Ford advice and general car sales stories

[finn's mom]

Hey, everyone. Ok, well, my friends pretty much know that I'm not still in the insurance business. I may go back to it at some point, but, I just couldn't keep plugging money into it, and, getting nothing out of it. It stunk walking away from it, though, because I was really enjoying the actual job.

But, I'm attempting something new again. There's a Ford dealership here in Columbia that had an advertisement on the radio for salespeople. They were to be paid salary, and, no commission. So, I applied. I got hired, along with another girl, who's quickly become a great friend, it's fantastic. The pay scale, if anyone's confused, is set up so that we don't try to sell a Mustang to someone who can afford a Focus. ;) The salespeople don't actually negotiate price, it's pretty nifty. And, just makes it more customer service out there on the lot. Customers really respond well to it, from what I've seen. I know my parents loved it, that's why they bought their Mustang from this place, and, not somewhere else.

Anyway...my request now is that I'd like to hear what you guys like about your Fords, and, what you think makes them better than other vehicles. I just want some different perspectives. If you hate Ford, that's fine, too. Everyone has their loves and hates. I'd rather not hear about the one Ford you drove that was a lemon, and, therefore all Fords suck. ;) But, if you feel the need to share that, that's fine. Y'all can be as general or as specific as you want...and, I'm learning the lingo, so, if you wanna throw things out there like torque, MacPherson struts, AWD, ABS, etc...I either will know what you're talking about or I'll find out. :)

I'd also like to hear about car sales experiences, good and bad. I really want to hear from the consumer side of it, what would make it a good experience, what would make you turn your nose up at the dealership.... And, obviously, leaving you totally alone isn't going to happen. ;) I'm always going to at least greet people on the lot and let them know that I'm there.

So, there it is. Just asking for a little insight...I appreciate anyone who takes the time to read all this, truly I do. I don't expect many responses, but, sometimes, I'm surprised, even in Pet Talk. If I get one response that will help me make a customer more comfortable or if I learn a new way of saying something, than it's all been worth the time it took to type this. :)

[NoahsMommy]

How cool that you wanted to learn more...that makes me believe you're a good employee. Most people would just go to work and come home. The end. That's great. :)

UM, I've never had a Ford, so I can't help you with that part.

But...I can share car buying experiences:

*I HATE when they don't acknowledge you...especially when you're young. LOTS of people have been working since they were 16 and can afford a car. I remember going to an Acura and an Audi place and was TOTALLY ignored. A salesman walked by, looked at us and kept walking. We could have afforded a car there but were so offended, we went to Honda!

*We went to two dealerships when we got my latest Civic. At BOTH places, our salesperson showed us pictures of his family/life. It was painfully obvious that was a sales tactic. Know that people shop around and will notice that stuff.

*When its a first car, make a big deal about it! My friend's first car was a new Saturn. They took pictures of her...made a big fuss...she...and I...will never forget it.

I think that's it. I LOVE the idea of a non-commission car salesperson. I wish you lots of luck and success! :)

[finn's mom]

Wow, Kelly, thank you! I especially like the idea of making a big fuss about the new car by taking pictures and everything. That's a great idea. I'll have to put something together. :) We have lockers at work that I can put a padlock on, so, I'll have to keep some things there. Like I said, I will never ignore anyone, even if they want me to. ;) I won't bug people, I will always acknowledge, though. If you've read any of my pet peeves ever, you'll know how I detest not even acknowledgement. it's truly the worst insult, in my opinion. Thank you so much for responding so quickly! :)

[Samantha Puppy]

My parents have been Ford people for as long as I remember. Months after I was born, they got an orange Pinto wagon with wood paneling on the side (QUALITY). That thing lasted from 1978 until my brother ran it into the ground after getting his license. I think it died in 1991.

In 1982, my parents got a Granada. That lasted until 1997. The one problem I had with that specific car was when it got older, it leaked some sort of carbon monoxide smelling odor into the car (we started calling it the CMM - Carbon Monoxide Mobile). It was a good car though and my parents got over 300K on it.

In 1987, my parents got a Ford Ranger pick-up. My dad is STILL driving it. It needs to retire very soon but it still gets him where he needs to go.

In 1997, my parents got a Ford Contour. My mom still drives it and it is doing very well. They have the occasional not-too-big-a-problem issues but what car doesn't once it hits 6-7 years old? It's got almost 200K on it and it's doing just fine.

