look how much they have changed!

[lute]

i was online checkin some stuff out and i noticed how much the corgi has changed since the 1920's

1920-
http://www.the-welsh-corgi-club.co.uk/archives/pembrokeshire/archives_photos/phoebe.jpg

2000-
http://www.the-welsh-corgi-club.co.uk/archives/combined_cannine_club/alan_mathews.jpg

[heinz57_79]

Wow! My low-riders had legs at one point! hehe What a difference..... :eek:

[BCBlondie]

:eek: Oh wow!!!

[K9soul]

That's quite a change! I know rough collies have changed a lot since the early 1900s as well, much longer, slimmer heads now than they used to have. They used to be built more like a BC.

It makes me wonder how some of the breeds today will look 50-100 years from now.

[lute]

i don't like the way AKC changes the way a breed looks. that do that to alot of breeds.

[Karen]

I agree! I know a Corgi who cannot climb stairs - her legs are just too short, and once she hit adulthood and put on an extra teeny bit of weight, she just can't do it! Seems like a bad idea to me ...

of course, so do the goofy haircuts some dogs get for "show" purposes ...

"improving the breed" says who???

Not that Corgis are not completely adorable either way, just to make myself clear to today's Corgis ...

[wolfie]

Originally posted by lute
i don't like the way AKC changes the way a breed looks. that do that to alot of breeds.

Me neither. I feel bad for dogs that have such bad health problems just because they're bred for certain looks. Like pugs with breathing problems, and corgis and doxies with back problems.

[K9soul]

A lot of US German Shepherds have horrible hip problems because of the breeding for that "shepherd stance" in the show ring with the kind of sloping back.. I don't know how to describe it exactly. I once knew a woman who had a few shepherds that she did Schutzhund (sp?) with and she said she always got her shepherds from Germany because of the poor breeding in the US.

I agree, I love how a lot of the breeds look either way, but breeding and breeding to get some certain point just the way someone wants to see it I think causes a lot more harm than good. I know collies, for one, have a lot more eye problems since they have bred them to have such long, narrow skulls, but keeping those "almond" shaped eyes. It is believed borzoi were bred with the collies of old to develop the finer muzzle, but borzoi have large round eyes in that thin skull.

You just never know what effects will come into play.

[cali]

there is a reason why I am against AKC(some other KCs are alright because they require the dog to prove that it can do what it was bred for, while AKC litterally flat out refused)
check out this site, it shows what the AKC did to the bull terriers head in less then 50 years.

I love the article lol and read the terrier thing they have at the bottom its hilarious and so true!

rosetts to ruin (http://www.terrierman.com/rosettestoruin.htm)

HEAD: should be strong, and encased in the skull should be a brain capable of showing intelligence and a fair amount of obedience and respect with some affection.

NECK: should be strong and muscular, joining the head to the body.

CHEST: should be big enough to hold the heart of a lion, but small enough to enable its owner to follow the quarry into extremely tight corners.

LEGS: should be long, or short, according to the work envisaged by the terrain of the area where he is to be employed. The legs should be powerful enough to carry the owner through a hard day.

FEET: four, one at the end of each leg, with extremely tough pads.

COAT: whether rough or smooth, white or colored, should be dense and tight, to keep its wearer warm and facilitate cleaning without holding too much earth and water.
BACK: strong and supple.

TAIL: for preference, a working terrier should have a tail.

EYES: of great assistance above ground.

EARS: yes, two.

NOSE: should be able to detect and evaluate any slight scent.

TEETH: should be as large and as strong as possible, firmly secured in a muscular jaw, capable of biting powerfully and holding a firm grip.

[cali]

here we go, this is a true Collie, all but extict thanks to the lassie collie

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images7/Scotch_colliesiena3.jpg

[binka_nugget]

Wow! :eek:

I thought I'd post this as well.. This is a german shepherd before the second world war:
http://www.realgsd.info/GSDinfo/History/im/Pfeffer.jpg

Today's (American) Gsd
http://www.realgsd.info/GSDinfo/History/im/AmChgrey.jpg

I've read somewhere that they're literally becoming crippled because of the sloppy back fad.

Here's a comparison of an American GSD and a German GSD. The left one was bred under ckc/akc rules. The right one was bred under SV rules (MUCH stricter than the CKC/AKC)
http://www.realgsd.info/GSDinfo/GerAm/im/2heads2.jpg

[K9soul]

Originally posted by cali
here we go, this is a true Collie, all but extict thanks to the lassie collie

Actually, the very first Lassie collie in the original Lassie Come Home movie looked quite a bit like that. Other things I have read said the collies began to change before Lassie's time... Lassie just made them more popular for pets in American households, but I do not know that the hollywood lassie influenced breeding.

[cali]

lol my lassie collie I just mean the show collies lol its habit from a border collie board, we call them "lassie collies" otherwise noone knows what you are talking about lol