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Digi
12-19-2013, 12:12 PM
I demanded Milo (formerly Jack) to be handed over to me. I have been trying to convince my co-worker to rehome him, ONLY because they are horrible horrible HORRIBLE owners. They had 2 and I convinced them to rehome that one a year ago. So its been a long year trying to get this dog away from her.

Sadly it took Milo attacking a 10yr old for it to happen. Its 100% the adults fault as they allowed that child to tease, taunt, and hurt Milo over the years, & he finally snapped.

Milo is under quarantine at my place (the Health Department was over yesterday am) per the law. He isn't allowed to leave my property until they return on the 24th to see him again.

The first few hours with him was pure hell. He wouldn't let me open the kennel, and he barked & growled non-stop. When he finally let me open the door, I popped a muzzle on him & its been peaceful since.

Hes calm, quiet (except when its potty time), and is learning that hes not the boss, and his aggression is unacceptable. He gets along well with Digi & Charlie, but poor Cam(cat) hates him (she'll warm up in about 2 weeks).

I bought him a 2nd muzzle that is larger and much more comfortable (soft) for when we are at home. He has to keep the firm one on while we are at work, as its impossible for him to get that one off. I just cannot risk the health of the other 3 over his comfort while at work. At least if I'm home, I can intervene if he gets the softer one off & tries anything.

Hes been getting better everyday, and is improving so much. He has never been quiet in his whole life & has never been relaxed. Even though he is muzzled, he seems content. He lays by my feet, jumps up asking for a pat (which is a huge deal as petting him use to result in being nipped or snarled at), is eating (I switched him to raw), and wants to play. He has had 0 accidents in the house, so we took his diaper off last night.

Left to right: Digi (6yr old F English Shepherd), Charlie (3yr old M Poodle/JRT), and Milo (3-4yr old M pure JRT) wearing the soft muzzle.

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Taz_Zoee
12-19-2013, 01:25 PM
Hello! Nice to see Digi and Charlie! And good for you for taking on this challenge and ultimately saving Milo from uncertainty. He is a cutey.

I look forward to hearing updates on Milo's progress! :D

cassiesmom
12-19-2013, 01:33 PM
Hello, Digi and Charlie! And how do you do, Milo the JRT! I'm so sorry that your life has been very difficult. I'm glad you can use a softer muzzle when your new people are with you. Paws and fingers crossed that everything will go well this next week, you will get used to your new home, and this will be the beginning of a much better life for you. I've read that JRTs are smart and have lots of energy, so I am sure your new people will help you learn all kinds of new skills like playing, asking for petting and more.

Digi
12-19-2013, 02:28 PM
Thanks guys :)

Another employee just told me they are positive Milo is between 5-7yrs old. Thats a long time to live in those conditions, & sad that other co-workers know his age better then his owner does :(

lolli94
12-19-2013, 03:59 PM
Poor, poor Milo! What a rough life you've had! Prayers that everything continues to go well for you! :love:

Karen
12-19-2013, 04:41 PM
Thank goodness you finally convinced them to give him up! And don;t be a stranger, kiddo!

Digi
12-19-2013, 05:00 PM
Hi Karen,

I've been so busy as I'm the VP of the turtle rescue, which is now a Canadian Charity. So I hardly have any time for anything.

Its awesome how fast we are growing. It'll be better once we get a facility, as I'll be the caretaker and will manage the online stuff. So I'll have more of a life then

mrspunkysmom
12-19-2013, 05:18 PM
Bless you for taking in Milo. That is a huge task before you. I'm sure Milo will come around.

Can the health dept do anything to prevent your coworker from owning any other dogs or even all pets? Perhaps a pet rock is more their speed?

Alysser
12-19-2013, 05:44 PM
Ever since I got bit by a Jack Russel pretty viciously last year, I don't really trust them, but I am so glad Milo is in good hands. He actually really looks like the one that place Milo LOL. He sounds like quite the challenge but I am so glad he had you rather than the only option of being put down. Shelters would have never worked with him. I think MOST dogs do deserve a second chance...especially one that lived in nothing but a hell hole. Is he now considered a "dangerous dog"?

I really hope he improves, and I think he will. Look forward to hearing more about little Milo.

I feel as thought JRT are a breed that can either be REALLY good or REALLY bad for a family. Seems like they need the right type of owner to not be out of control and dominant.

Digi
12-20-2013, 12:54 PM
Is he now considered a "dangerous dog"?

I feel as thought JRT are a breed that can either be REALLY good or REALLY bad for a family. Seems like they need the right type of owner to not be out of control and dominant.

The Health Department said Milo is in 0 trouble. I think everyone admitted what the child had been doing to the dog, but most likely sugar coated it a bit. So he is not labeled as one.

However I personally will handle him as such. He must be muzzled at all times when out in public (after his quarantine of course), but I'll only allow that with his soft muzzle & once I feel he really isn't a threat to anyone 75% of the time. The muzzle will be for people or children I do not spot in time that run up to him, or if I drop the leash, etc.

I personally cannot ever trust a dog like him in public. I have seen what he can do, and I know he was mistreated for so darn long. Its honestly not fair to the public nor himself.

I do plan to take him to the dog park to help socialize him in the warmer months, WITH the permission of everyone already in the park. I did the same when I first got Charlie (minus the muzzle), as I didn't know him well enough. Everyone was fine & he was a pretty good dog, just too excited & hyper.

Karen
12-20-2013, 02:34 PM
We are glad the Health Department understands the truth of the situation, you and he are lucky in that regard. And I do think caution is the wise way to go, considering how long he was subjected to that awful treatment!

Alysser
12-20-2013, 04:45 PM
The Health Department said Milo is in 0 trouble. I think everyone admitted what the child had been doing to the dog, but most likely sugar coated it a bit. So he is not labeled as one.

However I personally will handle him as such. He must be muzzled at all times when out in public (after his quarantine of course), but I'll only allow that with his soft muzzle & once I feel he really isn't a threat to anyone 75% of the time. The muzzle will be for people or children I do not spot in time that run up to him, or if I drop the leash, etc.

I personally cannot ever trust a dog like him in public. I have seen what he can do, and I know he was mistreated for so darn long. Its honestly not fair to the public nor himself.

I do plan to take him to the dog park to help socialize him in the warmer months, WITH the permission of everyone already in the park. I did the same when I first got Charlie (minus the muzzle), as I didn't know him well enough. Everyone was fine & he was a pretty good dog, just too excited & hyper.

I understand completely of why you wouldn't trust him without it! That's what muzzles are made for. And of course, there's always the one kid with the one parent that doesn't watch the kid, and then you end up with a dog bite on YOUR plate and a lawsuit because the idiot parents can't control their kids.

dukedogsmom
12-20-2013, 10:13 PM
That poor dog. No telling what he's been through in his life. I'm so glad you have him now. My Rose has trouble relaxing fully at times, too. Things like opening cabinet doors or refridgerator door makes her back up. Sounds like Milo is going to do great with you. Wonderful that he's made such progress already.

Digi
12-21-2013, 12:43 AM
Wonderful that he's made such progress already.

With progress, there is always a step back.

Milo just tried to bite me. I refused to back off as he is no longer the boss of anything. I just kept trying to repeat the same action until he pretty much gave up.

Who knew it could take 10 mins to get 1 bootie back on :rolleyes:

He is wearing booties on his front paws as he clawed his face all up today while trying to get his muzzle off. Then when I put him in the XL kennel for muzzle free time, he licked his paws raw! His little toes were so swollen :(

His ear seemed to be too red & his face was a little puffy. I gave him some benadrl to see if it would help. His ear, face, and paws are looking much nicer. His paws are so soft from all the licking.

I need to get him some winter boots, as it must be the snow thats causing it. There is no salt of any kind on my walkway or front yard (where the pups potty). I'm soooo not prepared for another dog, blarg!

Bonny
12-21-2013, 10:34 AM
Milo is in good hands with you. Trust, time, & patience will pay off. Congratulations on your new home Milo. :)

Asiel
12-21-2013, 01:38 PM
So sad to know what kind of life Milo has had until now. People really stump me at times. Such a cutie, I'll pray he might be so sweet that he's found his home--sounds like he's already accepting the new rules.

cassiesmom
12-21-2013, 02:24 PM
Just checking in for an update. Fingers and paws crossed that things will go well! I hope the Benadryl helps! Milo, your person is going to have you wear boots to protect your feeties for now.

Digi
12-21-2013, 07:18 PM
He had a really good day today!

He is perfectly fine with me putting on the booties now. He doesn't even try to fight me at all. He does get too crazy/hyper/snarly with stuffies that squeak, so he is banned from those for now (I don't want to promote any growling as I'm working so hard on squashing his negative attitude). He enjoys the big rope, and the squeaky ball. I want to get him a beef bone from my Halal butcher, I think he'll love to chew on it during the day while I am at work.

He was muzzle free today, but tied. He had 0 issues through the day and was very well behaved.

He learned a valuable lesson outside. I tried to stop him from using his face as a snow plow, as the top layer is ice (freezing rain). He kept doing it until it cut his little nose :( His nose is fine. It wasn't very deep so the bleeding stopped quickly. This was the biggest reason I had him muzzle free today.

I set up the XL kennel in the basement (my pc is down there & so are all my critters). He loves to sleep in it. I have him tied to the base of the door, so he can come out & sleep on the big dog bed beside my PC. He has a water bowl & toys down here.

I find he is most relaxed down here, as the furnace fan is always on & makes noise that drowns out everything else. I also like it. So I had him sleep in the kennel down here last night. He didn't make a peep all night & was a happy little bugger this am when I got up.

He is currently passed out in his kennel with booties on his front paws :)

Last night we also had a HUGE break through with him. We don't think he hates the cat, nor wants to hurt her. We think he is just TOO interested in sniffing her, which she doesn't approve of yet. Last night we allowed him to run free on the main level of the house with his muzzle on. Cam came down the stairs to slink into the kitchen. Milo stood up & I told him to lay down and be quiet. He obeyed & stared at Cam. She came into the same room to get a drink of water. She has been slinking from room to room to look at him all day.

Happy day :)

Karen
12-21-2013, 08:57 PM
Oh, wow! Progress on all fronts! I used to laugh when our dogs would do that "snow plow" maneuver, but it was the Saint Bernards who loved doing that the most, and they were furry enough to never get damaged by any ice!

The funniest ever was a dog that I took care of often, who belong to my bosses. Tyler was a sheltie, and on walks would look for any big enough patch of unsullied snow, leap into it and flop down on his back in wriggle! I called it his "doggie snow angel" move, and it made me laugh every time!

RatterpriseCommand
12-21-2013, 09:20 PM
Oh dear, oh dear!

Such poor ownership! Why are people allowed to do such cruel things to defenseless animals?

Glad that Milo is in a much better situation and so glad to hear that he is doing so well! Bravisimo to all! I look forward to hearing more success.

Digi
12-24-2013, 12:56 PM
Last night was really bad.

Milo hates the cat & wants to kill her. He was loose with his muzzle when Cam walked into the living room. Milo charged and started attacking her. She screamed and fought only to get away from him (he pinned her to the wall). When I got him off of her, he had her fur in his mouth.

We tried putting her in her crate for him to see her safely, so we could make him sit and settle down. No amount of trying to get him to sit, food, toys, shouting, clapping our hands, snapping the leash worked. He was totally deaf to the world.

After that, he wouldn't stop barking and was totally out of control. I put his bark collar on for the first time since he was at my place as we still rent & I don't want Digi & Charlie kicked out because of him.

It zapped him & that stopped him in his tracks. No more out of control deaf dog.

We are going to try with Cam in a crate again to see if we can get him to settle down. The bark collar will be on him & we are hoping it'll help us try to get control over the situation, as he listens so darn well to it. If the bark collar isn't enough, we'll try the remote control collar (it also has a remote beep). Our goal is to break his death concentration so we can TRY to get him to sit and do other commands around the cat.

Any other suggestions PLEASE share. I have worked with aggressive dogs before (why its going so well), but they were not totally deaf to the world like this.

Please note, that Cam is not your typical cat. She was content in the crate with Milo on the other side of it. When we let her out, she was purring at my feet & remained in the living room with Milo, but out of reach.