My first car was a Cavalier (Chevy) and my current car is a Tribute (Mazda) so I can't help you as far as MY cars go. Fords are good cars if you take care of them - my parents are proof enough of that.

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by Samantha Puppy
Fords are good cars if you take care of them - my parents are proof enough of that.

Yeah, my parents have been Ford people for as long as I can remember. My dad has never kept cars for more than three years, though, so, I can't relate to the having cars forever thing. ;) He pays them off and gets new ones. Dork. ;) My escort hasn't been very well taken care of by me, and, is doing just fine. I feel bad for not taking better care of it, and, considering that...it's got 115,000 miles on it, and, it's a '99. It'd be in even better shape, though, had I not run it so hard. :( Poor little thing. I love my car, though...I really want to check out either an F150, Ranger, or an Escape. I'd like something I can carry a kayak or a bike in, and, of course, Finn. :)

[JenBKR]

Congrats on the new job! That's exciting, and I agree that it's great that you want to learn more. I think it's great that it's non-commission too. My only advice really is not to be phony or pushy. I have had both. Be nice, but don't go overboard - does that make sense? Good luck, let us know how it goes!

[Ginger's Mom]

I initially didn't think I would have anything to suggest, but Kelly's post did make me think of something. I remember one time I was looking for a new car, I was in my early thirties, and I was talking to the salesman about a particular car, and he said to me, "Do you need to discuss this purchase with anyone else?" (i.e. a husband). To be honest I was offended and decided right then and there that I was not going to buy a car off of that man.

[catnapper]

I had a Ford once a long long time ago. I loved the car and still ache inside when I see one just like it on the road. There was nothing I hated about it... it just died and I had to get a new one.

What I also liked when I bought it was the salesman. He seemed to really listen to what I had to say and thats about all I remember from the experience -- too long ago! :D

My current car dealer - my Saturn dealer, Clarence, is AWESOME! He knows me when I walk into the dealership and remembers our past conversations. When we ran into each other in a store, he remebered me outside the dealership and said "hiya Kim, how are things?" EVERYONE at the dealership is like that. They are friendly, down to earth people who genuinely love their job and love the people they get to meet. No slick sales tactics. No slimy feelings from any of them. No pressure. Just a person who's willing to answer your questions and help you make the right choice for you.

Best advice for you? Go visit OTHER car lots and pretend to be a buyer. Watch them... see what they do that you DO like. See what they do that makes your skin crawl. Learn from them.

[Logan]

Congratulations on the new job. This sounds like it is right up your alley, Kari. :)

I have always purchased my cars from people I know (lots of friends and family in the auto business), so I've not had to deal with salespeople that I didn't already know very much.

When I lived in Lexington/Columbia, we bought our first Ford from Ben Satcher Ford in Lexington. It was a 1992 Crown Victoria. We knew the dealer well, went to church with him, went to Clemson with his sister and she married one of our best friends, yada yada yada. Even after my divorce, I continued to deal with them. They were always so helpful when I had repair issues, they knew me by name and always took good care of me. I traded in the Crown Vic for a 1995 Contour with a stick shift and boy did I love that car! I even ordered it just like I wanted it, sunroof, leather interior, etc and I drove it for 4 years. By that time, I had moved to Greenville and dealt with a family member who owns a Chrysler and Ford dealership in Clinton. I have purchased a used Ford Taurus from him that I drove for work for several years, as well as two Jeep Grand Cherokees (had to have something to haul all those dogs in ;) ). Even though he sells Ford cars, he more highly recommended that I try the Jeep and I did love it and ended up buying that second one about 4 years ago.

My husband traded in an older model Jeep Cherokee for a 2002 Ford Expedition after we got married. Biggest complaint I have about that car is the lack of space for storage when all 3 seats are up. It certainly is spacious, otherwise, and really has given us no problems. It has close to 90,000 miles on it now (he drives a lot for work), and I love it when he has to fly somewhere and I get to drive it! :)

Be yourself when dealing with people, and I would suggest studying up to be as knowledgeable as possible about the various models you are selling, how they compare to similar cars offered by other dealerships (Chevrolet, Chrysler, Honda, etc). I'm sure you will be trained to learn more about features on cars that you might not normally know. If you aren't offered that training, ask for it! Might even be good for you to spend a day in the service dept to see what kind of issues come up on cars, how the warranties work, etc. The more you know and understand, the better you'll be.

I wish you the BEST of luck!

Logan

[DJFyrewolf36]

Wow, you've gotten a lot of great advice!!

I have to admit though, I used to H-A-T-E Fords. The saying "Fix Or Repair Daily" was common with the majority of Fords I had delt with. Then I got my Festiva...

For all the pounding that car has taken (Close to 112k HARD miles on it, its a 93) it's been nothing but reliable. I've had to replace parts on it, but nothing that you wouldn't replace on a normal matainance schedule. She's given her heart and soul for me, and has saved my butt a few times too. I LOVE that darned car! Everyone I know who owns Festivas has said the same thing, that they just go and go and go and never really give you any c**p about it. The only thing I don't like about the car is that it runs GREAT unless it isn't running at all. It doesn't warn you when it breaks, it just simply stops working :p

My husband has a 78 Ford Currier pickup. This thing has almost 400k on it and is still up and running. It's taken a pounding too, but it keeps coming back for more!

The Ford dealership in town is a bunch of jerks though, at least their parts department is. I called to see about pricing on my Festivas clutch and they told me I should just come in and get another car, as the Festiva is a "throw away" car. :mad: Not to me! And really not to anyone else...I know someone who has a 80 Festiva with its original motor and it still is used as a commuter car.

Hey, maybe you can suggest bringing the Festiva back? ;) Great gas milage, it isnt TOO ugly lol and they're really cheap.

[finn's mom]

Thanks, everyone! I really appreciate all the great advice! This dealership is all about honesty, so, that is the only reason I agreed to trying it...only because I'd heard all car salesmen are sleazes. I never want to be sleazy. :) I'm learning all I can about the cars, and, about cars in general. I hope it is where I should be right now, as I could really use the stability. I haven't had that in a job in a long time.

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by Ginger's Mom
"Do you need to discuss this purchase with anyone else?" (i.e. a husband). To be honest I was offended and decided right then and there that I was not going to buy a car off of that man.

I can totally see how you could be offended by that...but, let me ask for some more advice, then. Because that is a question that we absolutely have to ask. It was the same in the insurance business. There's no point whatsoever in talking to a husband or wife without the other one present...or talking to a 19-year-old without their parent. There are exceptions, but, for the most part, people don't make decisions like that without consulting the other person first. So, my question to you is what would you be more comfortable with, as far as the salesperson finding out if you're going to be the one paying for the car?

[Ginger's Mom]

I am not sure that the question does have to be asked. But let's just say for the moment that it does. I think it may have been better to ask if I was going to be solely responsible for the payment, period. That may be pertinent in working out any type of payment or price range (but not necessarily). But when I go in to buy a car, do not pat me on the head and ask me if I need to check with my husband first. It may be something that needs to be discussed between two people, but I am the one who is here now getting the information we need to make a decision. If you do not want to provide that information to me alone, than that is your loss. Sorry Kari, that is obviously not directed at you, but let me just say that the next time I was looking for a car, I did not go to that dealership.

[Thandi]

Firstly, I'm not a ford lover. Had one in South Africa, nothing but trouble, bought one in the USA, a taurus, had 2 transmissions replaced before I decided it wasn't worth it to get a third!

My very worst was car shopping here, as a 45 year old I'm on the lot and some sleezebag comes up and says "so what can we do for the little lady today?" and another asks where my husband is. Now, I could be some major rich single lady executive who wants to buy a few cars or whatever, and I am treated like a second class citizen of about 5 years old. Car shopping is my very worst thing. I feel filthy by the time I'm away from the clutches of the lying scumbags.

Sorry, that's just the experiences I've had.

[prechrswife]

My dad was a car salesman for years and spent most of that time in Ford dealerships. My first car was a 1989 Escort. The first car that I bought myself was a 1995 Probe. Both of those were great cars. We recently sold the Probe just because it wasn't practical for us anymore (great single person's car), and it is still going strong for its new owner.

I think the best advice I can give is to know your product. My husband and I were shopping for a car several years ago, and we went to one dealership and were working with a salesman who seemed to have no basic knowledge of his product. This was a GM dealership, and we had driven an Oldsmobile Alero rental car several months earlier which we really liked. Because GM had recently announced that they would be phasing out Oldsmobile, we decided that we would be more comfortable with something else. My husband asked the dealer, "Does Pontiac make anything that is comparable to the Alero?" Valid question, considering these are both GM companies. The answer, "What do you mean by that?" Later, we were looking at a Pontiac Grand Prix. My husband asked, "What kind of maintenance record do these cars have?" The salesman asked, "What do you mean?" Eventually, we did decide on a Grand Prix, found a dealership in a neighboring town, and made our purchase from a much more knowledgeable salesman.

