They were talking about this on Headline News today. Apparently because it was of a woman and near Halloween, the FBI doesn't think it's a hate crime!!!! I bet their mommas are proud!!! :rolleyes:
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Okee Dokee,:) Sometimes I think you are channeling this women.:)
Palin Suggests Obama Would Re-Write Constitution
October 29, 2008 7:57 AM
ABC News' Imtiyaz Delawala Reports: Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin went beyond her running mate's recent attack on Sen. Barack Obama -- inaccurately claiming that Obama called the lack of "redistributive change" during the civil rights movement a "tragedy" -- and used Obama's 2001 interview to insinuate that he wants to re-write the U.S. Constitution and appoint radical Supreme Court justices and judges who would confiscate the property of American citizens.
At two rallies in Western Pennsylvania last night, Palin referenced at the top of her remarks a 2001 public radio interview with Obama that surfaced this week, in which Obama discussed the role of the courts in the civil rights movement.
"There he was talking about the need for quote 'redistributive change,'" Palin said on the campus of Shippensburg University Tuesday night. “Sen. Obama said that he regretted that the Supreme Court hadn't been more radical. And he described the Court's refusal to take up the issues of redistribution of wealth as a tragedy. And he said he also regretted that the Supreme Court didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers there in the Constitution”
Obama had in fact argued the opposite in the 2001 interview, saying that the civil rights movement had become too focused on making change through the judicial system, rather than from the ground up through community organizations.
But Palin used Obama's words to follow an argument Sen. John McCain has made this week that Obama has long-advocated for "spreading the wealth." "Obama says that he wants to spread the wealth," Palin said to boos from the crowd. "In other words he thinks that it's your job to earn the wealth and it's his job to spread it."
But Palin then went beyond any argument McCain has made, using the 2001 interview to insinuate that Obama wants to re-write the U.S. Constitution and appoint radical Supreme Court justices, while also suggesting that under Obama, judges would confiscate the property of American citizens.
Referencing the interview, Palin said, "So you have to ask, is this a suggestion that's he’d want to re-write the founding document of our great nation to accomplish his goals. And what does that say about his ideas on future Supreme Court justices?"
"Let me remind Barack Obama of something else. When judges don’t confiscate your property and your hard-earned -- all of your hard-earned money and then re-distribute that, he may call that a tragedy. But I call it fairness and adherence to our U.S. Constitution," Palin added later in her remarks.
In the interview, Obama described one of the "tragedies of the civil rights movement" was that "the civil rights movement became so court-focused".
"I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways, we still suffer from that," Obama said in the interview.
When a caller asked whether economic redistribution should come through the courts or the legislative process, Obama replied, "I'm not optimistic about bringing about major redistributive change through the courts. The institution just isn't structured that way."
Obama's 2001 interview made no mention of judges confiscating property. The Palin campaign did not provide clarification on what Palin was referring to with the remark.
Palin said the 2001 interview revealed Obama's "real ideology" and that his goal to "spread your wealth around" would only spread "scarcity and poverty and bureaucracy" and would stifle the country's entrepreneurial spirit. She asked those in the crowd to support the Republican ticket to preserve the "uniquely American system that our founding fathers created."
"Sometimes in politics it's those candid little moments that give us the whole picture," Palin said at a second rally on the Penn State campus in State College, PA last night. "But our opponent's ideological commitment to spread your wealth around has been tried in other societies, and the only thing it ever spreads is scarcity and poverty and bureaucracy, and it stifles the entrepreneurial spirit that made this country the greatest country on Earth."
The comments were similar to remarks Palin made at rallies this weekend in Iowa, where the Republican vice presidential nominee seemed to move from accusing Obama’s economic plans of having elements of socialism to also allude to the problems faced by communist systems.
The thing I find most hysterical is that there are comments, tapes, videos and other media that's been 'taken outta context, 'massaged, misconstrued and misquoted' that BO has made. He will not and cannot defend himself or take the time set the record straight about any of his gaffes.
