Pepsi, god and cold hard cash.

[RICHARD]

Pepsi, in all their wisdom, has placed the Pledge of Allegiance on the cans of their product.

But they took two words, 'under god' out of the pledge because they didn't want to offend anyone.....

I think we should stop buying Pepsi products because, after all, doesn't all our money say,
In God We Trust???

I would not want to upset Pepsi by giving them my hard earned cash with such a slogan on it...... :confused: :eek: :rolleyes: :p :)

[Corinna]

I haven't bought Pepsi since the Brittney ads Cokeacola for me.

[trayi52]

Ooh, don't want to offend Pepsi!!

[Kfamr]

I can't stand Pepsi! :p That and Coke are aobut all my father drinks though, it's disgusting.

If I drink it it either has to be soft drink, or really watered down.

Carbonated syrup isn't all that tasty. :p

[PJ's Mom]

Originally posted by RICHARD
Pepsi, in all their wisdom, has placed the Pledge of Allegiance on the cans of their product.

But they took two words, 'under god' out of the pledge because they didn't want to offend anyone.....

Oh good grief!! What is this world coming to? :eek: I'm all for giving everyone their fair share and treating everyone as equals but c'mon...

I'm moving to Australia.

:D

[Edwina's Secretary]

So how do you feel about the American flag plastered all over commercial items? Soda, trash bags, etc, etc, etc. So if I throw my empty can of soda in the recycle bin, will I be arrested for disrespecting the flag?????????????

[2kitties]

I'm afraid I may die without my diet Pepsi so I'll not cut off my nose to spite my face. Stickin' with Pepsi.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by 2kitties
I'm afraid I may die without my diet Pepsi so I'll not cut off my nose to spite my face. Stickin' with Pepsi.

lol,

I have a thing for noses, so leave your's alone!

ES,

I see the Flag plastered over all kinds of things
cans, bottles, bags....that bugs me---

As far as the pledge goes, it's either all or nothing......if you read the link you'll see that the pledge was amended, by law, in the mid 50's
I just think it's a little strange that they would want to change the POA to suit THEIR goals...

There are rules for flag etiquette, but the POA's rules of etiquette are far simpler...

http://www.usflag.org/flag.etiquette.html


http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761554245/Pledge_of_Allegiance_to_the_Flag_of_the_United_Sta tes.html


There is no provisions or rules for the written Pledge........

For example.

Birthday to you, birthday to you,
Birthday to ---------, birthday to you.

The word 'Happy' has been deemed unacceptable by people who are related to terminally depressed folks...I would not want to wish some sad person a happy birthday! How inconsiderate would I be?

;)

[G.P.girl]

i thought this happened like right after 9/11...like 2 years ago..
anyways..i love my pepsi...i hate Coke...the only coke i like better than pepsi is the cherry. but vanilla pepsi is way better than vanilla coke. in fact...i think i'll go drink one now:D

[Dogz]

Originally posted by Kfamr
I can't stand Pepsi! :p That and Coke are aobut all my father drinks though, it's disgusting.


I don't like Pepsi either! I do drink some kinds of pop, but Pepsi is not even close to my first choice.:p

[popcornbird]

I hate Pepsi..........I hate Coke..............they both taste like carbonated cough medicine to me. :o :o (and look like it too)

:p

I'M SERIOUS! LOL

[mugsy]

I like the "under God" in the Pledge, however, like my mother said, the phrase was not there until the 1950s. I am just nasty enough to say leave it in and the whiners who just need something to complain about can just deal with it. You know, taking it out would probably offend more people than leaving it in. I thought we were a democratic republic where the majority took precedence...silly me....

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by mugsy
I thought we were a democratic republic where the majority took precedence...silly me....

YEAH,

what the heck's the matter with you?

[Edwina's Secretary]

And I thought this thread was started by a whine about it being taken out???? I say...why let the Constitution get in the way of public opinion! Without that silly Constitution we could still have "separate but equal" public facilities and racial segregation!

So if you are offended by Under God, no Under God, Pepsi, coke, Valentine's Day, the American flag, the absence of the American flag, greed, profit, non-profit, capitalism, socialism, religion, agnosticism, secularism, commercialism............you're in the right place.

Now, let's all go take a nap. We're getting cranky.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by Edwina's Secretary
And I thought this thread was started by a whine about it being taken out????


So if you are offended by Under God, no Under God, Pepsi, coke, Valentine's Day, the American flag, the absence of the American flag, greed, profit, non-profit, capitalism, socialism, religion, agnosticism, secularism, commercialism............you're in the right place.

Now, let's all go take a nap. We're getting cranky.

Can I have my cheese now?

Citing all kinds of 'isms' off the top of my head would make me dizzy! Hats off to you....

I usually post threads to make people toss out an opinion and get a good discussion going...

I liked the comments about liking coke and pepsi...

If I nap now I won't be able to sleep tonight....
:(


And who brought up valentine's day????:confused:

[RICHARD]

By the way,

A few years ago there was a gent who played with the National Basketball Association.

He refused to stand for the National Anthem.

Now, I respect his right not to stand for it,
But I think the 'smart' thing to do would be to
keep his personal ideals to himself and go along with the program to humor us moron sports fans who took offense.