[beeniesmom]

Congratulations on your new job. I'm sure you will do well because you have a super personality.

I have to be honest though, I'm not a fan of Fords or actually of american cars in general. I think they are unreliable and leave you stuck in the worst possible moment. I've never had a problem with the Toyota's, Renault, Volkswagon or Rovers I've owned. I sold them because I got tired of them.... not because they've left me stranded. You never see a Toyota stuck on the side of the road hehe.

Anyway, returning to your job, I think the best approach is to be polite and not pushy. Since you don't work for commission, I think you'll do great. When you work on comission, you tend to be more pushy. Good luck and don't worry. You'll be great!

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by Ginger's Mom
I am not sure that the question does have to be asked. But let's just say for the moment that it does. I think it may have been better to ask if I was going to be solely responsible for the payment, period. That may be pertinent in working out any type of payment or price range (but not necessarily). But when I go in to buy a car, do not pat me on the head and ask me if I need to check with my husband first. It may be something that needs to be discussed between two people, but I am the one who is here now getting the information we need to make a decision. If you do not want to provide that information to me alone, than that is your loss. Sorry Kari, that is obviously not directed at you, but let me just say that the next time I was looking for a car, I did not go to that dealership.

I didn't take it personally, don't worry. But, I know, like I said with the insurance thing, they wouldn't even let us visit someone if they couldn't make the decision without someone else being there. It was not good time management to visit a husband without the wife and vice versa. Apparently, it's the same with cars. I wasn't under the impression that the guy asked you if you would need to discuss it with your husband. Sorry, I misunderstood that part. I'm guessing I'm just going to ask every person that comes in if they are going to be the one solely responsible for the vehicle's payments, as I can't spend an hour with someone who can't make that decision alone, ya know? I don't know, I don't think I'll ever ask if someone needs their parent or spouse, though. But, it does seem to happen that all the information given to the person alone usually ends up being repeated to the other person if they indeed do return. I'll just ask a few of the other salesmen what they do...Again, I'm not offended, stuff like this doesn't get to me. You're going to offend someone with something you say, that's just a given. ;) I mean, some people don't want you to even approach them on a lot, whereas most people feel that it's rude not to at least meet and greet them. Can't please everyone. ;) I'll do my best, though!

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by beeniesmom
You never see a Toyota stuck on the side of the road hehe.


Ha ha, that is so funny that you said that! On my way home, I saw a Camry on the side of the road. That sucks that you've had or known of people that have only had unreliable Fords! Or any type of vehicle for that matter. I look at it like with people or animals...no matter how many bad experiences someone may have had with people of the opposite sex or race, or with certain breeds or whatever...it's hard for me to lump them all together. But, like I said earlier, I know everyone has their prejudices against car manufacturers, for one reason or another. ;) I knew that when I started this thread...but, differences is what makes the world go 'round. And, thank you so much, Carmen, for the good luck! I'm trying something new, and, it may not be for me...but, you never know til you try. If it doesn't end up being my cup of tea, I'll just get up and dust myself off...and, try something new. Actually, this is a quote off of a pretty little print I got from A.C. Moore (a craft store)...I thought it fit me perfectly! Hope you like it, too...

"I get up. I walk. I fall down........Meanwhile, I keep dancing."

I love it!

[beeniesmom]

See, you have a great attitude!

As for the Camry on the side of the road.... Ooops, poor guy/gal!

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by beeniesmom
See, you have a great attitude!

As for the Camry on the side of the road.... Ooops, poor guy/gal!

I know, I always feel so bad when that happens. I've had to be picked up once when I picked up a nail and my tire went flat on the highway. That was so fun! ;) And, thank you, Carmen...it's easy to keep a good attitude when you surround yourself with the same. ;)

[JenBKR]

Yikes, hate being stuck on the side of the road. Happened to me once (slid on ice, got a flat tire). My mom's old car broke down pulling out of the mall parking lot once three days before Christmas...she blocked an entire lane until the tow truck came. :o :o

[catnapper]

I understand the whole issue of asking if someone is buying the car alone, or would have to consult with a partner. I've had work in my life where I got all excited over a deal... only to have the wife call me back and say their husband isn't happy with whatever the arrangement might have been. And here I'm only talking about $200, not a $20,000 purchase.

