Sheeba

[Aspen and Misty]

Well. As many of you know our beloved Chewy was put down yesterday (go to the Chewy thread to find out more). Last night I could not sleep cause there was no doggie to cuddle with or to sooth my fears. I ended up sleeping with Chewy's hedgehog booda and my sister at my moms house, I just couldn't sleep alone, I don't think it is possible. So we went to the pound today to see what dogs they had. And when we arrived there we saw a dog who was a stray with no name who we had fallin in love with this past thursday (although we were NOT planning on getting her at this time). We didn't think she would be there cause she was jus tto sweet to be there for 2 days! I was shocked to see her. When we got her out this morning my dad also feel in love with her. We put a hold payment on her and deced to come back and get her on Monday. But about 1 pet shop trip and 2 hours later we were back at the pound picking up teh newest member of our family, Sheeba a 10 month old Rotweiler Pittbull mix. I know bad combantion but she is the sweetest dog I have ever met, and I mean that. She is such a darling! She HAS to be on my lap all the time. It also has been nice to have a doggie neck to cry on and some puppy kisese when I was feeling the loss of my baby. Although, the pain of loosing Chewy will never heel, Sheeba is doing a nice job at helping me not to be so lonly all the time. She just got a bath and now smells like Baby powder. I alread yam in love with her and I swear she acts just like Cheyw, without the agression. Well anyway! Here are some pictures of my new baby...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid53/pf93e21fc2893980e8ec2feaa071e5b6e/fc916af2.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid53/pb0a999842cd72a766f0fcb5905958a96/fc916af0.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid53/p30ee0c2a1c560923a8d1406e24a3e620/fc916aed.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid53/pa9f5db969f6d9763899d556c4e5ed8de/fc916aef.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid53/p3db9377bb15069bb04baba5014dc1d08/fc916aec.jpg

I hope you enjoyed her pictures as muc has I'm enjoying haveing her around. She will never replace Chewy but she can always have a new piece of my heart.

Ash

[Cookiebaker]

Ash, I am so happy for you that you have another pup to help heal your heart. Sheba is beautiful! I think she looks alot like Sleipner's Zeke!

[aly]

Sheeba is darling, adorable, beautiful, and gorgeous!!! What a wonderful mix and a great representation of how amazing and sweet both of those breeds really are.

I am very happy and sad for you at the same time. I know you are going through pain right now. I am glad Sheeba gives you a shoulder to cry on. Just lean on her whenever you need to and I know you'll get plenty of puppy kisses in return.

Congratulations to Ash the new mommy and WELCOME SHEEBA the newest member to Pet Talk !!!!

[Karen]

My very first best-dog-in-the-whole-wide-world was a Shepherd/Doberman, or maybe Shepherd/Rottie mix named Sheba! Those tan spot eyebrows on a black face get me every time. I hope Sheeba is as happy as can be, and I am glad you have a new doggie to help you heal.

[primabella]

sheeba is a beautiful dog, ash :) i am so happy for you. welcome to pet talk sheeba! :D she does resemble zeke a lot :) i hope you guys have many happy years together. the way it sounds, you will. good luck and congratulations!:)

[aly]

Forgot to ask! Has Sheeba met Jilly yet ?

[primabella]

oh yeah...how does she get along with the rest of the gang? :D

[Aspen and Misty]

Thanx! I do hope we will be together till the day she dies of old age :D She is such a sweety and her personality is really starting to come out. She does have a nipping problem, but nothign to seriouse and she is still a puppy. I'm hopeing she will be good and it is so nice to have a dog who doesn't pull when out on a walk!

Actually Sheeba has meet the animals and has crazhed into there world, seriously, lol. She was in my room and jumped at the rat cage, not agressively but I sure do think she thought they looked tasty, LOL. She almost nocked it over and the rats were a little worried. She has seen Jillian although we weren't in there fro to long I do think she wanted to "play" with her, lol.

I am so happy to have her right now, she is such a joy!

Ash

[aly]

Are you going to take her through obedience? I think that would be fun and helpful!! :)

Poor ratties had a scare! Glad they're okay.

[wolfsoul]

awww what a cutie pie! ;)

[sammi]

So sorry about Chewy. I am glad you were able to give a new puppy a home and help you with your sorrow. We will be looking forward to hearing more about Sheeba. She looks like a cutie!

[slleipnir]

Aww, such a cutie :D She does kinda look like zeke! I found this pic of zeke and her had the same expressions ;D Their color patterns seems to be similar too :]
http://unavoidable.net/split.jpg

[wolfsoul]

what kind of dog is zeke? anything similar to sheeba?

[slleipnir]

Not 100% sure but the HS said German shep/ lab..I personally think he looks more like a dobe then lab but anywho

[RockyRoad]

Sheeba is ADORABLE!! I, too, think she looks like Zeke. I'm so happy that she is helping you recover and get through your loss.
She is so cute, I want to just go to PA and give her a big hug! :D She looks so happy in those pictures, and why wouldn't she be when she has a wonderful owner like you, Ash! :) I'm glad that she is a wonderful addition to your family.