When asked WHY he didn't stand, he said that he was a Muslim and didn't exactly subscribe to the ideals of the Flag, and what it stood for.

But he didn't mind taking that piece of paper to the bank and trading it for ducats emblazoned with
IN GOD WE TRUST printed on it??

The thing that does REALLY ICE ME are the people who sanctimoniously (not exactly a secular word, forgive me........) stand on the soap box with an opinion then make exceptions for it.

All I am saying is that people have lost the ability to make exceptions for ANY belief they have.....The BB player wanted to make a statement
, and because of his belief he was dropped from the team soon after.

More power to him..he stuck to his guns! That is pretty rare in the sports world.

He lost a great job because he believed in his religious beliefs-But he didn't have common courtesy to stand for a few minutes for a song and
to look at a flag....

For that, I think he is a moron. He could not suspend his belief for a minute and it cost him..

Would I call him a hypocrite for standing?

NO, as a matter of fact I'd respect him more for doing it, even tho it's 'against his religion'.

It's not about whining...it's about people doing things and standing by their decisions, good or bad. But, it's also about thinking about your decisions before you make them...and which side of the brain you use.

:confused:

[mugsy]

Sara, not trying to be cranky, just voicing an opinion...which...as you know, I do on a regular basis. That's why I'm not very popular!

Actually, in the grand scheme of things...does it truly matter? But, it sure is interesting to discuss.

I like BOTH Pepsi and Coke....ever the Libra! lol

[Cinder & Smoke]

Originally posted by RICHARD

Pepsi...
took two words, 'under God', out of the pledge...

Mugsy should be able to help with this...

*I* thought "someone" decided quite a while ago that the phrase
"under God" was to be removed when reciting The Pledge.
:confused:

My Fuzzie Memorie tells me it was especially *important* that
it NOT be said by the School Kids at schools.
The old "Seperation of Church & State" argument -
same lane argument that ruled out any Prayers in school.

IS or is NOT the "under God" phrase being said in the schools???

Bout the only time *I* say The Pledge is when we open a Fire Department
Meeting - and us Dummie FireFighters ALWAYS include
the "under God" phrase!!
WE need all the "Help" we can get - and
sure don't want to leave The Big Man Upstairs out! :) :D

/s/ :confused: Phred

[moosmom]

Miss Edwina,


Now, let's all go take a nap. We're getting cranky.


I'm ready!! Where's my blankie???ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Phred,


WE need all the "Help" we can get - and
sure don't want to leave The Big Man Upstairs out!

AMEN to that!!!

[Edwina's Secretary]

where the majority took precedence

Welllll...if that were the case, George Bush wouldn't be sitting in the White House now would he????? ;) I recollect a majority of those who voted did NOT vote for him!

[mugsy]

Too true Sara....that's the precise reason that I think that the Electoral College should become a thing of the past....it's worn out its welcome and usefulness.



Richard....if the guy doesn't prescribe to the ideals of the Flag, perhaps he should rethink his residence and not spend those evil American dollars.

Phred...I have not heard or been told about taking the words "under God" from the Pledge. Schools just don't say it anymore....sad....isn't it? We have NEVER said it at my school since I started here in 1995.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by Edwina's Secretary
Welllll...if that were the case, George Bush wouldn't be sitting in the White House now would he????? ;) I recollect a majority of those who voted did NOT vote for him!

Time to get Mr Peabody and the Way Back Machine..

http://www.toonopedia.com/peabody.htm


GWB is packing up his bags waiting for the next Tribal council.......Hopefully the next resident
will win in a more decisive manner......

The whole "stole the election" is SOOOOO yesterday.;)

[smokey the elder]

So yesterday? So LAST MILLENIUM!:D :p

[mahayana]

I really enjoy discussions of this kind. Let's see, the issue of separation of Commerce and State sounds interesting. And religion is always good, hah!

From last to first,

The voting machine thing is ongoing. Why not national voter registration for national elections? Is it really that difficult to vote with computers, print out two copies (one for the voter, one for backup ballots)? And why not a Constitutional ammendment for Presidential runoff elections in cases too close to decide?

Frankly, the appearance of impropriety in the 2000 election hurts the US worldwide, besides polarizing our citizens. That anger and guilty gloating still exists, witness this thread.

(second to last)
The phrase "under God" was added under McCarthyist fears about Godless communists. It does violate the Constitution to endorse any religion, on the money, in the "Pledge", plaques of Bible verse in courthouses, etc.

That said, if you check out world religious beliefs ( adherents.com is good) you will find that non-believers account for about 14% worldwide, athiests less than 1%. The question is, how serious are we about keeping religious strife out of democracy?

(third)
Standing for the national anthem was mentioned. Are you aware that some religions (Seventh Day Adventist for one) consider that only pledging allegiance to God is acceptable? That the flag is an idol...you can even live in America and think that nationalism and jingoism are problems. We allow unpopular opinions here.

(Finally) isn't it ironic that patriotic sell would backfire for Pepsi? I guess you can't please everyone! Maybe they should pick some more universal phrases from the Declaration next time. Is Pepsi still an american company, or are they multi-national like so many companies that started here?

Peace