A car is a lot of work, both physically in showing the person the car and paperwork-wise. Its a necessary and very valid question. Perhaps to cut down on the condescending edge to it, you might say "now I hate asking this question, but the dealership requires I ask.... would this purchase be something you are soley responsible for, or do you have a partner that needs to have an opinion?" Hoe can a person take offense to that? Its honest and takes the edge off before you ask. They know that you're uncomfortable asking, therefore making them more comfortable with you, they realize you know the question could be insulting and you are considerate of their feelings.

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by JenBKR
Yikes, hate being stuck on the side of the road. Happened to me once (slid on ice, got a flat tire). My mom's old car broke down pulling out of the mall parking lot once three days before Christmas...she blocked an entire lane until the tow truck came. :o :o

Ouch. Thank goodness I was able to pull over and off the highway completely onto the shoulder. And, my car was only "stranded" for a few hours. ;) I was picked up by my ex husband's niece (the tire went flat about five minutes from her house) about ten minutes after it happened, so, I wasn't out there for very long. Blocking traffic is something I never hope happens to me!

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by catnapper
I understand the whole issue of asking if someone is buying the car alone, or would have to consult with a partner. I've had work in my life where I got all excited over a deal... only to have the wife call me back and say their husband isn't happy with whatever the arrangement might have been. And here I'm only talking about $200, not a $20,000 purchase.

A car is a lot of work, both physically in showing the person the car and paperwork-wise. Its a necessary and very valid question. Perhaps to cut down on the condescending edge to it, you might say "now I hate asking this question, but the dealership requires I ask.... would this purchase be something you are soley responsible for, or do you have a partner that needs to have an opinion?" Hoe can a person take offense to that? Its honest and takes the edge off before you ask. They know that you're uncomfortable asking, therefore making them more comfortable with you, they realize you know the question could be insulting and you are considerate of their feelings.

That's an excellent suggestion. Thank you! And, yeah, I'm learning about all the paperwork, there is a lot of it. ;) And, I remember sitting with this girl and she's already told me before I get down there that she's not married...so, I go and talk to her for a couple hours about insurance. THEN she tells me she can't even tie her shoes without daddy's permission. Argh. Ha ha, it wasn't that big of a deal at that point, but, it would have been nice to know so that I could have scheduled the appointment with her and her dad.

And, it's not like if someone tells me they'd have to wait for their spouse or parent or whoever to make the decision...I won't just walk off because they're not buying a car that day. But, I won't spend an hour with them going over every detail or whatever, either...because again, I'd have to go over it all again if the other person comes back. The only thing I know for sure I'm good at at this point is customer service. The car thing will definitely be a challenge and a learning experience for me. :)

[JenBKR]

Originally posted by finn's mom
Ouch. Thank goodness I was able to pull over and off the highway completely onto the shoulder. And, my car was only "stranded" for a few hours. ;) I was picked up by my ex husband's niece (the tire went flat about five minutes from her house) about ten minutes after it happened, so, I wasn't out there for very long. Blocking traffic is something I never hope happens to me!

I know, that would be really embarrasing!

[JenBKR]

Originally posted by finn's mom
And, it's not like if someone tells me they'd have to wait for their spouse or parent or whoever to make the decision...I won't just walk off because they're not buying a car that day. But, I won't spend an hour with them going over every detail or whatever, either...because again, I'd have to go over it all again if the other person comes back. The only thing I know for sure I'm good at at this point is customer service. The car thing will definitely be a challenge and a learning experience for me. :)

That would be frustrating, and a waste of time. I like catnapper's idea :)

[catland]

First, I think its great that you show an interest in being good at your job and are seeking advice.

As for the married thing - you could ask "and who is going to be the primary driver?" - followed by "just as a formality, is there anyone else who's name will be on the paperwork?"

I think one big thing would be to be honest and not bluff when you don't know the answer to something. If you can't answer the question - saying "I don't know, let me find out" is much better than a b.s. answer.

Another thing I don't like is when salespeople bash another brand. Especially if its a brand that I own or have owned. Say for example that I was trying to decide between an Explorer and a Honda Pilot - I would have much more respect for the salesperson who said - "yes, the Honda is also an excellent choice".

anyway, best of luck to you in your new job.

