-old boy was fatally shot by his father outside a gun shop in western Pennsylvania, according to a Pennsylvania State Police report.
Joseph Loughrey, the father, had gone in to Twig’s Reloading Den in East Lackawannock Township some time before 11 a.m. to try to sell a 9 mm Taurus handgun and a scope rifle, according to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. Store managers weren't interested.
Loughrey, 44, and his son, Craig Loughrey, returned to the truck, where Loughrey secured his son in a booster seat on the passenger side. He then placed the long gun in the bed of the truck.
As he got into the truck, he reached to place the handgun into a glove box storage unit, police told the Tribune-Review. That's when it fired.
Authorities were called at 10:53 a.m. local time and found the boy lying next to the truck after a failed attempt at resuscitation. They stayed on scene until after 1 p.m., dispatchers said.
"All evidence at this point would suggest that this incident is accidental," the Pennsylvania State Police report stated.
According to the Tribune-Review, Loughrey didn't realize that a round remained in the gun's chamber.
“This happens all too often where people think the gun was empty,” State Police Lt. Eric Hermick.
Twig’s Reloading Den is an outdoor supply store about 70 miles from Pittsburgh.
Imy Howard, owner of Howard & Son Meat Packing store next door, told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that her son heard a shot this morning. She said that Twig’s Reloading Den hosted target shooting in the back parking lot last week but not this week.
A Twig’s employee told the Post-Gazette that the incident was “just an unfortunate accident.”
In a tragic accident, Michael Bayless, a father from Indiana has died after his 3-year-old son shot him with a handgun.
33-year-old Michael Bayless was watching television when the toddler got hold of a .45 caliber weapon and fired. Bayless was pronounced dead on the scene.
“We think that this is purely a tragic accident that happened,” an officer explained.
Police are investigating how the toddler had access to the weapon.
Indeed. Nothing says "Merry Christmas!" or "Happy Holidays!" if you prefer, quite like a shopping mall shooting!
An appeals court ruled that the Illinois ban on carrying a concealed weapon in public is unconstitutional. We'll see what happens now. There is so much gun violence in Chicago but I don't know how the two are related, if at all. Do individual buildings in other states (I'm thinking here of schools, churches and museums) have the individual ability to make themselves "no guns allowed in this building"? That is, no concealed weapons in this particular public place.
Yes Cassiesmom - some states have laws about where you cannot take guns. But of course the NRA fights them tooth and nail. There was one nut who fought the prohibition on carrying in an airport.:rolleyes::rolleyes:Quote:
A 5-year-old Philadelphia girl shot herself while playing with a gun Tuesday night, according to police.
The girl was home in the Kensington neighborhood with her two siblings and her father when the gun went off -- hitting her in the big toe, police said.
The girl's father rushed her to St. Christopher's Hospital with what police called minor injuries.
It's unclear how the girl got a hold of her father's gun and if her siblings were also playing with it.
The investigation would continue into Wednesday. Police said the girl's father owns the gun because he works in private security.
Posted: 12/10/2012
Last Updated: 1 day ago
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INDIANAPOLIS -
A man shot and killed his mother during a disagreement about taking out the trash, police said.
Officers were called to a home in the 6000 block of Nolte Street just after 4 p.m. Monday.
They found Paula Day, 54, suffering from multiple gunshot wounds. She was pronounced dead at the scene.
"We think it was a dispute about trash, whether taking it out or getting it from the location, between the mother and the son, the son then shot the mother multiple times, fatally wounding her," said Indianapolis police spokesman Officer Kendale Adams.
Day's son, Eric Bowman, 36, then drove into Morgan County, where he led authorities on a short chase before he was shot in the leg by the Brooklyn town marshal, authorities said.
Bowman was taken to Wishard Memorial Hospital in Indianapolis with non-life-threatening injuries.
Police said Bowman does not have a previous criminal record.
Neighbors were shocked by the violence.
"I feel so bad for her (Day's mother). She's an older lady, has been very nice and has been a good neighbor since we've lived here," said neighbor Peggy Murphy.
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Someone has to do something about those Syrians.
What home is complete without 17 firearms?Quote:
MISSION VIEJO – Detectives are investigating a home burglary that resulted in 17 firearms being stolen from a Mission Viejo residence.
Investigators believe that sometime between 9:15 a.m. and 12:20 p.m. Wednesday the suspects forced their way into a home in the 24000 block of Delphi Street, said Jim Amormino, an Orange County Sheriff's Department spokesman.
The burglar or burglars apparently broke in through a back window and ransacked the home, stealing more than $200,000 worth of jewelry, cash and firearms.
The firearms, which were in a large gun safe that was pried open, included what Amormino described as "two AR-15 assault rifles and 15 handguns." Authorities described them as "restored" firearms, most of which are gold-plated.
"Our concern, obviously, is that these guns are on the street," Amormino said.
The residents of the home didn't believe that they had been specifically targeted, Amormino said. Authorities did not have a description of the burglary or burglars.
Score for the bad guys!
NEWTOWN, Conn. — At least one person, believed to be the gunman, is dead and another wounded in a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., according to a local ABC affiliate.
Police report that the school is now cleared of shooters, but they are still treating it as an active shooter situation and all schools in the district remain locked down.
Police are reporting a number of injured parties, the nature of which are not yet clear, The Hartford Courant reported. There are unconfirmed reports of two shooters, one dead, one still at large, according to the paper.
One child was carried from the school by a police officer, according to The Newtown Bee, apparently seriously wounded.
The school superintendent's office says the district has locked down schools as a preventive measure to ensure the safety of students and staff. The superintendent's secretary, Kathy June, says reports of a shooting are not confirmed.
State police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance says they have a number of personnel on the scene to assist.
The Courant reported that police said a shooter was in the main office of the school shortly after 9:40 a.m.
Groups of students — some crying, some holding hands — were being escorted away from the school by their teachers, the Courant reported.
A staging area has been set up for students and their parents near the school.
According to the local ABC affiliate, June released the following statement: "Due to reports of a shooting as yet unconfirmed, the district is taking preventive measures by putting all schools in lockdown until we ensure the safety of all students and staff. All public and private schools in the town are in a lockdown situation."
The district is made up of four elementary schools, two middle schools and one high school.
Newtown is in northern Fairfield County, about 45 miles southwest of Hartford and 80 miles northeast of New York City.