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Kfamr
03-03-2003, 06:29 PM
Ok, I know many of you don't like rap music but it's a question that i think aobut, ALOT. Tupac being one of my idols and all time favorite rappers.... I found a few things on the net I'd like to share that make me think about it more, And i do not beleive he's dead, or have i ever.


Tupac was supposedly shot on September 7th, 1996..... Here's a photo of him live n kickin' on September 8th, 1996...
http://www.2paczone.com/tupac/img/lastpicture.jpg


He was spotted in this photo, which could be fake, who knows.
http://www.2paczone.com/tupac/img/alivepicture.jpg


Many people belive that Tupac faked his own death and is alive today. Some of the belivers thinks that Pac will return the 13th september 2003 after been hiding for 7 years. Here are some theories for you. Some are rather silly, but oh well.

Tupac died at the age of 25. (2+5=7)

Tupac was shot on Sept. 7th

Tupac survived the shooting through the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died on the 13th. (7 Dayz)

Official time of Tupac's death was 4:03 p.m. (4+0+3=7)

Tha' Outlawz consisted of 7 members

In the video Toss It Up, Tupac breaks a mirror at the very end of the video. (7 Years of Bad Luck)

R U STILL DOWN was released on November 25th. Not only the age of his death, but 2+5=7.

Tupac's birthday is on the 16th. (1+6=7)

In the Intro of Makaveli DK 7 Day Theory, there are six gun shots going off, but when the songs starts, there's the 7th.

Tupac died on Friday the 13th.

The cover of Makaveli DK 7 Day Theory holds many hidden icons, and references.

Nothing on the Makaveli CD gives it's respect with R.I.P. Tupac.

The only witness who was going to step up and I.D. the shooter was Kadafi (Yafeu Fula) but he was shot a few months after Tupac.

In the first few seconds of the Makaveli song INTRO/BOMB FIRST, you can hear who is claimed to be Kadafi saying "Suge Shot Me"

Tupac always rapped and did videos on his death, and how his funeral would be. Why was he cremated?




Some more theories, some of Public Enemie's Chuck D's.

1.2Pac died on Friday the 13th...
2.Las Vegas is a payoff City..meaning all sorts
of folks have been known to be on the
take..that means doctors, press, lawyers etc
3.The white cadillac containing the
assailants..was never found... How could
this be when Vegas is in the middle of a
desert?
4.There's a small Black community on the
North side of town.. This strip is only about
8 blocks long.. The attackers were Black..
Where did they go? Where did they hide?
5.The white cadillac containing the gunmen
passes a entourage of 2Pac's boys..many of
them body guards... No one gives
chase..and there are no witness...There
were no witnesses on the street... How
come? Why not?
6.The name of 2Pac's next album is
Makaveli.. He was an Italian war
strategist who faked his death to fool his
enemies... Perhaps 2Pac is doing the same
thing..
7.The cover of his next album..has 2Pac
looking like Jesus Christ... Could he be
planning a resurrection?
8.Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert..
How come there was no helicopter chase...
If some one was to rob a casino.. The
LVPD would've chased you down with
some helicopters.. . How come this didn't
happen with 2Pac shooting?
9.2Pac was cremeated the day after he died...
Since when does some one get creamated
the day after a murder... There was no
autospy
10.There were no ballistic tests... At least we
haven't heard about them....
11.Las Vegas is still very much a mob town..
No one gets killed on the strip... You have
to pretty much get permission in order for
something like this to happen.. Who was
calling the shots on this one?
12.2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge
didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a
bullet.. Why did 2Pac get shot all those
times and Suge not get hit?
13.Suge said he drove 2Pac to the hospital and
they had a coherent conversation? How bad
was 2Pac hit? In addition to all this .. there
are conflicting stories claiming that Quincy
Jone's daughter was in the back of the car..
and then she wasn't.. what's the deal for
real?
14.2Pac has completed 2 movies and 3 lps that
have yet to be realsed.. With so many
people upset about 2Pac's death..literally
anything connected with him is bound to net
a whole lot of cash...
15.Suge Knight and 2Pac are the only two
music industry people on that high a profile
with enough balls to pull off a stunt like
faking death...
16.2Pac's video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold
his death ....
17.2Pac always wore a bullet proof vest but for
some strange reason he didn't wear one this
time.. why not?
18.The memorial services that were open to
the public were cancelled in both Los
Angeles and Atlanta...
19.Makaveli wrote two books before faking
his death entitled Book 1 & Book2. Look
at what the All Eyez on Me disks are called....