:)

[JenBKR]

Originally posted by catland
Another thing I don't like is when salespeople bash another brand. Especially if its a brand that I own or have owned. Say for example that I was trying to decide between an Explorer and a Honda Pilot - I would have much more respect for the salesperson who said - "yes, the Honda is also an excellent choice".

anyway, best of luck to you in your new job.

:)

I totally agree, the bashing almost sounds desperate...

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by catland
First, I think its great that you show an interest in being good at your job and are seeking advice.

As for the married thing - you could ask "and who is going to be the primary driver?" - followed by "just as a formality, is there anyone else who's name will be on the paperwork?"

I think one big thing would be to be honest and not bluff when you don't know the answer to something. If you can't answer the question - saying "I don't know, let me find out" is much better than a b.s. answer.

Another thing I don't like is when salespeople bash another brand. Especially if its a brand that I own or have owned. Say for example that I was trying to decide between an Explorer and a Honda Pilot - I would have much more respect for the salesperson who said - "yes, the Honda is also an excellent choice".

anyway, best of luck to you in your new job.

:)

Yeah, I totally agree with you. I told the interviewer that I won't lie to or cheat anyone. If I can't have integrity with this, I don't want to be a part of it. He liked my answer, they've fired people for lying to customers. About the product and other things as well. It's a very open, honest dealership, on and off stage. ;)

And, trust me, I'll be real honest with people as far as my experience goes, and, I will be having to get the answers to many things at first. I won't bs anyone, though.

Last thing, about the car bashing. I have always felt this way (about everything)...if you can't make yourself or a product or your favorite sports team look good on your own...without having to say something or someone else sucks, then there's something wrong with that. It's always bugged me. Root for your team, you don't have to boo someone else's. ;) I mean, I'm all for comparing facts...like this engine has more torque than that one, this car has a better safety rating...you get more miles to the gallon with this car, etc...I don't see anything wrong with that, those are facts. But, I hope to never get to the point where I trash talk other vehicles. It's never been my style, and, I hope to keep my personality throughout this venture. ;)



Thanks again, everyone, for such amazing advice! I'm surprised by all the replies, but, so grateful! Maybe if this goes well, I'll finally be able to participate in a gift swap! :)

[JenBKR]

I think you'll do great at this job. The dealership sounds honest and reliable - I think we need more of those! Be yourself and keep your personality, and of course keep us updated! :) Good luck!

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by JenBKR
I think you'll do great at this job. The dealership sounds honest and reliable - I think we need more of those! Be yourself and keep your personality, and of course keep us updated! :) Good luck!

Thank you...I really hope I don't fail at it like I did with the insurance thing. Although I wouldn't have stopped selling insurance if I'd had the money to keep at it. Maybe one day. But, at least with this job, I've already gotten a paycheck. That's one major difference. ;) It does feel a little more comfortable and structured, though, so, that helps a lot. I'll be sure to let y'all know when I sell my first car! Hopefully next week...after this week of shadowing other salespeople. :)

[JenBKR]

Nah, I think that's two different things...it's really hard to stay at something when you don't get a steady paycheck and have to put money into it...you would really have to love it (and have a back-up plan for money!).

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by JenBKR
Nah, I think that's two different things...it's really hard to stay at something when you don't get a steady paycheck and have to put money into it...you would really have to love it (and have a back-up plan for money!).

Yeah, you're right. I did love it, but, the back up plan for money depleted quickly. ;)

[catnapper]

Hmmm.... just a side question.... sounds like you'll do GREAT at this job. I think you have the enthusiasm and personality to be a real success at the dealership.

So, do you want me to hold Angel and Flutter for you until you're ready? ;) LOL... just kidding. Kind of. :p

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by catnapper
Hmmm.... just a side question.... sounds like you'll do GREAT at this job. I think you have the enthusiasm and personality to be a real success at the dealership.

So, do you want me to hold Angel and Flutter for you until you're ready? ;) LOL... just kidding. Kind of. :p

Ack, I was actually thinking of that, too! Have they not had anyone interested in them? :( I don't understand that at all. But, trust me, if I get to a place of my own, and I know that I can get Finn acclimated to cats again, I'll be giving you a shout. How old are they now?