Digi
12-25-2013, 05:30 PM
Today was a good day, but with bad news.

Milo has been free all day with his muzzle on. He saw the cat and I saw him fighting with himself if he should chase her. He did chase her a little, but it wasn't kill mode. He chased her a very short distance then stopped. He also watched her from his bed several times. He did get 1 good chase up the stairs, but the second I shouted at him, he stopped his chase.

I hope this contines as it seems like progress...I hope.

So the bad.

I thought he was licking his paws because he had no booties and it's mighty cold for the area.

Turns out he has a broken nail!!!!!!
I thought the nail looked a little off to the side, but I knew that dog nails are not always straight, so I ignored it. I regret that now.

The nail is dead, and is slowly falling off the foot. It's in an upwards position. The quick is alive, but most of it is attached to the dead nail. I am now worried that once the dead nail falls off, it'll allow the quick to be banged into.

I will contact a vet after the holiday as I do not feel it is an emergency at this time.

Has anyone experienced this before? Any advice?

I don't know if I should keep his boot on or off. I will get polysporne tomorrow to help ensure no infection starts. There is no infection from what I can see, and it doesn't appear to be very painful.

He walks fine on it. 0 limping.

Karen
12-25-2013, 05:55 PM
Can you trim off the dead part?

cassiesmom
12-26-2013, 05:40 AM
Yay, Milo! I'm glad you had a better day! Three cheers for you and your very patient person! You stopped chasing when your person said to stop :) I'm sure your person will help you learn all kinds of new ways to use up your JRT energy!

I'm sorry about Milo's nail. I was thinking the same thing as Karen, would he permit you to clip it? Or, maybe the vet needs to see and carefully clip it so as not to injure the part that isn't dead.

Digi
12-27-2013, 09:10 AM
carefully clip it so as not to injure the part that isn't dead.


That is what I want to do, but I need more of it to die. I'm also scared that if I do clip it, then it'll keep the tiny piece still inside the toe to become stuck & get infected. So for now I'm gently poking it, to see if its ready to fall off. When its really wiggly (which it is currently not), then I'l gently tug on it to see if it'll release.

Milo is still being naughty with the cat if we are not looking, esp if his bark collar is not on. The aggression is less, but still stressful on us. We ordered a new remote static collar that has really great ratings on its vibration correction.

RatterpriseCommand
12-27-2013, 02:44 PM
Dear Milo,

I'm glad to hear you are learning to stop when told! Remind your humans that it takes lots of patience to break old habits, particularly ones that have been around a looooong time. Don't forget to give them lots of love as a reward for their patience and try not to stress them out too much over the holidays. Here's a hint: less barking and less cat chasing are good ways to do that! The cat might even want to stick around if you chase her less. I know you have LOTS of JRT energy, but try to play instead of just be crazy.

Be careful with your nail. I hope it doesn't get dirt in it and when your human puts on the polysporin, try not to lick too much off!

Keep your nose up and good luck!

Digi
12-30-2013, 07:42 AM
The Health Department just left, so Milo is no longer under house arrest.

His dead nail fell off on its own yesterday. All there is left is a tiny bump of quick. I'm not sure if his nail will be able to recover. There is still no infection setting in. The area appears to be normal tissue (considering) and the toe is still not painful for him to walk/run on it and I can touch the toe.

The boo boo on his muzzle is nearly fully healed. 3/4 of the scab has fallen off, and I can see healthy furry skin!

cassiesmom
12-30-2013, 07:55 AM
Yay, Milo! Digi, I'm glad the boo-boo on Milo's face is healing, and that his nail is looking good. Does "no longer under house arrest" mean he can walk around without the muzzle? Or, that you can keep using the softer one? Is he still asking for petting? Milo, I know your person will keep helping you learn all your doggie skills. :)

Digi
12-30-2013, 10:39 AM
Does "no longer under house arrest" mean he can walk around without the muzzle? Or, that you can keep using the softer one? Is he still asking for petting? Milo, I know your person will keep helping you learn all your doggie skills. :)

I meant he is legally allowed off my property now. The government put him under quarantine at my house, and he was only allowed outside in the yard to potty.

Milo loves being petted now. He comes up to us all the time wanting a good long scratch all over. He no longer growls at us or the other dogs either. He is learning that his personal space BS is limited and doesn't fly in our house. He is allowed to growl if another dog jumps on him, but its not ok to growl if another dog sniffs or walks past him.

He has taken a fancy to Charlie. Digi has little interest in playing with other dogs, and she has already told him not to touch her. He respects her, which is how we want things in the house to function.

Milo chases & follows Charlie when he is off his leash in the house. Charlie does protest, but still wants to play. Milo only tries to do 1 thing to poor Charlie. We don't scold him for tormenting the hell out of Charlie that way, as we know after he is fixed, it'll turn into play. We don't want to ruin the friendship, as Charlie doesn't hate what Milo does, as Charlie likes to butt bump him to get the chase going. Its the jumping on & grabbing that Charlie doesn't fancy lol

lizbud
12-30-2013, 04:09 PM
I meant he is legally allowed off my property now. The government put him under quarantine at my house, and he was only allowed outside in the yard to potty.

Milo loves being petted now. He comes up to us all the time wanting a good long scratch all over. He no longer growls at us or the other dogs either. He is learning that his personal space BS is limited and doesn't fly in our house. He is allowed to growl if another dog jumps on him, but its not ok to growl if another dog sniffs or walks past him.

He has taken a fancy to Charlie. Digi has little interest in playing with other dogs, and she has already told him not to touch her. He respects her, which is how we want things in the house to function.

Milo chases & follows Charlie when he is off his leash in the house. Charlie does protest, but still wants to play. Milo only tries to do 1 thing to poor Charlie. We don't scold him for tormenting the hell out of Charlie that way, as we know after he is fixed, it'll turn into play. We don't want to ruin the friendship, as Charlie doesn't hate what Milo does, as Charlie likes to butt bump him to get the chase going. Its the jumping on & grabbing that Charlie doesn't fancy lol


Forgive me if you've already covered this, but why are you waiting to have Milo neutered? Seems like that would be a big help in changing his behavior.

Digi
12-30-2013, 05:06 PM
Forgive me if you've already covered this, but why are you waiting to have Milo neutered? Seems like that would be a big help in changing his behavior.

Its a long waiting list to get him in. 3 months is actually really fast compared to what the waiting list use to be when the program started up a few years ago.

For a male dog its $75 to get fixed
Chip is $20 (he is getting this done)
3 shots are $15 each (he doesn't need this)
Minor health repairs are about $10-20 each if I recall (he doesn't need this)

I want to support this program, & my vet refuses to take my money for her to fix him herself.

Not to mention we were not looking nor wanting a 3rd dog. Esp a dog that has bitten a child, its not an easy thing to deal/cope with. But he has so much good potential, and we are suckers :p

Since Milo has arrived, I have spent nearly $200 on things he needs (most of it going towards his aggression issues). He still needs a seatbelt, proper winter footwear, and a warmer winter coat. I also need to get a new water dish that attaches to the big metal kennel (lost the attachment when we moved into the house, blah), and he'll need a life vest for water activity this summer. I'm sure I'm missing things that he'll need to be able to adjust to our life style.

Then there is also the extra mouth to feed. They all eat raw, which is not cheap.

My plans to get a microwave are now gone lol

cassiesmom
12-30-2013, 07:21 PM
There is a waiting list for the program. I hope Milo moves up quickly and it may be less than three months. Could the health department help you get in sooner, considering the circumstances? If he is neutered sooner, would that improve your ability to help him learn new behaviors? Maybe three months is not a long enough amount of time that it would make a difference, though. I would like to say again, bless you for taking Milo in! :) And hugs to Charlie and Digi too!

Digi
12-30-2013, 11:56 PM
There is a waiting list for the program. I hope Milo moves up quickly and it may be less than three months. Could the health department help you get in sooner, considering the circumstances? If he is neutered sooner, would that improve your ability to help him learn new behaviors? Maybe three months is not a long enough amount of time that it would make a difference, though. I would like to say again, bless you for taking Milo in! :) And hugs to Charlie and Digi too!