Every GOP challenge is an attack on BO's character, patriotism and race-BO has his minions constantly defending him-and never really answering any of the questions from the media.
What does he mean?
He could easily end all speculation about his radio comments and the supposed dinner party he had with Mr. PLO spokesperson captured on tape and owned by the El Lay Times.....
What about medical and school records he has not released?
BO isn't anyone that wants or thinks he should be forthright with anyone asking questions about who he is and what his agenda might be.
That's one of the basic reasons that I really do not care for him or his politics.
He's got 'typical politician" written all over.
The BO mystique is nothing more that a curtain put up by him and his handlers.
IT amounts to the old line about "ignoring the man behind the curtain".
It's just a man pulling levers, making noise and spewing flames to distract his followers and keep them from realizing that he's just another idiot, running for office and making promises he cannot keep.
The back pedal has begun in the Barry Camp.
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October 31, 2008
Barack Obama lays plans to deaden expectation after election victory
Barack Obama’s senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week’s election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harbouring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.
The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of “hope” and “change” are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.
One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, “so there’s not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair”.
The aide said that Mr Obama himself was the first to realise that expectations risked being inflated.
In an interview with a Colorado radio station, Mr Obama appeared to be engaged already in expectation lowering. Asked about his goals for the first hundred days, he said he would need more time to tackle such big and costly issues as health care reform, global warming and Iraq. “The first hundred days is going to be important, but it’s probably going to be the first thousand days that makes the difference,” he said. He has also been reminding crowds in recent days how “hard” it will be to achieve his goals, and that it will take time.
“I won’t stand here and pretend that any of this will be easy – especially now,” Mr Obama told a rally in Sarasota, Florida, yesterday, citing “the cost of this economic crisis, and the cost of the war in Iraq”. Mr Obama’s transition team is headed by John Podesta, a Washington veteran and a former chief-of-staff to Bill Clinton. He has spent months overseeing a virtual Democratic government-in-exile to plan a smooth transition should Mr Obama emerge victorious next week. The plans are so far advanced that an Obama Cabinet has been largely decided upon, with the expectation that most of his senior appointments could be announced shortly after election day.
Yet Mr Obama and his aides are under no illusions about the size of the challenges the Democrat will inherit if he enters the Oval Office. Tom Daschle, the party’s former leader in the US Senate and a strong contender for the post of White House chief-of-staff in an Obama administration, said last month that the winner next week would have only a 50 per cent chance of winning a second term in 2012.
Not only will the next president take office with the country sliding into a potentially long recession — and mired in debt — but the challenges abroad are immense. There is an unfinished war in Iraq, a worsening situation in Afghanistan and an unstable and nuclear-armed Pakistan to contend with. Iran appears intent on acquiring the bomb and there remains the ever-present threat from al-Qaeda and Islamic extremists.
If he wins, Mr Obama will inherit a Democratic-controlled Congress, and might even have the benefit of a 60-seat filibuster-proof “supermajority” in the Senate. Such a scenario would allow him to push through legislation largely unfettered by Republican opposition. Yet it also means that should the country still be mired in recession in three years’ time, voters — who have short memories — will probably blame him and the Democrats on Capitol Hill. Those stakes have led Mr Obama to conclude that while expectations need to be tempered, big things need to be achieved very early in his first term, when he will still have the political capital to achieve some of his most ambitious legislative goals.
Having promised “real” change, the pressure will be on him to deliver. In the Colorado interview, Mr Obama added: “The next president has got to come quickly out of the box.”
The early priorities being lined up if he takes power are a mixture of symbolism and substance. He plans to make a major address in a big Muslim country early in his first term. Having pledged on the campaign trail to close Guantanamo Bay, he is also determined to make early moves to rid America of the controversial prison. Yet what to do with the remaining inmates looms as an intractable problem, as many of their home governments refuse to allow them to return.