20.I have heard that there was a 72 million dollar life insurance policy on him.


What do you think? Either way he's one of the greaatest musicans i've heard.


:D

Jessica12345
03-03-2003, 07:03 PM
i have no idea:rolleyes:



:D :)

zippy-kat
03-03-2003, 07:16 PM
reminds me of a really bad joke....

what is tupac spelled backwards?
caput! (ka-put)


RE: autopsy... I *think* there are some pics running around the net of that... (real? fake? who knows...)

lovemyshiba
03-03-2003, 07:31 PM
interesting..... I don't know.
I guess we'll have to wait and see!!

primabella
03-03-2003, 07:46 PM
it's all just really freaky to me and i have no clue.

Sara luvs her Tinky
03-03-2003, 07:48 PM
WELLLLLLll
If I had to guess... I would say he is alive... call me silly.. just my opinion.

I think he is alive because...

NO. ONE REASON..... *not to sound offensice* How many cd's could a dead person possible put out? There could not have been that many songs that were not recorded.... Kurt Cobain has been dead years too and they only found one song not recorded.

also he has the money to hide out and I am sure enough friends to make sure he does...

and the Makeveli cd.. which is self explanitory.. if you have seen and heard it.

and he was creamated... which big time rapper is not gonna have a HUGE funeral... /open casket/ so his homies can't put something in for him...?

again... just my opinion..

:)

Kfamr
03-03-2003, 07:50 PM
And exactly my thoughts. He's came out with atleast 4 cds since he's been day ALL double albums... which his new album is AWESOME if anyone likes rap :D :D

primabella
03-03-2003, 07:52 PM
that's true. if he's got other CD's out...sara's got a point..lol oh well :D

Nomilynn
03-03-2003, 07:56 PM
I'm not a huge rap fan, but Tupac was one that I really liked. I love the song "I Ain't Mad At Ya"

Sara luvs her Tinky
03-03-2003, 08:08 PM
And exactly my thoughts. He's came out with atleast 4 cds since he's been day ALL double albums... which his new album is AWESOME if anyone likes rap

so i take it you think he is alive too? :)

Kfamr
03-03-2003, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by Sara luvs her Tinky


so i take it you think he is alive too? :)

Yup. I never thought he was dead. I'd love to meet him.. His songs mean alot to me. :) Of course i'd LOVE to meet Nelly also.;)

Sara luvs her Tinky
03-03-2003, 08:33 PM
I wonder if he had any type of plastic surgery to help hide...
or if he bought some super secret island and is hiding out there?!?!? ;)

Karen
03-03-2003, 08:53 PM
I sincerely doubt he's still alive.

Every artists rehearses many songs/many takes that do not make it onto each album. Releasing more albums/songs does not mean he is still alive. He was a talented, puplar recording artists, so all his takes, all his tapes would have been saved for each session.

The "time/date stamp" on the photo supposedly taken means nothing. Many many people have their cameras set to the wrong date, and have no idea how to change it. And dates being put onto a photo are very easy to fake. The photo of him in a crowd is of poor quality, so even easier to fake.

Why would his family lie about his death? His friends? How would he benefit? Why hide? It's not like he was a criminal on the FBI most-wanted list or Interpoll's either. It is not like he was only marginally popular before his death, so faking death would prompt some kind of record sales ...

How can you prove anyone is alive?

COCatMama
03-03-2003, 09:12 PM
Sorry kiddo but Tupac is d-d-d-dead :( another waste of a young life, siiiiighhhh

Kfamr
03-03-2003, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by Karen
I sincerely doubt he's still alive.

Every artists rehearses many songs/many takes that do not make it onto each album. Releasing more albums/songs does not mean he is still alive. He was a talented, puplar recording artists, so all his takes, all his tapes would have been saved for each session.