The health department only cares about rabies. All they did was look at him from afar through a window, then leave. The guy didn't come anywhere near my place.

From what I read, no one gets in sooner. Everyone has to obey the waiting list. It kinda sucks, but I don't think it's the end of the world right now.

Milo and Cam were sharing the same dog bed tonight.

The remote static collar came in today. At first I thought it wasn't working as Milo was chasing the cat all over. The directions suck. So I pressed random buttons and now understand how it works. 1,2,3 is low med high. 4,5,6 is multi pulse. Not sure the strength for those 3. Then there is crazy vibrate. Milo hates it. It really breaks his focus.

After a short while of corrections on stop trying to chase the cat, he gave up. Once he layed down, Cam came straight over to him and fell asleep a couple feet away. They both got up over the evening, and both ended up sleeping near the other.

Cam loves to play with dogs, and really wants to be his friend. I am hoping he will understand quickly that Cam is not a squeaky toy.

I look forward to tomorrow. I really hope the crazy vibrating will allow him to control himself. The muzzle will remain for a very long time.

Digi
01-02-2014, 12:20 AM
Mile has had a good few days.

The static/vibrating collar has made him into a new dog. His drive to hurt and chase the cat is really low. He now will gently interact with her, and has shared the big dog bed with her many times now.

Today we had his muzzle off, and allowed him to chase a ball with Digi & Charlie. He has some manors to learn, but hes pretty good at dropping the ball. Hes just terrible at getting the ball first, so I have to fake throw & then gently throw the ball to his feet so he can get it some of the time.

He was trying to get frisky with Digi today, that didn't go well on his part. She shot him down quickly, and gave him a lot of lip. Poor guy :p

Last night he indicated that he wanted some attention. I picked him up & held him like a baby on my lap & gave him a nice chest rub. He really enjoyed it & enjoyed a gentle hug.

Sadly his interactions with Trevor are almost 0 right now. Trevor cannot pet, walk, or play with any of the dog right now. He slipped on our outside step breaking his hand yesterday. Neither of us got any sleep that night (the ER visit was pretty fast IMO), and after I brought Trevor home, I had to go to work. When I got home, I passed out in bed, and slept for 19hrs. I was so out of it, that I didn't remember that my dad had called me in the am to see how Trevor was doing. All that means, is that the poor dogs had to hold it for 19hrs. No one had an accident! Mind you they all exploded outside the second they hit the snow. I'm so happy Milo has bladder control. Dealing with Charlies 0 bladder control was very frustrating, as he was worse then a puppy.

Karen
01-02-2014, 12:53 AM
So glad to hear Milo is doing well, cautiously optimistic! Sorry to hear about Trevor, but glad the ER visit was at least not too bad in terms of timing, I am sure they all staff heavily for New Years just n case!

Digi
01-02-2014, 01:16 AM
So glad to hear Milo is doing well, cautiously optimistic! Sorry to hear about Trevor, but glad the ER visit was at least not too bad in terms of timing, I am sure they all staff heavily for New Years just n case!

That could explain why they took him in so quickly. We only waited for about 25 mins or so in the waiting room. They got him an xray right away, but the wait for a dr took a few hours. I was shocked at the $22.00 parking though, that was sick :mad:

Digi
01-02-2014, 11:28 AM
Milo being a good boy. He is not a fan of laying on the dog bed, but he likes to lay on a blankets. Cam hes been really happy to snooze near him, but all claws come out if he comes too close as she doesn't fully trust him yet.

http://i.imgur.com/wVoMwrI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WI82YEQ.jpg

In this photo, you can kinda see Sammy the Axolotl in his tank. Him and Cam are really good friends. They like to play with each other through the tank (when it was on the floor)..

cassiesmom
01-02-2014, 11:35 AM
Yay, Milo! I enjoyed reading all the good updates -- you played ball, you got a lot of lovies and snuggles, and you are doing much better with your behaviors! Maybe in time you'll learn that a dog bed is comfortable. If not, it looks like you found a comfortable blanket where you can take a rest! :D Happy New Year to Milo, Charlie, Digi, Cam, Sammy and your people!

Digi
01-02-2014, 12:07 PM
Happy New Year to Milo, Charlie, Digi, Cam, Sammy and your people!

Happy New Year!

You forgot the:
6 Tarantulas
5 Turtles
12 Toads
6 Catfish
2 Shrimpies
and 200+ guppies lol :eek:

EDIT:
How could I forget the stow-a-way Post Tree Frog! Silly thing was in a box of greens at a warehouse. It was born free, but thought the trip to Ontario was a good idea (nope) lol

Karen
01-02-2014, 07:51 PM
Happy New Year!

You forgot the:
6 Tarantulas
5 Turtles
12 Toads
6 Catfish
2 Shrimpies
and 200+ guppies lol :eek:

EDIT:
How could I forget the stow-a-way Post Tree Frog! Silly thing was in a box of greens at a warehouse. It was born free, but thought the trip to Ontario was a good idea (nope) lol

Oh, goodness! Thank heavens you found it! Any picture? An Ontario winter is not frog-freindly, the natives gave all turned up the antifreeze and gone into hibernation long since!

Digi
01-06-2014, 12:52 PM
Milo was bad a few days ago & all freedom was revoked. He is back to square one, until he can show his interest in attacking poor Cam is 0.

He was acting normal around Cam & Cam was just laying there. I turned around to help put Trevor's temp hand cast on his broken hand when Milo bolted at Cam & started attacking her (he pinned her down).

There was no fur pulled, and no wounds. Cam was just pissed off that she was used at a squeeky toy (why Milo is banned from playing with such toys).

We think it could be her bell that is triggering him. So we attached the bell to Charlie for the weekend, and now its on Milo.

So far he wont even look at Cam. He turns his back to her & lays down.

snakemama
01-06-2014, 01:17 PM
Jasper here to say: Milo, let the kitty be your friend, they're much better butt-warmers than they are squeaky toys!

Digi
01-13-2014, 11:01 AM
Milo bit the cat again over the weekend :mad:

I got his human aggression under control, but getting him to lay off the cat is one heck of a challenge! So far we just locking the cat up in the basement so he can have free time in the house. Then we tie him back up (in the living room), so the cat can be free to roam the house.

Any advice on this cat issue. Hes gotten less aggressive with her, so now I can't even tell when hes going to strike :(

cassiesmom
01-15-2014, 09:16 PM
Milo, I hope you had a good day today. :) Thinking of you and your caring person Digi!

Digi
01-16-2014, 12:37 PM
As long as Milo is tied, he gets along with Cam just fine. She'll snuggle up to him on the big dog bed (he is unmuzzled when indoors now), she'll drink out of his water dish, and she can run about like a spaz & hes fine.

Its the second he is free he hunts her down to bite her (she doesn't even have to be moving). He has never broken her skin, and never left a mark on her, but biting is unacceptable. She has clawed the hell out of his chest, ears, and neck for the few times he has pinned her down. He doesn't seem to care at all about it. :(

Karen
01-16-2014, 01:05 PM
As long as Milo is tied, he gets along with Cam just fine. She'll snuggle up to him on the big dog bed (he is unmuzzled when indoors now), she'll drink out of his water dish, and she can run about like a spaz & hes fine.

Its the second he is free he hunts her down to bite her (she doesn't even have to be moving). He has never broken her skin, and never left a mark on her, but biting is unacceptable. She has clawed the hell out of his chest, ears, and neck for the few times he has pinned her down. He doesn't seem to care at all about it. :(

Sounds like a prey drive that will not be broken, I am glad he is least okay when he is tied. If you do not want him to forever have to be tied, I think a no-cat home is going to be necessary.

Digi
01-16-2014, 01:44 PM
Sounds like a prey drive that will not be broken, I am glad he is least okay when he is tied. If you do not want him to forever have to be tied, I think a no-cat home is going to be necessary.

Getting rid of the cat isn't an option. Milo is only tied when we are not home & he does just fine on it, as he gets to cuddle with his boyfriend Charlie (they get along great) and has plenty of space to move/play.

Karen
01-16-2014, 02:31 PM
I never thought you have to get rid of the cat, just if you want Milo to be able to be untied when you are not home, Milo himself might be better off in a no-kitty home. I know Cami was there first!