[wolfsoul]

i dont think he lookes like shepherd lab either...i think he looks like shepherd rotti...cuz my friends own a shepherd rotti and she looks just like zeke!;) ....here are some shep/lab Xs i found...
http://www.dogfriendly.com/server/general/gallery/images/oscar4.jpg
http://dogoftheday.com/archive/2001/February/16.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/al/aaloc/gilligan.JPG
http://www.petfinder-network.com/fotos/IL67.972495.jpg
that one from pet of the day looks sorta like him huh?
here are some shepherd rotti crosses
http://www.barcshelter.org/dogs/images/paco2.jpg
http://www.cspca.org/adopt/dogs/flash_28453_d.jpg
http://www.awlqld.com.au/SheebaShepRotti1810.jpg
ok maybe the shepherd rotti crosses dont look like him lol...u said u thought shepherd dobie? i will look.... lol im so bored, dont mind me
:rolleyes:
http://www.giveusahome.co.uk/mayhew/lara.jpg
http://www.homelesspets.net/adoptions/Cookie_230.jpg
http://www.lgal.org/Adoption/Available%20Pets/Rocko/images/DSCF0279.jpg
ok now i agree with u lol...he definatly looks like a shepherd dobie X! :D

[Cookiebaker]

I took the liberty of putting up the pictures for you so we can see them. (All you have to do is put img where you have url.)


http://www.dogfriendly.com/server/general/gallery/images/oscar4.jpg
http://dogoftheday.com/archive/2001/February/16.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/al/aaloc/gilligan.JPG
http://www.petfinder-network.com/fotos/IL67.972495.jpg
that one from pet of the day looks sorta like him huh?
here are some shepherd rotti crosses
http://www.barcshelter.org/dogs/images/paco2.jpg
http://www.cspca.org/adopt/dogs/flash_28453_d.jpg
http://www.awlqld.com.au/SheebaShepRotti1810.jpg
ok maybe the shepherd rotti crosses dont look like him lol...u said u thought shepherd dobie? i will look.... lol im so bored, dont mind me
:rolleyes:
http://www.giveusahome.co.uk/mayhew/lara.jpg
http://www.homelesspets.net/adoptions/Cookie_230.jpg
http://www.lgal.org/Adoption/Available%20Pets/Rocko/images/DSCF0279.jpg
ok now i agree with u lol...he definatly looks like a shepherd dobie X! :D

[Aspen and Misty]

She is the perfect dog! I am in love with her, so deeply in love with her.

****But, she has 1 flaw, She doesn't like men :eek: and there are 4 of them in my family :eek: she growled and bared her teeth at joshie my little bro, I don't think he did anything, he bent down to her level and he held his hand otu and aloud her to aproach him (???) and bite my bros legs really hard when he was walking and she was growling, not a playfull growl either, I do love her play growl though, LOL, Well anyway we will be taking her back to the pound on monday hopefully she will find a nice home :D I do hope she ends up somewhere nice, she is the sweetest thing and I know she deserves to be in a family who can love her. And hopefully they wont have men :D she is a cutie though ;)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid53/p30ee0c2a1c560923a8d1406e24a3e620/fc916aed.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid53/pd4e7f7c744e20436b042600bb2742b25/fc916aea.jpg

We might be trying to find another dog, although I don't think we have much luck, or there is something wrong with us! :eek:

Ash :D

[Karen]

She may have been abused by men in the past, but you have another day or so with her, so don't give up yet! It took a couple weeks for a friend of mine's pound-pup to not growl at her husband when he came home, but now he knows Dennis won't beat him, he loves him too. In any case, be careful and make sure any men in the house don't make any sudden moves near her, and that will help. Have your brother offer her a treat, very calmly. He should just hold still with the treat and call her over, if she won't come to him, he can put it on the floor in front of him, just so she begins to associate boys with good things happening.

[lovemyshiba]

She is such a sweetie!!!
I'm sorry that it's not going to work out with her, that is sad.
I was looking forward to meeting her on one of your trips up here too!!
I hope she finds a wonderful forever home, and that you can heal without her.
There are a few rescues and organizations here, and they let you take the dogs home for a few days to make sure that he/she is a fit for your family and lifestyle. Let me know, and I can get you any phone numbers.

[lovemyshiba]

I forgot--Kito HATED men at first. Except for my hubby, he wouldn't tolerate anyone--especially my dad and little bro. They dont live with us, but then he eventually was around them enough that he is now used to them.

[Aspen and Misty]

Thanx! We are definitly going to help her get over her fear a little bit. But my brother almost cried when She growled and barked at him. He is really afried of her because Chewy has always scared him and now he was grwoled at by another dog, so we think for the sake of my brother, we need to get a sweet dog. Anyways, We are definitly going to work with her for the next day and my dad and my brother are going to feed her treats like there is no tomrrow, that way she will asociate the boys with treats and lots of treats :D She really seems to be a very well behaved dog, and I do think she was abused because she is very very timid. Although she is great with little boys and any kind of women. She is such a sweety, I just love her so much :D I know she will find a great home, because she is a great dog.