Mr Obama’s first legislative goals will be to follow through on his pledge to cut taxes for the middle class and raise them for the wealthiest Americans, and to push through a hugely expensive Bill to provide near-universal health insurance.
Liz... Your silence is deafening. ;)
Something to think about on Tuesday.
"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
–Abraham Lincoln
Look, not taking sides here, but why is it ok for Liz to make a snarky comment to Blue and Puck, but it's not ok for them to make a comment to her because she's ill?? She made some not so nice comments to Blue right after his friend (who was his boss) died.
I'm wondering if maybe she's made comments like that because she is ill. Not an excuse, but maybe that's part of it, ya know??
It's also very possible that Blue and Puck didn't read her post about her condition. I hope that she has a good outcome with it. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes, it's a scary condition.
Everyone needs to show some compassion. Let me leave it at that.
Lizbud has been a member here for almost a decade, Blue joined a month ago and pretty much had the guns drawn and the insults flying from the get go...its really hard to feel the same.
You know Jenn, one thing is making nasty comments sometimes and then balancing it out with posts about lighthearted things, and another is being a downright jerk all the time. I've been attacked by lizbud myself a few times but it was all in good fun. Some people here take things too personally.
Let's just get along. I really care about all of you.
I don't need a pity party, thanks. I've become aware of how precious
time is & decided to re-order the priorities in my life. I would much rather
take long walks with my pups in this beautiful fall weather, then argue with
someone on PT.
I've decided playing with my cats & enjoying them as they sun bath in
the afternoon sun through the glass storm door. Don't you love to see
your animals in contented rest. (They sleep in the strangest positions):)
Anyhoo, I decided to drop all exerises in futility, and post when I have
time & the subject interests me. Isn't that what we all do after all.:D
RICHARRRRRRRD!!!!Quote:
Well, at least explain where they are in relation to the Green and Libertarians?
You is SUCH a brat!:rolleyes::D
I read the thread when it was first posted and didnt add anything as I have no experience with the procedure or illness. I didnt connect the lack of responses by Liz to her thread and what she is going through do to my lack of an attention span, and my own medical issues along with everything else that has gone on recently.
Liz I appologise for any snide, snarky, or sacastic comments Ive made while you are dealing with the issues you are dealing with. I pray and wish you the best with what you are going through.
Buena Suerte, tomorrow.
When you sit down with the doctor get a big room, You'll have a tons of PTers there with you.
Write all your ?? down and don't worry-sometimes there are male nurse around.
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I have resigned myself to not watch any TV today. I went next door to visit my mom and she had the tube on.....I didn't pay any attention and still haven't turned on my TV. Even the stupid Rock and Roll radio station was pushing the 'vote'.
Eff this. IT's alllllmmmmmooooooosssssstttttt over. Time to plug in DVD!:D
Funnay email my Mom forwarded to me...
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I received the letter below from a fellow businessman and good friend and I must agree with his decision on how to choose in a must lay off situation. Please join me in sending this off to every business owner that you know.
Name taken off open letter....
Subject: If you must lay off employees in 2009
As a business owner who employs 30 people, I have resigned myself to the fact that Barack Obama will be our next President, and that my taxes and fees will go up in a BIG way.
To compensate for these increases, I figure that our customers will have to see an increase in my fees of about 8%. I will also have to lay off six of my employees. This really bothered me as I believe we are family here and didn't know how to choose who will have to go.
So, this is what I did. I strolled thru the parking lot and found eight Obama bumper stickers on my employees' cars. I have decided these folks will be the first to be laid off.
I can't think of more fair way to approach this problem. If you have a better idea, let me know. I am sending this letter to all business owners that I know.
I can't believe anyone thinks this is funny. Why not fire the ones who voted Republican. They had more to do with the messed up economy! :p Obama is not even in office yet!