[catnapper]

Actually no interest. People hear that Angel has a diarreah issue and they run. They dont stop to consider it something she'll either outgrow or something that is completely controllable through diet :( It also seems nobody wants a 3-legged kitten.

Both girls were born in March. Flutter in early March, Angel a few weeks later. I had their birthdates and lost them :o

Both girls know big dogs and leave them alone. They wouldn't bother Finn in the least. ;)

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by catnapper
Actually no interest. People hear that Angel has a diarreah issue and they run. They dont stop to consider it something she'll either outgrow or something that is completely controllable through diet :( It also seems nobody wants a 3-legged kitten.

Both girls were born in March. Flutter in early March, Angel a few weeks later. I had their birthdates and lost them :o

Both girls know big dogs and leave them alone. They wouldn't bother Finn in the least. ;)

I'm seriously working on a friend of mine with no pets. I know that he's not the best with taking care of pets, he says he'd forget about them. dork. But, if I could get him to keep them in his home until I could move into my own place (it's been thrown around that I actually could rent a condo from him), that could work. I'd be taking care of them, just they couldn't be in my home with me and parents yet. I could get Finn used to their smell and stuff. Oh, gosh, I need to shut up and stop thinking about them. That sucks that no one wants a three legged kitten. How stupid is that. The diarrhea thing makes me nervous, I can tell you that. What kind of diet is keeping it under control anyway?

[chocolatepuppy]

I think it's great you're getting all the info you can about your job! Hubby and I have two Ford Rangers, a 1999 extended cab and a 2005. We've also had a 2 1994's, 1991, 1987, all little Rangers, and a 1976 full size. We love Ford trucks. Can't help you any with cars. ;) Good luck with your job! :D

[Lady's Human]

Get very familiar with the product. Start picking up copies of Automobile or Car and Driver, and read them cover to cover.

When people ask you about the Ford 500 (not the prettiest piece of sheet metal on the road, but a VERY well engineered car) Just remind them that it's a Volvo but they're getting it at about $10,000 less than the Volvo. The 500 is a Volvo Sedan with Ford design and a ford engine/Transmission.

Fords are good vehicles (there are really no BAD vehicles anymore, the trash has been weeded out by competition), but Ford Motor Credit is a nightmare to deal with from a customer standpoint.

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by Lady's Human
Get very familiar with the product. Start picking up copies of Automobile or Car and Driver, and read them cover to cover.

When people ask you about the Ford 500 (not the prettiest piece of sheet metal on the road, but a VERY well engineered car) Just remind them that it's a Volvo but they're getting it at about $10,000 less than the Volvo. The 500 is a Volvo Sedan with Ford design and a ford engine/Transmission.

Fords are good vehicles (there are really no BAD vehicles anymore, the trash has been weeded out by competition), but Ford Motor Credit is a nightmare to deal with from a customer standpoint.

Yeah, I plan to read up as much as I can. :) I have access to both magazines, and, the internet.

I actually think the Five Hundred is attractive. It's really roomy and safe and has a giant trunk. It's definitely attracting attention, but, beauty certainly is in the eyes of the beholder. ;)

That sucks that you had such a bad time with Ford Motor Credit, I never had anything but good customer service when I was paying for my Escort. And, I agree with you about the no BAD vehicles thing for the most part, too. :)

Thanks again everyone for such thoughtful advice!

[Karen]

I grew up in Ford family. Though we joked "Found On Road Dead" all the first cars I drove were Fords.

(I now drive a Honda, but Dad doesn't have to worry when I call ... he's not expected to be able to fix Rice-burners.)

I can only say that the Fords I personally owned (and I'm counting a couple Mercury products in there, as we all know they're Ford's in cheaper clothing) were all at least 11 years old when I GOT them, and were good cars. They were cars with character, yea, but if you knew how to talk to them right, they'd just keep running. And running and running and (*&$% - reattach the durned vacuum hose) running.

And while a certain individual may not mention it, I was glad his Escort was built well enough so that, when he rolled it after hitting black ice on an exit ramp at o'dark hundred, he was able to walk away.

And as a matter of fact, glad that Grandpa's '69 Ford Falcon, which by the time I was in college had been passed down to my big sister, was sturdy enough so that when we were hit at highway speeds on the passenger door - where I was sitting, I just kinda bounced and ended up in the middle person's lap.

[caseysmom]

Not to hijack this thread but if I was closer to flutter I would love to take her (with catnapper's blessing). I have wanted another kitty since my rb gigi passed away in February. I have been dragging my feet because of the little terror puppy.....

I thought he was out of his puppy chewing stage and I put 3 expensive school books on the floor, off of the couch and he chewed all the corners:rolleyes:

I would not have any problem with the 3 legs and my casey has the same sensitive tummy so that is no problem either.

[catnapper]

Hijack away ;) LOL... we NEED to get her or her sisters a home! I'm sure the PT family could somehow connect to make her travel across country possible!

Have you heard about Elfie and Nessa, Flutter's sisters who also are missing a leg? OMG... if you want a lap cat, Elfie is THE choice! I am totally in love with this little sleek black panther girl! She's still unsure about Nicki, but we've gotten to the nose-to-nose point and she's interested. I'm sure she'd be fine with Casey in no time.

Then I also have Nessa. She is so very shy but incredibly loving. If you have a husband, she'd definately become HIS cat. For some reason she responds to men better. But that doesn't mean she's not loving to women - in fact she LOVES to be loved no matter who holds her! She has the sweetest face with the sweetest expressions. And you have to love the little tufts of fur at the top of her ears! :D She's still comign out of her shell, but I think once completely out she'd also be a constant lap kitty.

One thing about Flutter -- she is NOT a lap kitty. She is the typical tortie personality. She "complains" all the time when I pick her up for loving but at the same time is eating up every second of it :rolleyes: She she woke me this morning at 6:00 for pets and then when I picked her up, she complained but then begged for loving immediately afterwards :rolleyes: *giggle*

How could anyone resist any of those three girls????

[catnapper]

Hey - I was thinking about this today ---- how's the job coming? Still doing it? loving it? Hating it? Inquiring minds want ot know! :D

[finn's mom]

Hey - I was thinking about this today ---- how's the job coming? Still doing it? loving it? Hating it? Inquiring minds want ot know! :D

Heck no, I only made it a month! :) That's cool that you remembered, though. The training wasn't what they promised, and, I just don't know cars, so I needed all the training I could get. But, the probationary period ended, and, they said I wasn't cutting it. I left on great terms and still see everyone about once a week. Well, except the last month, since I've been sick. But, I will go up there again soon. it was fun, but, not something I was very good at. It would have taken me awhile longer to learn the products and cars in general. But, it was a good move on my part, as I met an amazing family. :) Not a waste of time, that's for sure.

[anna_66]

New job hu? Sorry I'm just seeing this but ...Congrats! Sounds like a pretty good job.

If your still looking for advice...
Don't ignore someone just because they come in driving a beater. This DOES NOT mean that they can't afford a car.
Obviously they want to get a new/used car if they are looking!

When we bought our Durango we drove to the car lots in Mark's 1980 something rusted out Cavalier. Most of the places wouldn't even come up to us :rolleyes: Guess they thought we couldn't afford a new car:o
When we found a place that did, that's where we bought our new car!

[finn's mom]

New job hu? Sorry I'm just seeing this but ...Congrats!


Nah, this was back in august...I only made it a month! ;) Ha ha, but, thanks! :)

[anna_66]

Oops sorry:o :p

[finn's mom]

Oops sorry:o :p

It's ok. ;)

[Maya & Inka's mommy]

My brother-in law has a garage. He sells new cars (all Ford's), and repairs damaged cars. So, half of my family is driving a Ford ;) :D
My Ford is a Ford Focus. When I bought it 6 years ago, we had a long talk with him about what I wanted, and what we could afford. As my kids were growing up then, I wanted a 5-doors. The info I got was VERY good! And the car is still perfect to me!!

May I give you an advize? When the buyers come to pick up their new car, be sure to explain EVERY button in the car! My brother-in-law didn't do that at all. So I had to find out the hard way :rolleyes: ! My hubby had same problem with his last Ford (he is driving a Lexus now). We were on vacation far away from home. Suddenly, we couldn't start the car anymore. NOTHING at all! After 2 long days, we finally discovered that Bernard had slammed the trunk really hard to get it closed (lots of suitcases). By doing this, he activated a system that stops the engine when the car has an accident....! If we had known that then, we could have pushed that tiny button in the trunk, and everything would have been fixed in 5 seconds!!

Good luck with your job!!

ps. My husband bought a Lexus, because Lexus and Toyota, is one of his major clients (audit)