[Aspen and Misty]

No thanks Emily. My SPCA is great, they have 3 dogs there who have been there for 5 months. They almost never put a dog down, which is great! We are going to see if the Doberman rescue has any dogs, we really like Dobermans, they are such sweeties, We might be seeing one tomrrow cause the lady who we talked to before said if we don't have another dog by sunday to call her and see if she has anything in, so we are going to call her and see. I will keep you all updated, I really wish we could have kept her, we seemd to click. Like I felt like we were conected, and the really really really weird thing is, she acted JUST like Chewy, expect without the agression problems!! It was freaky she did things that only Chewy did and I have never seen another dog do expet for him, LOL, I wonder what Chewy is doing up there, I think he is messing with me :rolleyes: lol,

Ash

[Kfamr]

wow... that was awefully quick. She's cute.....hopefully she stays longer.

[COCatMama]

I'm in shock..... I would be absolutely beside myself if, heaven forbid, something happened to Juneau...I wouldn't even be able to LOOK at another dog for a long time after.......it......
I am sorry but I feel as tho poor Chewy was just tossed aside for being 'inconvenient' and not even properly mourned at least for a week , although, I have not read most of the threads on Chewy yet....I will now though...

Poor poor Chewy.... :(

[wolfsoul]

Originally posted by Cookiebaker
I took the liberty of putting up the pictures for you so we can see them. (All you have to do is put img where you have url.)

thanx! i will try that right now lol...hmmmm...what to put a pic of...ahk my moms kicking me off so im just gonna grab another pick of a dobie shepherd cross and run lol....ill post the pic if the super fat one i saw earlier lol
http://www.foothillsanimal.org/Noelle.JPG

[wolfsoul]

I DID IT!!!! ITS A FRIGGIN MIRACLE!!! lol im okay...heh...heh :D

[aly]

Didn't the shelter require all people in the family to meet the dog before adopting? I would suggest your brothers going with you next time so that this won't happen again. Its very confusing for dogs to get adopted then go back to the shelter so fast. Please tell the shelter everything that happened so that they will have the information and perhaps not send her home to young kids.

[wolf_Q]

:( :( :(

I was REALLY hoping I wouldn't see this. I didn't want to see Chewy put down. :( If it was my dog I'd have ran away with them...seriously....I couldn't handle it....I don't know if Chewy could have been helped...but I was hoping to at least see him go to the trainer once. :(

And if it were me that had a problem with an aggressive dog, I'd be staying away from any dog that could have the least bit of aggressive tendencies. An older dog that you know it's history, not a young stray pup.

I hope Sheeba is able to find a good home. :(

RIP Chewy boy, I wish I could have met you sweetheart. :(

[tomkatzid]

Please be aware that pit bulls and or rottweilers are sometimes put down by shetlers, just because of their breed. So please DO NOT over state this situation. If they think this dog is an agreessive biter , they make take drastic steps which do not need to happen.

[Aspen and Misty]

Originally posted by aly
Didn't the shelter require all people in the family to meet the dog before adopting? I would suggest your brothers going with you next time so that this won't happen again. Its very confusing for dogs to get adopted then go back to the shelter so fast. Please tell the shelter everything that happened so that they will have the information and perhaps not send her home to young kids.

Thats the weird thing. we did all go and see her? And she was sooo sweet to the whole family?? I don't understand? My little brother went with us and my dad went with us, my older brother didn't because he had to work but my sister and my mom were there, she did get to meet the whole family but one person?

Lalania- I thought the same thing to, but I found that getting Sheeba really helped me, although I will never get over the loss of my sweet baby, I loved him, even though you might think diffrently. I know many of you are upset about my decision, but I really did try to convince my parents so please do not yell at me, the only thing I could of done was set him loose and hoped he didn't get hit or picked up by the wrong person. Today, I felt I needed a new dog in my life and that was my decision and I made one that best fitted me. Although, the decsion for you might be not to look at another dog for a couple of weeks I really felt that I needed something there for me while I was hurting and she has helped me.

Ash

[Kfamr]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Aspen and Misty]

Originally posted by tomkatzid
Please be aware that pit bulls and or rottweilers are sometimes put down by shetlers, just because of their breed. So please DO NOT over state this situation. If they think this dog is an agreessive biter , they make take drastic steps which do not need to happen.

O I know, we will tell them that she doesn't like men but is the sweetest things to females. I dont' think they will put her down, but try to find her a home with a female.

Ash

[COCatMama]

uhh a little bird told me more than one PT user offered to take Chewy...but that's all water under the bridge now. I sincerely hope your new dog doesn't end up with same fate as poor Chewy.

[Aspen and Misty]

Originally posted by Lalania
uhh a little bird told me more than one PT user offered to take Chewy...but that's all water under the bridge now. I sincerely hope your new dog doesn't end up with same fate as poor Chewy.

Not that I know of? Only Molly and Mike, unless you count them as 2 users? And no she wont, at least not on my hands.

[Kfamr]

Chewy was in your hands, You told us your parents forced you? What if your parents force you again. :rolleyes:

[COCatMama]

well if you missed their offer, that really stinks :O poor chewy might still be alive. KM has a point, you couldn't stop them this time, what's going to stop them next time?