Thanks for being specific.:rolleyes:
You're welcome!!! :D
Ok, banks weren't failing like they are now, not so many forclosures on homes, unemployment not as bad, stock market stable, businessess were more stable, no war sucking the life out of our country or people, I was younger...
oh, wait, I can't blame the government for that, can I? ;)
There was an article in local paper about a small tire shop owner had
decided to fly the American flag upsidedown outside his business as a
show of disgust that Obama won the election. All his employees decided
to quit their jobs if he didn't fly the flag correctly. The owner backed down
and righted the flag. Owner said he was going on vacation & couldn't get
a trained group to replace them.:)
This should cover a fair portion of why we are where we are, link.
Need to rant...my sister and hubby are staunch republicans and still love Bush..no problem thats their peroggative, I have never once said anything about politics to them since the seem to feel so strongly about it, my sis is more important to me that political bs.
They stop by unexpectedly and see my Obama book on the coffee table and totally and seriously rip me about it...excuse me this is my house and you stop by unannounced and I am made to feel like I have done something wrong...just a rant...
I won't be posting here anymore until I get the pencils I shoved in my ears removed.
This weekend I was treated to the worst possible experience ever. Our esteemed mayor was on the tube - photo op, can't miss that- and he stuttered his way thru a few press conferences.
Holy kee-rist,
I cannot stand to listen to any politician that stutters thru any interview.
I swear, it makes me want to kick my T.V. IF THEY KNEW HOW THEY SOUND they would take some diction or classes to slap the UM/AH and UHs outta their vocabulary.
I find that the difference between a well rehearsed speech and a blithering idiot speaking off the cuff is very telling when dealing with politicians.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1
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Right... Like those clowns in DC know how to run a business. Who in the hell are they to tell these companies how to run a business?
Now I am not advocating they bail them out anyway.... But hte arrogance of those people is getting to me... LOL
Can we start the revolution soon, please?
I have had a freaking FIELD DAY with how EVERYONE has tapped into the political happenings of this week.
Sports, business, comedy, including politics.
SHUT UP and let the guy get the seat warm, OK?
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I tuned into the Motorsports radio program I listen to and it's about what the pres will do about sponsorships, owners and drivers.
I tune into sports and it's all about what the pres will do about team, playoffs and his love of basketball-now, if that borders on a stereotype?
This morning I was listening to a talk show and this is the commercial that I heard.
"We have a new president who has a clear vision and now SO CAN YOU! You can have LASIK surgery done for........."
Please,
We don't even know what he thinks or how far in advance he's looking.
It's funny and sad that all these outlets are suddenly interested in politics as fodder for the listening audience.
I have had a news blackout at my house and want the Pomp and Circumstance over with as soon as possible. Get working and do the job.
The American public will wake up tomorrow with the usual arse full of political hangover and it will be business as usual,
Complain, complain, complain!:eek::p:rolleyes:
My gosh, Nancy Pelosi is a hoot!
Contraception to keep the unwanted pregnancies down so we all don't have to pay for them?The topic may be a little past her recollection so....
Why not install cameras in people's bedrooms?:D
I really love NP, she reminds me that I do have some knowledge compared to other people in the world.
I have to laugh at THIS one.
I make a mistake on my Income Tax and I will get my arse hauled off to jail.
This moron makes a 34,000 dollar mistake and get to be Head Yahoo of the Department of Whatever?
Great Picking Mr. Pres! and thanks for giving him your Seal of Approval, Lower Level Representatives of the Working Class.
I hope my government give me the forgiveness they have shown this AH.;)
I thoroughly enjoyed the Prez' speech tonight.
I LMFAO everytime the Senator from Cah lee fuh nee ah JUMPED OUT OF HER seat to applaud. She gave away every 'talking point' in the speech so badly I forgot what he said and am really sorry that I didn't watch it and use her actions as a drinking game!
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I am so glad she was able to make it back from Italy and Afghanistan.
Media for her is everything!:rolleyes::eek: