What came first? [Archive]

mugsy

03-30-2003, 06:09 PM

The egg....the chicken came from mutations of other living things while in the egg....it's an evolutionary process so the chicken didn't just appear one day and say, "Howdy!"

iceyshiver21

03-30-2003, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by mugsy
The egg....the chicken came from mutations of other living things while in the egg....it's an evolutionary process so the chicken didn't just appear one day and say, "Howdy!"

My point!! Thats what I was trying to say but couldnt find the words.

Nomilynn

03-30-2003, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by mugsy
The egg....the chicken came from mutations of other living things while in the egg....it's an evolutionary process so the chicken didn't just appear one day and say, "Howdy!"

If you ever have a chicken that knows how to walk around and say "howdy" can I get in on the profits?? ;) :D

jenluckenbach

03-30-2003, 06:21 PM

Soledad

03-30-2003, 06:24 PM

Hmmmm. I'm with the evolution crew.:)

mugsy

03-30-2003, 06:30 PM

Ok, I'll let you know and we can split the profits! ehehe

popcornbird

03-30-2003, 06:57 PM

Well Adam popped out and said Howdy, so the chicken did too! :p

Fuzzy317

03-30-2003, 06:58 PM

I voted the egg. Is the question about any egg or specifically a chicken egg.

If talking about a chicken egg, then it would be the chicken came first.

If talking any egg, then you have two methods of thinking:
1 - using the biblical creation idea, I think the chicken came first
2 - If you use the theory of evolution, then I think it would be the egg came first

bluekat

03-30-2003, 07:08 PM

Hmmmm........I go with the egg. Chickens hatch from eggs, but what made the first egg? If you're talking about any kinds of egg, there were dinosaur eggs, and dinosaurs came before chickens, right? Actually, I'm not sure........are there dinosaur eggs anyways?:confused:

mugsy

03-30-2003, 07:11 PM

Yes, there are dinosaur eggs. A couple of years ago they found an entire hatch of them...embryos and all.

iceyshiver21

03-30-2003, 07:13 PM

:D HAHA this thread has had me ammused for an hour now!! LOL :D

Jessica12345

03-30-2003, 07:26 PM

i have no clue:rolleyes: lol

weiner_teddy

03-30-2003, 07:41 PM

I would say the egg, BUT, then where did the egg come from? Because if the chicken came first, how could the chicken already be grown up to hatch the egg!? AAAHHHH that's such a confusing question, yet very good question!:p

KRISTEN14

03-30-2003, 07:51 PM

chikens can't talk.

iceyshiver21

03-30-2003, 07:54 PM

But what if they could....What would they say??

Jessica12345

03-30-2003, 07:56 PM

dont eat me!

iceyshiver21

03-30-2003, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by Jessica12345
dont eat me!

LOL!! Yah, I soppose! Duh! Im alittle dumb, of course what did I think they'd say? ummm... EAT ME!! :rolleyes:

That would be the 900th stupid post of mine!!

Crikit

03-30-2003, 08:04 PM

I had to pick I don't know only because at the moment I'm slightly tired and my brain is not functioning properly so I've got myself thinking in a little loop, you know it's one of those things where I'm thinking the chicken had to come first because without the chicken there couldn't be an egg but without an egg there couldn't be a chicken, which just leads me back to the beginning, oh with the occasional stop at what would Gonzo say, which has nothing to do with the question.

As for what Chickens would say if they could talk..."Pick another animal to cross the road I'm getting tired."

iceyshiver21

03-30-2003, 08:10 PM

well you got to think that they evolved over the years, the eggs would evolve not the chicken.

03-31-2003, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by popcornbird
Chicken!

The first man was Adam, a grown man. The babies came after.

Its gotta be the same with the chickens! :p

well, that is what I've learned from my religion too!

But, is it true?:confused: :confused: What would Adam have done if he had found a chicken egg? Eat it?? He surely would NOT have eaten the chicken, as he didn't know yet how to kill:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Ha ha, LOL:p :p :p

Cataholic

03-31-2003, 10:09 AM

I think you are ALL wrong....it was either McDonald's Chicken McNuggets, OR the Eggbeaters...

mugsy

03-31-2003, 10:35 AM

Now THAT'S a scary thought!

Christiansmommy

03-31-2003, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by popcornbird
Chicken!

The first man was Adam, a grown man. The babies came after.

Its gotta be the same with the chickens! :p

I agree!

I pretty much think that if you believe in evolution, you would say the egg, if you are a creationist...you would say the chicken.

KRISTEN14

03-31-2003, 12:37 PM

Dose somthing naturally get more perfect all by its self just by sitting there? I don't think so. Everthing naturally gets worse. Fruther more, there is no simple life form. No body has ever made life by just mixing a few things together. It always starts with the life that God created. So it's the chicken.

popcornbird

03-31-2003, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by KRISTEN14
Dose somthing naturally get more perfect all by its self just by sitting there? I don't think so. Everthing naturally gets worse. Fruther more, there is no simple life form. No body has ever made life by just mixing a few things together. It always starts with the life that God created. So it's the chicken.

Well said!

How could an egg, just sitting around, all of a sudden hatch in the open, empty world, alone, with no "adult" to care for it and raise it. It doesn't make sense. It would most definitely die. Then there would be no chicken to start with. :eek: I go with what is concluded from God's words. Adam came before the babies. The chicken came before the eggs! :D The cat came before the kitten. The dog came before the puppies. Its as simple as that! :p:p:p

Logan

03-31-2003, 12:53 PM

Totally agree with you assessment, PCB!!! I just didn't now all of that when I voted "no idea".. :o

iceyshiver21

03-31-2003, 12:54 PM

No the domestic dog had people to care for it. I chicken didnt JUST come out a chicken it turn over into one over the years. Like just say, Fish over time came out of the water and bacame the land animals we have today, and the slowly devoloped wings, then way have one thats not fully devolped...chickens, panquines(sp?) ostriges(sp?). The are still changeing........lost thought. Ok I forgot where I was going with that.

***Ok heres the deal, The "chicken" had to be young once, did it not? The "Chicken" had to come from an egg. The egg came from a bird that was simular to it contributing to the chicken we have today.

popcornbird

03-31-2003, 01:03 PM

Dogs did not come into the world domesticated. They were wild, but the first dogs were still dogs. If the puppy just popped out of nowhere, there would be no one to nurse it, raise it, and would have died before any additional dogs. With that way of thinking, I can only conclude that everything died because no one was there to nurse and raise its helpless self, so all the creature around wouldn't be here to start with. It would be a barren land. :p

As for the egg coming before the chicken, how do you suppose an egg would be laid without a chicken? An egg would be pop out on the floor. No chicken would be there to sit on it (a death sentence for the egg). Obviously, a loner egg cannot hatch, and an egg has to come from the chicken! I have no doubts in my mind that the chicken came first. :p

Kfamr

03-31-2003, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by Cataholic
I think you are ALL wrong....it was either McDonald's Chicken McNuggets, OR the Eggbeaters...

CHICK-FIL-A ALL THE WAY! (www.chickfila.com)

primabella

03-31-2003, 02:42 PM

I heard it was the chicken but my teacher who told me that isn't all there so....

It's a retorical question, there is no answer! ;)

Jessica12345

03-31-2003, 03:14 PM

this thread is to funny:D

Im going with PCB... wow.. you have made some really good points!:D :eek: :p

momoffuzzyfaces

03-31-2003, 03:32 PM

I say chicken because I believe in the Bible and it says God made the animals and birds. It doesn't say nothin' bout no egg!!! Besides without the chicken there would be nothing to sit on the egg and hatch it!!! That's my opinion, and I'm stickin' to it!!!:D

HoRsELUvR

03-31-2003, 03:46 PM

Sometimes I would say the egg came first, but maybe the chicken did.I dont know.How about the chicken came first in the egg?:D

Soledad

03-31-2003, 03:51 PM

I believe the magical egg fairy brought us the egg. So the next question is, where did the magical egg fairy come from?

The Cat Factory

03-31-2003, 03:53 PM

I voted for Egg :)

popcornbird

03-31-2003, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by momoffuzzyfaces
I say chicken because I believe in the Bible and it says God made the animals and birds. It doesn't say nothin' bout no egg!!! Besides without the chicken there would be nothing to sit on the egg and hatch it!!! That's my opinion, and I'm stickin' to it!!!:D

That's what the Quran says too, and I'm sticking to it. The egg couldn't hatch without a chicken sitting on it. The chicken came first, just like Adam came before the babies. If everything started as an egg, it would never have survived, and none of us would even be in existance!

The chicken came first! No doubt in my mind! :p:p:p

popcornbird

04-01-2003, 12:51 PM

So.....................no conclusion yet? ;););)

KRISTEN14

04-01-2003, 01:50 PM

chicken

petlover

11-21-2003, 11:54 AM

The chicken came first. :) I am pretty sure. God made all of the animals from saying a simple sentence. Then, there were animals. INCLUDING chickens. He didn't make an egg first. He put the chicken on the earth with her rooster buddy so that she could LAY eggs and make more chickens. Does that clear everything now?:confused:

trayi52

11-21-2003, 12:35 PM

The Chicken, somebody had to sit on the egg to get it to hatch, and I kinda doubt the Easter Bunny sit on the egg.:D

RICHARD

11-21-2003, 12:45 PM

THE CHICKEN.....