[wolf_Q]

She's not keeping the dog. So her parents are not going to do that again.

[Kfamr]

But she wants another dog after this one correct?

[Aspen and Misty]

Originally posted by Kfamr
But she wants another dog after this one correct?

Nope, I'm never going to have another dog, ever. And I'm NOT getitng married and I'm NOT having kids. I'm going to live my life with me and Mr. Booda, Chewy's Hedgehog.

Ash

[Kfamr]

Originally posted by Aspen and Misty


Nope, I'm never going to have another dog, ever. And I'm NOT getitng married and I'm NOT having kids. I'm going to live my life with me and Mr. Booda, Chewy's Hedgehog.

Ash


":rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: "

[primabella]

i'm sorry your not keeping sheeba.

[ellensy]

:( :( sorry bout Chewy.....

[lovemyshiba]

I have to say I am a little confused. It was not her decision, unfortunately she is young, and still lives with her parents, and ultimately, these decisions are theirs.
I don't think Sheeba will have the same "fate" as Chewy, they are returning her to the pound, and she will find a wonderful forever home, maybe without men or whatever.

Ashley~~
when you do consider another dog, maybe an older one who you are sure has no issues, and who can get along with your whole family.
Good luck.

[slleipnir]

I'm sorry about the whole thing. Josie doesn't like men either. She's fine if they come in the house and she can smell them and all, but if we're walking she'll howl and everything at them, and she's almost been hit by golf clubs and all cause of what she does. We were at my cottage and she ran at this guy barking and he was playing golf, and he raised it up to hit her, and I was screaming for him not to while running across the feild lol. My aunt said 'Oh, your not suppost to do that!' Riiight. Anyway, I just keep her away/on leash. Anywho I guess it's good she'll get another chance anyway. :[

[primabella]

lol @ the golf thing :D

ash, maybe if you take sheeba to classes and you bring along your brother? that way, she'll be obediant to men also. sorry if this won't work...i've never been to puppy classes before :rolleyes:

[Kfamr]

When we got Simba, he bit my mom twice. He'd growl when she came near or when anyone beside me came near. He doesn't like men either. But you know what? Did that stop us from keeping him? No. WE worked with him. WE got him over it. Let your brothers feed her, let your brothers walk her, let your brothers give her treats. That's what we did with my mom and Simba. A dog is not something to just get and then throw away the next day. You know how confused she's going to be? And I know it's not all your fault, maybe you should let your parents read theese posts instead of you and taking them personally. Maybe befor getting another dog, go to the pound 3 or more times a week like i do, looking petting, hugging, playing with all of the dogs. Maybe if you're old enough you could volunteer there and help out with them too. That way you'll get to know the dog befor getting it and having to take it back the next day.

[slleipnir]

I agree with KayAnn...

[lovemyshiba]

Originally posted by slleipnir
I agree with KayAnn...

I do also--we worked with a neighbor who was willing to help out with Kito's "man hating" He bought treats and kept them at his apt, and every time he saw us out, he came and gave some to Kito--at first he didn't want them, but by the time they moved out, he was willingly going up to him and sitting for him and taking the treats. As for my dad, we did the same thing, but Kito only sees him about once a month--but he doesn't bark at him anymore!! Our patience really paid off in that situation.
Volunteering at the shelter is a great idea--look into it!!

[AdoreMyDogs]

I know that you are hurting from your parents deciding that Chewey had to be PTS, but it seems to me that with this new dog coming into your life with issues, you are just giving up way too soon. Her problem is SO fixable with the right training. It sounds like she just had a bit of baggage, and you and your family added to that by inviting her into your life, and giving up so quickly. Having a label of "not good with men" does not look good to people adopting full grown dogs. That might be the ticket that will end up causing her ultimate euthinasia by the shelter. Honestly, when you mix in her breeding, with the fact that she's full grown or nearly full grown, and then having a label such as "not good with men" placed on her, her odds are not likely that she'll get adopted in my opinion and experience with shelters. I am not sure how the shelters work in your state, but here in Michigan, she'd be PTS if she was returned with "not good with men" labeling.

I think it's best that you don't get another dog until you are out of your house at least. It's not fair for the dog. You can't expect them to be the perfect companion right after they come out of a shelter, especially when they had an abusive background, which many shelter dogs unfortunately have. I feel very sorry for Chewey and for that poor dog who was adopted, given a home, given some time to bond, and then taken back to the shelter because of a very fixable problem.

Please don't ask your parents to get another dog. Think about the dog. That's two now that you and/or your family have given up on, and too soon in my opinion. Refraining from getting another dog until you are grown up would be a mature thing to do. Please don't get another one.

Sorry for sounding harsh, but in my opinion, giving up on Sheeba so soon was just terrible and I truly feel sorry for the dog. It hurts to hear of dogs going through things like this.