The "time/date stamp" on the photo supposedly taken means nothing. Many many people have their cameras set to the wrong date, and have no idea how to change it. And dates being put onto a photo are very easy to fake. The photo of him in a crowd is of poor quality, so even easier to fake.

Why would his family lie about his death? His friends? How would he benefit? Why hide? It's not like he was a criminal on the FBI most-wanted list or Interpoll's either. It is not like he was only marginally popular before his death, so faking death would prompt some kind of record sales ...

How can you prove anyone is alive?

He had so many people who actually wanted to kill him when he supposedly died. Another question, can you prove that he IS dead?

Karen
03-03-2003, 09:21 PM
I do not have a DNA sample of his, nor a sample of his ashes, nor the ability to compare them. I therefore cannot prove that he alive or dead.

Soledad
03-03-2003, 09:23 PM
I can't prove it, but I believe he's dead. It's just good PR to keep his record sales going. After all, people out there STILL believe that Elvis is alive...:rolleyes:

Karen
03-03-2003, 10:24 PM
P.S. Soledad, the first time I saw your current signature picture, I was too distracted by Boo's loveliness to notice it was yours, and was Boo!

There are people who believe Marilyn Monroe is still alive, and JFK, and all sorts, but Elvis is the most common, I think! :)

COCatMama
03-03-2003, 10:40 PM
funny, you asked me to down-size my sig images and yet you say nothing about the size of hers...hmm
sorry had to say it.

shais_mom
03-03-2003, 11:54 PM
Sorry kiddo but Tupac is d-d-d-dead another waste of a young life, siiiiighhhh
agreed

Another question, can you prove that he IS dead?
I do not have a DNA sample of his, nor a sample of his ashes, nor the ability to compare them. I therefore cannot prove that he alive or dead.

You are asking the wrong person, you asked for an opinion and you got one.
And I agree with Karen.

ramanth
03-04-2003, 09:16 AM
Why would someone cause that much pain to their family and friends?

I could never fake my death knowing the grief it would cause my parents.

Faking your death is selfish IMHO.

slleipnir
03-04-2003, 10:10 AM
To tell you the truth, I've never heard of him before :rolleyes: lol

Ann
03-04-2003, 10:55 AM
I honestly can't say I care if he's dead or alive but as for all that number stuff you posted: You can get anything out of those things. I've seen people add together all these September 11 numbers to get 666 (mark of the beast/number of the devil/whatever) and I've seen people add together numbers in the Bible to get the date of Armageddon and so on. My point is that you can get anything out of that.

Karen
03-04-2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Lalania
funny, you asked me to down-size my sig images and yet you say nothing about the size of hers...hmm
sorry had to say it.

You had several images that added up to too much bandwidth. One image can be less than 25k and still be large visually, it depends on the image and what compression scheme it uses, etc.

And I still believe Tupac is dead.

shais_mom
03-04-2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Ann
I honestly can't say I care if he's dead or alive but as for all that number stuff you posted: You can get anything out of those things. I've seen people add together all these September 11 numbers to get 666 (mark of the beast/number of the devil/whatever) and I've seen people add together numbers in the Bible to get the date of Armageddon and so on. My point is that you can get anything out of that.
EXCELLANT POINT ANN!!!!
My sentiments precisely!!!!!

Kfamr
03-04-2003, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by slleipnir
To tell you the truth, I've never heard of him before :rolleyes: lol

He's an awesome rapper and an awesome lyricist [sp?] Tupac is known as 2 Pac[how it's normally spelt]

Kfamr
03-04-2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by shais_mom
[b]
You are asking the wrong person, you asked for an opinion and you got one.
And I agree with Karen.

And I know that.:rolleyes:

shais_mom
03-16-2003, 05:11 PM
After some deep thinking with other PT members. I have decided that:


Tupac is alive, he and Elvis are together and are going to unite and overtake the music world.








;)

Rottieluver45
03-17-2003, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by shais_mom
After some deep thinking with other PT members. I have decided that:


Tupac is alive, he and Elvis are together and are going to unite and overtake the music world.








;)

Just to bring the topic back, That would be hilarious!

I don`t really know if he`s dead or alive! We`ll just have to see!

weiner_teddy
03-18-2003, 05:26 PM
I thought he wasn't living anymore, am I wrong:confused: :confused: