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*BaSim*
02-05-2001, 10:12 PM
I just now heard on the news while i was watching that a pit bull attacked 3 kids at a school. I think it was in Cali. Im not sure. But right when they said they shot and killed the animal i cried. I think they should atleast see how the dog was treated and the history of the dog first and see if there was something that had happend to the dog. I hate when people mis treat dogs and make them aggressive ..... It makes me sick to my stomach.... I hate people sometimes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im in so much anger right now so excuse me! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/mad.gif http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/mad.gif http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/mad.gif

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raynie
02-06-2001, 12:25 PM
the dog should be put down if it attacked kids regardless of its history!!!!!! i think the media is digging for dog related incidents after the presa attack in S.F. its become the new media fad.

Daisy's Mom
02-06-2001, 01:49 PM
I agree, if the dog is attacking children we can't have it around, but I know it's not its fault and that makes me sick too. I hope the owners of the dog are getting in trouble because they are at fault for the injuries of three children and the death of a dog.

BoxerLover
02-06-2001, 02:22 PM
It makes me mad that the owners could have let the dog get so aggressive. I hope people dont make Pit Bull stereotypes from this!

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carrie
02-06-2001, 03:21 PM
This is so sad and I understand your anger totally.
It's so sad that children have been terribly hurt and it's not just the physical pain they and their families will have to deal with.
It's sad that people have seen the dog as a tool to breed an agressive, unpredictable animal.
It's sad that such a dog has then had an upbringing or environment that did nothing to change these tendencies, or, even worse, encouraged them.
It's sad that the owners of this dog are unlikely to ever be found.
It's sad that they will probably wait for the dust to settle and get another dog to bring up the same way.
It's sad that as a dog loving community we sometimes put our own freedom above the good of the dog as a species and the community we live in as a whole..... the constantly barking dog down the road isn't just a pain, it's barking for a reason.
It's fantastic that we have a place like this, where everyone, without exception, puts the needs of their animals first - what a shame we can't get the rest of the dog owners here too!!

wolflady
02-06-2001, 03:31 PM
I tell you what, I'm a little embarrased to consider myself a new citizen here in CA with all of the dog attacks all around me. The pit bull attack was in San Jose, and the owner of the dog was a 19 year old. Now what on earth is a 19 year old doing with such a vicious dog? And why? I agree with all of you that it just makes me sick to my stomach that people have to make the animals this way. Apparently, the police arrived on the scene and tried to subdue the dog first, with pepper spray, and when that didn't work and the dog started lunging for them, they had to shoot 5 times before it brought the dog down. Now, how on earth can someone make a dog so vicious(and why was this dog around little kids)??!! I hate that people do that. This person is likely to be criminally charged. There was also another Rottweiler attack in San Fran as well....Ugh!!!! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/mad.gif http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/mad.gif

Pam
02-06-2001, 03:51 PM
A girl who I presently work with used to be a Veterinary Technician. She told me that she was once in the examining room with the doctor when the dog he was examining knocked him down and went for his throat! The owners of this dog had just gotten him from a shelter. The vet had quite a hard time subduing this animal, but when he finally had things under control he suggested to the family to euthanize the dog the family has 3 small children and the dog's history was questionable. The people said no and left his office in a huff. I realize that this dog's past owners most likely contributed to his behavior, but what I couldn't understand was this family is keeping a dog capable of what they just witnessed!

goldenR.luvr33
02-06-2001, 04:14 PM
Oh thats sad! i just recently saw a news special where 2 boxers attacked a woman who was gardening in her backyard. They had to Put the male dog to sleep but the female boxer is still alive but its locked up at an animal shelter! The owners of the boxers told the police that the woman must have provoked the attack. I felt bad for the woman and the dogs because first of all who would raise there dogs to be that mean. i Love my Puppies and i would never let them get that way!! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif

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Pam
02-11-2001, 10:48 AM
I just read in my local paper that a pit bull attacked and killed a poodle on Friday. It broke into the screened in porch where the dog was. There was a 2 yr. old playing on the porch, but fortunately the dog was subdued before it attacked the child. There is so much publicity right now surrounding these attacks and people's nerves are on edge. They closed the article in the paper by saying "unfortunately these dogs continue to wind up in the hands of those least able to know what to do with them." Some cities have enacted legislation about owning them. What a dilemma. http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/frown.gif

wolflady
02-12-2001, 02:02 PM
This really is becoming a problem in our society. I don't understand why people have to make dogs so vicious. San Francisco, the animal city, has now enacted a law that all large dogs (no matter how nice they are) are to be muzzled in public...this is because of all the attacks around here lately.

carrie
02-12-2001, 04:28 PM
That is sad, but for a society where the only real contact or news of a doggy nature for many people is the press it is a natural reaction. People know about guide dogs (seeing eye dogs), police dogs and gaurd dogs. The rest is what the papers choose to report.
How about all you people with PAT dogs (what you call therapy dogs, I think) getting in touch with your local newspapers and inviting them to come on one of your visits? Tell them that this is an ordinary pet dog that is doing something extraordinary and it's really worth a look.

*BaSim*
05-08-2001, 05:55 PM
ok im about to go insane DONT EVEN SAY THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just got REALLY mad ... wow i guess i have way more then one enemy besides eminem in the world!!! Pit bulls are GREAT dogs and are better that any kind of breed. Its the stupid people theese days that treat them like doo doo and train them to fight. it is NOT i repeat NOT the dogs fault!

ok befor i end up blowing up im going to go calm down!

and i have a pit bull mix and he is better tha any dogs in the world he could be better than any lab any day!!!

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tatsxxx11
05-08-2001, 07:22 PM
OK...I'll put myself between you guys!! I'm a lab mom and lover who also adores pit bulls. And just to balance the above messages...Most of you know I work a few days a week in a boarding/training kennel. EVERY Pit Bull and Pit Bull mix boarded there is an absolute marshallow. Just today, I spent about an hour with an absolutely beautiful girl named Abby. She is 1 yr. old black lab/pit bull (x) and is the most precious angel. She was recently adopted from a shelter and has the sweetest, most submissive personality. Almost pitifully submissive. She was so frightened of all the dogs and barking. All she wanted to do was curl up next to you on the ground, get belly rubs and give kisses. Maybe we should say, "Whenever you see the OWNER of an aggressive pit bull, run and take cover. These dogs that attack are raised and bred to be aggressive. I do not believe that it is a "bad breed" that is the problem, but bad BREEDING! Retrievers are my first love, BUT incredibly, according to the most recent statistics, golden retrievers are the breed with the most reported incidences of dog bites! One of the most beloved family dogs of all time! Any dog has the capability of inflicting great bodily harm. To avoid such further tragedy, we all must play a part by continuing to promote good breeding practices, report any observed cases of abuse, (which includes reporting owners who TRAIN dogs to fight and be vicious) and approach every dog with respect and caution until he or she is known to us!

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Sudilar
05-08-2001, 07:24 PM
My sister-in-law has had her pit-bull/husky mix for about 14 years now. That dog is the sweetest dog you could ever meet. There is not a mean bone in his body! In all the 14 years that I've known him, I have never seen or heard about him acting even a little aggressive-nothing. I trusted him with my kids. Mitch is a sweetheart!

tatsxxx11
05-08-2001, 07:49 PM
KayAnn, I just have to tell you that EVERY time I read one of your posts and look at that ADORABLE little pic. insert of Simba I smile from ear to ear! What a face! That expression just speaks volumes http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/biggrin.gif...Any guardian of a dog knows what I mean; I think!

Logan
05-08-2001, 10:04 PM
I totally agree with Sandra, and there is no way that I could ever express it better than she has, so all I'll say is "Amen". I'm also blessing her comment about Simba, KayAnn. He is just adorable and I love seeing his picture every time you post!!!
Logan

*LabLoverKEB*
05-08-2001, 10:08 PM
*BaSim* ~*~
You're right. I shouldnt've posted that. You can deleate it if you want! I'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo SORRY!!! WILL YOU FORGIVE ME?????????? I PROMISE I will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER do it again!!! Your Simba is ADORABLE!!!!!!! I wish I could have him!!! Can you pllleeeeeeese forgive me???? I guess Pit Bulls aren't THAT bad!!! I just never got a chance to be around them. I've heard all these dog attacks, but that dosen't mean I should blame it on Pit Bulls. Again, I'm reeeeeeeeeeaaaaallllllyyyyyy sorry!!!

Sudilar
05-08-2001, 10:11 PM
Simba is such a sweet dog. I would love to meet him. I would not be afraid, not for a moment.

*BaSim*
05-08-2001, 11:05 PM
*LabLoverKEB*, you are forgivin. As for the rest of you thank you for you sweet comments about Simba. The "Stinky Boy" just got a bath today! I got him a new brush it works very well and easy to get the hair out of the brush. It is called...the Snap-N-Clean

It has this lil plastic tray thing and u pop that up and all of the hair comes out of the brush and it does a good job of getting all the loose fur!


Ok i will admit Simba is VERY protective... but in a way its a good thing! Today we had to get a beware of dog sign because Simba barked and growled at a sales person. The sales person walked into the porch. He saw Simba barking and running towards him. My mom was yelling to the guy to go out the porch door befor he comes. And what did the guy do? he kept walking towards the front door! Simba ran up to him and the guy stuck his breif case out Simba bit his breif case and luckily my mom came up and grabbed Simba. It wasnt that Simba is aggressive. He is just protective. If we were to take simba out some were anyone could walk up and pet him. Unless its just me and simba walking he growls if someone comes up that Simba doesn't know. He is VERY protective over me. Welll right now he is waiting for me to go nite nite with him!

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Stenograsaurus
05-09-2001, 08:52 AM
Oh, BaSim, you have to be very careful of Simba being protective like that. There is a fine line between protection and aggression. Trust me, I know. I am speaking from experience. I had a wonderful Rottie who was the same way. He was protective and I thought, well, that's a good thing. Until the day he broke loose and attacked a neighbor who was walking in front of our house. He crossed that fine line. Although he was such a wonderful dog, the guilt is sometimes unbearable. Fortunately the neighbor was not hurt but it could have been so much worse. Keep an eye on that protectiveness. Don't let him cross that fine line. I'd hate to see anybody go through what we went through.
By the way, Simba is a very handsome fellow.

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jackiesdaisy1935
05-09-2001, 10:06 AM
I agree with Stenograsaurus. Perry is a pretty good size for a mini schnauzer, maybe 26 pounds and he is very protective of us and anyone coming into our yard. We realize this and have to be very careful, if someone comes to the front door, we have to put him outside in a fenced patio. He is so loving with us, you would never know he had this in him, but he does. He is also aggresive towards children and other dogs so we exercise him in our lower yard which is pretty big and fenced and when taking him out, he always has a harness on him and always, always on a leash. We have taken him to a dog behaviorist but it really didn't help, so we are very careful with him since we know his tendencies.

*LabLoverKEB*
05-09-2001, 11:46 AM
Thank you soooooooooooooooooooooooo much *BaSim*!!!!!! Sadie, my black Lab, judt got a bath yesterday, too!!!!! She smelled like a pig!!!! Simba, you are soooooooooo cute!!!!!!!!!! I'm going to apoligize to you, too, Simba, for saying those mean things about Pit Bulls!!!!! When I was at my friends house, I saw a Pit Bull mix, and she was just the sweetest thing!! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif Again, thanks for forgiving me, *BaSim*!!!!!!!!! I PROMISE I won't say anything else mean about Pit Bulls!!!! Just don't say anything about Labs, ok???? Because Labs are my first love!!!! *BaSim*, lets not ever let this happen again, ok? Simba, you are adorable!!! I printed your picture on the computer on the day that you were dog of the day, sometime in February!!! again, THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH, for forgiving me!!!!! I really appreciate it!!!!!!! :d :0

RetrieverBabe419
05-09-2001, 02:47 PM
I dont own any pit bulls, but I think pit bulls are one of the most sweetest dogs in the world. What I mean is, the reason these poor creatures are mean is their rotten owners. Like, their owners make them mean by abusing them just because they have a look that the are mean so they make them mean. I just get so steamed when I hear everybody(tv shows, news)talk about pit bull attacks when there are so many other breeds of dogs that also attack people or kids in this case as much as pit bulls and rottweilers and other misunderstood breeds of dogs. I have heard several labs and goldens attack and hurt people(I am not putting those breeds down, I actually own a lab and golden). I think they should stop just talking about dog attacks or if they want to continue talk about all the dog attacks, not just pit bulls. Sorry, I wrote so much. This topic is a good one. I feel so bad for those poor mistreated pit bulls. http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/frown.gif http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/frown.gif http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/mad.gif

*Stephanie*
*Lab Lover*

karlicat
05-09-2001, 04:42 PM
Even though i have never really met a pit bull i am ABSOLUTELY SURE they cannot be nearly as bad as what the media makes them out to be. They are only doing that for a *story* and that makes me so MAD!!!
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P.S. Simba is really cool and adorable!!

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