[aly]

Lolly also had men issues when I got her. Who could blame her after being abused for 5 years by some disgruntled lunatic. Anyway, I was fortunate to have a sweet male neighbor and a sweet dad who helped Lolly understand that men are not a bad thing (well MOST men anyway, hehe). A little work, love, and patience can go a long way. She still doens't completely love strangers but she allows them to pet her and does absolutely fine :)

[luckies4me]

Originally posted by aly
Didn't the shelter require all people in the family to meet the dog before adopting? I would suggest your brothers going with you next time so that this won't happen again. Its very confusing for dogs to get adopted then go back to the shelter so fast. Please tell the shelter everything that happened so that they will have the information and perhaps not send her home to young kids.



I was going to make this comment but you beat me to the punch! I too am wondering why the whole family did not go to help pick out a dog. When we were looking for dogs, we took Dylan and all of us went! If the dog will be a family dog, the family must go and make the decision as a whole.

Dogs can sense fear also, she may have knew your brother way afraid.

[luckies4me]

Originally posted by Aspen and Misty


Thats the weird thing. we did all go and see her? And she was sooo sweet to the whole family?? I don't understand? My little brother went with us and my dad went with us, my older brother didn't because he had to work but my sister and my mom were there, she did get to meet the whole family but one person?

Lalania- I thought the same thing to, but I found that getting Sheeba really helped me, although I will never get over the loss of my sweet baby, I loved him, even though you might think diffrently. I know many of you are upset about my decision, but I really did try to convince my parents so please do not yell at me, the only thing I could of done was set him loose and hoped he didn't get hit or picked up by the wrong person. Today, I felt I needed a new dog in my life and that was my decision and I made one that best fitted me. Although, the decsion for you might be not to look at another dog for a couple of weeks I really felt that I needed something there for me while I was hurting and she has helped me.

Ash




I don't get it??? In some posts you talk as if your parents are divorced? For instance you mentioned you stayed over at your dad place with your sister. Do you have a step dad or something who you call "dad"? :confused:

[RockyRoad]

So...what's happening with Sheeba?

I have to agree with the others. I think you need to have your dad/brothers spend some time giving Sheeba some treats and things like that. The way I see it is, she was in a shelter, which means she was abandoned, so if you were to give her back right away, wouldn't she be hurt? She is just a puppy and won't understand what is going on. And as KayAnn said before, she will probably be very confused. Please, I beg of you, don't give up so soon on her. Or if you do, I agree with Adoremydogs, I wouldn't consider another dog for a long time. Best of luck to you on your decision. I hope it is the right one. (And if this is about your parents, I think you should show them these posts. I mean, look how many people are against giving Sheeba back.)
P.S.--I'm not trying to be mean, and nobody else is either, so please do not think that.

[kohala]

Ash, animals, like people, feel and react to stressful environments. Like chewy, any dog coming into a home (or two homes?) where there is dissagreement or any tense vibes will absorb these and they will become part of their personalities. You mentioned a divorce, which is very hard on a family (especially when there are several children involved), and that includes the animals. As much as you want a dog for your needs, consider the dogs needs as well. My heart goes out to you to be in this situation. But my heart goes out to the animals that get PTS because they don't fit in even more. It's hard to have a functional animal in a dysfunctional family. If you and your family are willing to accept that possiblity, maybe (as others have said) you could go together to obedience school, and work lovingly with the dog. Then you can make it work!! Good luck!!

[aly]

When a dog is adopted, they go through a "honeymoon period" where they are adjusting to the new environment. It lasts about 2 weeks until they finally realize they live there and you will see a change it behavior - it could be for the better or for the worse. I think with consistent training and work with Sheeba, she would settle down and learn some manners. She needs to have a firm, loving hand and know a routine. I honestly don't feel it would take too much time to turn her around. She's still so young and as you say, she's sweet. I don't think she's been given enough adjustment time.

[tomkatzid]

Ash,

I was just wondering, why did you have to give Tiffany up after 2 months.

Katz

[wolf_Q]

Who is Tiffany?

[Kfamr]

Originally posted by wolf_Q
Who is Tiffany?

^^^^
what i was wondering.





p.s. love the sig.

[wolf_Q]

I searched and I believe this (http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21388) is the dog she's talking about...but I didn't know she took the dog in for 2 months? Wasn't there another dog her friend had also that wasn't taking care of the dog? :confused:

p.s. thanks about my siggy :)

[tomkatzid]

Ash,

Did you ever ask Mike if you could have her back?

Katz

[Cincy'sMom]

I have to agree with what al ot of others have already said...
First, very few dogs are coming to come perfectly trained, no issues. Doesn't matter if you get a puppy, a rescue, whatever, if a perfectly trained dog will have to adjust to a new situation.
Second, sad though it is, many dogs in shelters are afriad of men. Many dogs end up in shlters becuase they have been beaten, neglected, or abused, and often (though not always) by men. That doesn't not mean all men are bad. As we all know there are wonderful dog loving men :) This is also ap roblem that can be overcame. People have given many examples of that and I can add my own. Two of my mom's dogs have seemed to have issues with men Dazzi and Snoopy. With exposure to my Dad, Ralph, Brian and other men at the Dog Park etc, they are doing mch better...although they both do still shy away sometimes. It is something that they continue to work on.

Third, do not take everything personally. Your parents do have the ultimate say and there isn't anything you can do about that until you move out of their house. So, if this doesn't work with Sheeba, I wold be hesitant to get another dog. Enjoy Teddy and Honey, and once you move out and once you finish college ( or have housing allowing a dog, if that is the route you take) then get the dog YOU want and train it the way YOU want. Then it is your responsiblity and your resonsibilty alone. Yours to make decisions on and have th final say on. As Leslie said, that is the mature thing to do.

[kohala]

Originally posted by Cincy'sMom
I have to agree with what al ot of others have already said...
First, very few dogs are coming to come perfectly trained, no issues. Doesn't matter if you get a puppy, a rescue, whatever, if a perfectly trained dog will have to adjust to a new situation.
Second, sad though it is, many dogs in shelters are afriad of men. Many dogs end up in shlters becuase they have been beaten, neglected, or abused, and often (though not always) by men. That doesn't not mean all men are bad. As we all know there are wonderful dog loving men :) This is also ap roblem that can be overcame. People have given many examples of that and I can add my own. Two of my mom's dogs have seemed to have issues with men Dazzi and Snoopy. With exposure to my Dad, Ralph, Brian and other men at the Dog Park etc, they are doing mch better...although they both do still shy away sometimes. It is something that they continue to work on.

Third, do not take everything personally. Your parents do have the ultimate say and there isn't anything you can do about that until you move out of their house. So, if this doesn't work with Sheeba, I wold be hesitant to get another dog. Enjoy Teddy and Honey, and once you move out and once you finish college ( or have housing allowing a dog, if that is the route you take) then get the dog YOU want and train it the way YOU want. Then it is your responsiblity and your resonsibilty alone. Yours to make decisions on and have th final say on. As Leslie said, that is the mature thing to do.

Well said!
Also, the suggestion of volunteering at the shelter is very good. There are things you might learn there, too!! Good luck, Ash!

[micki76]

Originally posted by aly
When a dog is adopted, they go through a "honeymoon period" where they are adjusting to the new environment. It lasts about 2 weeks until they finally realize they live there and you will see a change it behavior - it could be for the better or for the worse. I think with consistent training and work with Sheeba, she would settle down and learn some manners. She needs to have a firm, loving hand and know a routine. I honestly don't feel it would take too much time to turn her around. She's still so young and as you say, she's sweet. I don't think she's been given enough adjustment time.

Oh, so very true. Millie HATED men at 1st too. All it took was TIME. And she's 3+ years old!
Ash, just please stop getting these dogs and then getting rid of them when they don't work out. It's just not FAIR.
How would you like to live in an orphanage, get adopted and get sent back all in one week because you were AFRAID of your new dad???? I'm sorry, but your family doesn't need a dog. None of you are responsible enough for it. :mad:

[Aspen and Misty]

I havn't read all the post, so please forgive me if I say anythign that was already said.

I am so proud of my Sheeba baby!!!!! She has offically fallin in lvoe with my dad and sad to say I think she likes him more then me :D Which is great that way my dad will never feel like he needs to worry about her. now of course Sheeba is my dog and because she does have some doggie issues will probly be an only dog most of her life, but I am totallty fine with that. Because she has fallin in love with my dad and we have talked it thourgh we now have a method of how to make her fall in love with the men in my family. Pretty much it consit of my dad or the man haveing treats in there pocket and any tiem they see Sheeba, they give her a treat. So men are now the people who give her treats and she follows them around like a little puppy dog. :D So adorable! i totally agree Micki! It isn't far to Sheeba to have to go back to the shelter because of somethign that happned on her first day, I mean come on this was her first day. Sunday has really changed our minds about her, we really think that she will be able to love men and all people! I can't wait to begin to work with her. I am going to call my trainer this afternoon and see what she thinks I should do and maybe she can give me some tips. I don't think she is agressive at all, I really do think that she is a huggable pup! LOl it was soooo funny. When yo uturn off all the lights and get into bed Sheeba turns into one big guard dog :D. My brother came home one night around 1 and as soon as he began to mess with the door Sheeba growled and lunged at the door and refused ot let him in (only does this at night when our bedtime things go on, liek turning off of the lights and getting into bed). Of course I pulled her away and my brother came in and once she relized I knew him she settled down right away! She is sooo protective of me, we really have seemed to click! Me and my dad have talked about it and we have deced to give her some time to settle in to the home and then see how she acts, the only last person to ask about it is my brother, who I'm afreid will say no because of the whole door incedent thing last night. And if he says no and says he is really really uncomfortble around her I'm afried my dad will make me take her back so I'm going to look on the interent for things that say how bad it is to give a dog back to the shelter and how it scars them and stuff (I know I've read it soemwhere). Also, I'm going to bring up the point that it only took her less then an hour of my dad carriing around treats to convince her he is nice. So I am going to try to convince them, wish me luck! I am goign to show him all the post on here about your guy's dogs, I know it will help convince him! But I do want to state one more time! If my brother says he is really uncomftble around her my dad will most likly make me give her up. And I don't think I will be getting another dog, I agree 100% with some of adoremydog's state ments. I don't think my parents are willing to work with a dog and I don't feel it is fare for another dog to coem into a home who is not willing to help it adjust, it is a big change for a dog and they need that time to get used to the people and place, and sometime, they need a little bit of help getting though some old habbits, but when your gettign an older dog you just have to learn to accept it, and I don't think my parents will exept that fact that dogs come with baggage, just like people.

tomkatzid- Tiffy was not my dog. I was puppy sitting :D and of course I asked for her back, but Mike acctaulyl gave her away, we are prayign to a good home!!