You HAVE to walk past the meat counter before you see the milk/egg fridges in the store that I patronize.
:rolleyes:

Samantha Puppy

11-21-2003, 01:01 PM

Egg!

2kitties

11-21-2003, 01:09 PM

But what if God made the animals as eggs!!

Just joking. I don't have any idea.

HayleyRosie

11-21-2003, 01:30 PM

I would have to say the chicken came first.

G.P.girl

11-21-2003, 07:43 PM

darn! i want to change my vote! if the chicken was first then there would hsve to be a rooster too.:)

Tonya

11-21-2003, 07:57 PM

OMG, I have the funniest cartoon for this specific question. I so wish I could share it, but it's not clean.

mahayana

11-21-2003, 08:31 PM

An interesting question.. In the movie "Angel Heart" it was mentioned that some religions use the egg as a symbol for the soul.

Creatures were laying eggs millions of years before there were chickens.

The first chicken hatched in a nest of similar birds and was raised like the swan in the "ugly duckling" story.

Popcorn- It is not a choice between religion and science. Personal beliefs come from a melding of seemingly contradictory evidence. You are the Crown of Creation!

Twisterdog

11-21-2003, 09:51 PM

An interesting question.. In the movie "Angel Heart" it was mentioned that some religions use the egg as a symbol for the soul.

Eeeeewww, I had forgotten all about that movie until you mentioned it! Man, that dude was CREEEPY! :eek: When I used to have a "real" job, we had a group of auditors come in from our corporate office. The main auditor looked JUST like that creepy guy in Angel Heart ... eeewww, eeewww, eeewwww.

Ooooops, off topic.

;)

Dogz

11-21-2003, 09:58 PM

CHICKEN!

mahayana

11-21-2003, 10:06 PM

Yeah, it was Robert Dinero playing the Devil, Mickey Rourke as the PI and Lisa Bonet as the voodoo child.

You are not really off the subject, chickens played a big part too, if I remember right.;)

CatDad

11-21-2003, 10:14 PM

I have no idea. Although you both have points to be condsidered.

magcpen

11-21-2003, 10:46 PM

The egg. ;)

Dogz

11-21-2003, 10:55 PM

I still say the chicken. I think that God made the chicken before he made an egg.

tikeyas_mom

11-21-2003, 11:07 PM

Chicken came first because then the chicken layed the egg

HoRsELUvR

11-22-2003, 12:06 PM

I said egg,but i guess we'll never know.

mahayana

11-22-2003, 12:29 PM

The first chicken was made from the egg (fertilized reproductive cell) inside the chicken-like bird that laid it later. A gamma ray from the sun likely hit its nucleus and altered its DNA (genetic code), before it divided the first time.

Thus, the first embryo chicken developed inside an egg laid by another bird.

After it hatched and was cared for by another bird (its mother), it successfully mated with a bird (like its father), and laid the first chicken egg. All chickens come from this first mutated bird.

Evolution does not negate creation by God, it just argues that creation is ongoing, not something that was accomplished on a certain date less than 5,000 years ago.:)

Dogz

11-22-2003, 08:20 PM

I still say chicken.:rolleyes:

popcornbird

11-22-2003, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by Dogz
I still say chicken.:rolleyes:

Wow................this thread is old..............but I'm still firm on the *chicken comes first* belief. :p

Dogz

11-22-2003, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by popcornbird
Wow................this thread is old..............but I'm still firm on the *chicken comes first* belief. :p

I know! I just saw that it was bumped up so I replied hehe.;)

mahayana

11-22-2003, 09:30 PM

I lived in Tennessee for many years, the State where the Scope's trial was held. It was against the law to teach the theory of Evolution in public schools there until 1967. They still teach Creationism alongside Evolution there, to this day.

So your views are held by many others.

Do you also believe that the fossils in the rocks of dinosaurs were created when the animals we know today were created?

Just food for thought!

2kitties

11-23-2003, 02:42 PM

I'm going with egg.
I'm tying it to genesis. Adam was made first, not Eve. You have to have the feminine womb to lay the egg. Man could never reproduce, it is the product of reproduction. So, my theory is that God made the egg, the formed the chicken which held the womb to house the egg.