Well I'm going to take her into the backyard and play around and take some pictures of her!

Ash

ps: I almost left pet talk, afried of what you guys could have said about me on the threads and I was really worried abotu Checking to see what you have said here. But I should have known you guys always pull through for me and I will always be gratefull for you! Thank you so much for givign me suggestions, I will take them and use them and you gusy have been such a help!

pss: Adore my dogs- I just wanted to let you know, your post might have been harsh, but most of it was the truth.

[Jessica12345]

Im so glad!:D I really hope you can keep her! she sounds like such an angel:) evdn if she isnt to sure about guys. lol
GOOD LUCK!
:D



post the pics as soon as you get em!:)

[RockyRoad]

Oh that is such great news! I am so happy for you, Sheeba, and your family for making the whole situation work out! I hope your brother will begin to trust Sheeba, and that Sheeba will trust him! Good luck! :D

[Aspen and Misty]

Now jut remeber this is a I might be able to keep her still. Her personality is such a big factor in this and she has the best personalitly. I've also been tryign to make my prents understnad that older dogs come with baggage and it just takes a couple of weeks for them to relize they are safe and in there new forever home.

LOL

Ash

[Aspen and Misty]

BTW- She really does like my dad lol (more to come!)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid53/pde0c3a7cb8e185f942f29c8232f43f3b/fc8ed1f8.jpg
Yes she IS sitting on him, LOL

Ash

[primabella]

omg, i am SO happy for you :D and i'm glad you didn't leave pet talk. :) it's good you are giving her another chance, it was worth it, wasn't it? :)

i hope sheeba does something that will win your bro's trust :p i can't wait to see the pics. she is adorable and sounds like a big sweetie! congrats :D

[tatsxxx11]

I'm with Primabella! So glad you decided not to leave PT! I wish you all best with Sheeba! With your positive attitude, she'll have the best chance at success! I think if your brother treats her with love and acceptance and gives her a chance to open up her heart to him, she'll be just fine! Paws crossed! She's such a sweetheart and I know how happy she's making you!!! {{{hugs}}}

[Tina]

I'm so glad you decided to stay at Pet Talk:) And your not leaving it just wouldn't be the same here with out you. I really hope that everything works out with Sheeba and that you can keep her.:) She is a really beautiful dog and she looks like a real sweetheart! Sheeba and you will be in my thoughts and prayers.

[KYS]

Ash, I am so glad you are not leaving Pet Talk.
Lots of kisses to Sheeba, and hope that she
is able to become a happy member of your family.

[lovemyshiba]

Ash--she is sooo sweet!!
I'm glad things are turning around for her, and it looks like she looves your dad, and I'm sure your brother will not be too far in the future. Kito liked my dad first, and then my brother, I don't know why, but it took him a little longer to trust my brother.
I can't wait to meet her!!!!!

[aly]

Hey Ash - So glad you have decided to stay and also so glad that Sheeba may work out. They do change a lot while they are adjusting so just be patient and I'm sure your brother will come around.

I would sign her up for obedience ASAP. She needs to be socialized around other dogs and as many people as possible. Since we have no idea about her history, you should just assume she's had no socialization and start with a clean slate.

[Karen]

Give your Sheeba a hug for me, and an extra treat. Signing her up for obedience classes ASAP will be fun for you and Sheeba, and good socialization as well. She was just being a good protector, and that she welcomed your brother once she knew it was him is a good sign! She's still getting to know the family, but she IS a shepherd mix, I believe from those ears, and they are known to be good family protectors! :) I am glad she is a cuddlebug, too! Is she a leaner? :)

[wolf_Q]

Ash, please give Sheeba a big old {{{HUG}}} from me!!

I'm very glad you decided not to leave Pet Talk, and I'm really hoping things will work out with Sheeba! :)

*Please* get her enrolled in an obedience class--you won't regret it, I promise! It's fun! :)

[popcornbird]

I just saw this thread now. Congrats on your new pup, although I am awfully heartbroken about what happened to Chewy. :( Your new pup is Zeke the 2nd! Looks just like him!!

Hope you keep her. Good luck.

[Tanya&Fritz]

This thread is 6 pages long and I missed it? Where have I been???

Congratulations on Sheeba and I'm very sorry about Chewy. :(

[anna_66]

Originally posted by Tanya&Fritz
This thread is 6 pages long and I missed it? Where have I been???
I don't know where I've been either!
Anyways...
Sheeba is the cutest (I love her colors;)). I sure hope you get to keep her & that she gets along with your entire family. Good luck to all of you! And we MUST have more pictures, like that one of her on your dad:D

[Dakota's Mommy]

WOW, she's a cutie! Thanks for sharing.

[anna_66]

So how is it going with Sheeba Ash? Do you still have her?

[*LabLoverKEB*]

Yay!!!!! I am soooo glad you are able to keep her! Congratulations! Is she spoiled yet?

[RockyRoad]

I was wondering the same thing.:confused:
How's Sheeba doing Ash?:)

[aly]

I was also wondering.

Hoping for an update soon!! :)

[Aspen and Misty]

Thanx everyone. I was unable to keep her sadly :( I did call on thrusday to see what happned and she was adopted. I hope she got a good home. She deserves it, she is a wonderful dog.

Ash

[*LabLoverKEB*]

Oh, Ash, I am so sorry, to hear about both Chewy, and Sheeba! I know you loved Chewy. I am so sorry! I really hope you will soon get another doggy.

[Kfamr]

.......invest in fish, they don't take much patients.

[Aspen and Misty]

Originally posted by Kfamr
.......invest in fish, they don't take much patients.

Hmmm, Maybe an Oscar would be nice ;)

We couldn't keep her because my brother was terrified of her. I mean seriously I've never seen my brother scared and he was really scared. We are willing to work with a dog on problems but we aren't willing to deal with agression again. and I don't neceassarly think Sheeba had agression I just think she needed to be socialized a little bit, but because she was growling and jumped towards my brother threatingly my parents didn't want to keep her. We wanted a dog who was sweet and liked almost everyoneand we didn't have to be afreid to leave her in a room with a guest, I guess we wanted a dog who we could trust and we thought we could with Sheeba and we thought she was as sweet as could be, but I guess you need to spend more then 3 hours with a dog at the pound before you buy it. (And we saw her 3 times each for about an hour so its not like we went in once saw her for 3 hours straight and then got her, we broke it up and saw her 3 diffrents times)

Ash

[AdoreMyDogs]

Originally posted by *LabLoverKEB*
Oh, Ash, I am so sorry, to hear about both Chewy, and Sheeba! I know you loved Chewy. I am so sorry! I really hope you will soon get another doggy.

I am sorry, but I hope you DO NOT get another dog!

[micki76]

Originally posted by Aspen and Misty


We are willing to work with a dog on problems but we aren't willing to deal with agression again.

Just stop getting dogs. It's not fair to the dogs, and you are not going to find the PERFECT dog. No dog is perfect and I think that's what your family needs.

[Kfamr]

Originally posted by micki76


Just stop getting dogs. It's not fair to the dogs, and you are not going to find the PERFECT dog. No dog is perfect and I think that's what your family needs.

Agreed.

[Cincy'sMom]

I have to agree with Leslie, Micki and KayAnn. I sais this before, and I stand by it...


Originally posted by Cincy'sMom


So, if this doesn't work with Sheeba, I would be hesitant to get another dog. Enjoy Teddy and Honey, and once you move out and once you finish college ( or have housing allowing a dog, if that is the route you take) then get the dog YOU want and train it the way YOU want. Then it is your responsiblity and your resonsibilty alone. Yours to make decisions on and have the final say on. As Leslie said, that is the mature thing to do.

[*LabLoverKEB*]

Ash, correct me if I am wrong, but aren't you the one that has Teddy Bear, the Sheltie? I'm sorry if I am wrong!

[Desert Arabian]

Reading this extremely depressing and agravating thread reminds me of this: (lol, which I really don't know why... I found it on a Labrador Retreiver rescure org. in Illinois and Southern Wisconsin.)

A Prayer of Rescue

Now that I'm home, bathed, settled and fed,
All nicely tucked in my warm new bed.
I'd like to open my baggage
Lest I forget,
There is so much to carry -
So much to regret.

Hmm . . . Yes there it is, right on the top

Let's unpack Loneliness, Heartache and Loss,
And there by my leash hides Fear and Shame.
As I look on these things I tried so hard to leave -
I still have to unpack my baggage called Pain.

I loved them, the others, the ones who left me,
But I wasn't good enough - for they didn't want me.
Will you add to my baggage?
Will you help me unpack?
Or will you just look at my things -
And take me right back?

Do you have the time to help me unpack?
To put away my baggage,
To never repack?
I pray that you do - I'm so tired you see,
But I do come with baggage -
Will you still want me?

- Evelyn Colbath

[primabella]

i am sorry you are not keeping sheeba, ash. i do wish you had tried to help her out though. :(

sarah - yeah, she has teddy the sheltie. i haven't seen any pics of him or heard about him though. :)

[*LabLoverKEB*]

Primabella, ok, thanks! I wasen't sure! Teddy, Kai (I think that's her name, the owner is new here), and Mickey are sooooo cute!

Ash, can we please see some pictures of Teddy? Thanks!:) ;)

[RockyRoad]

I'm so sorry you could not keep Sheeba. We all know you loved her and didn't want to give her away.
I know it was NOT your decision, it was your parents' choice. But, I respecfully agree with Micki, Adoremydogs, Cincy's Mom, and Kfamr.
Anyhoot, I'm glad Sheeba did get another home.