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The Cat Factory
10-26-2002, 11:30 PM
Ok...this is a game where you work your way through the alphabet. We start with an animal that starts with A, then work our way to Z, and after we finish, we can start a new catagory :)
Alligater
Cookiebaker
10-26-2002, 11:32 PM
Billy goat
The Cat Factory
10-26-2002, 11:42 PM
Cat
ownerof3dogs
10-26-2002, 11:46 PM
Dog
The Cat Factory
10-26-2002, 11:50 PM
Ferret
Aspen and Misty
10-26-2002, 11:58 PM
G oat
The Cat Factory
10-27-2002, 12:00 AM
Horse
All Creatures Great And Small
10-27-2002, 12:04 AM
I
Iguana
The Cat Factory
10-27-2002, 12:07 AM
Jaguar
The Cat Factory
10-27-2002, 12:29 AM
Muskrat
All Creatures Great And Small
10-27-2002, 12:30 AM
Nanny Goat
The Cat Factory
10-27-2002, 12:41 AM
Q...hmm:confused: I can't think of any that start with Q!
Quokka
http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/plants_animals/photos/5x5/mammal_quokka.jpg
:D
The Cat Factory
10-27-2002, 01:00 AM
Aww!! What a cutie!
Rabbit
ownerof3dogs
10-27-2002, 01:06 AM
Snake
The Cat Factory
10-27-2002, 01:21 AM
Tarantula
Cookiebaker
10-27-2002, 06:08 AM
Urchin (sea)
jenluckenbach
10-27-2002, 06:11 AM
V)izsla ( can I use a dog breed?)
Cookiebaker
10-27-2002, 06:28 AM
Whale
The Cat Factory
10-27-2002, 03:41 PM
I don't think there's any that start with X...so i'll do Y :)
Yak
Vermontcat
10-27-2002, 03:43 PM
Z is for zebra of course!:) (I like black and white animals):)
wolf_Q
10-27-2002, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by Cookiebaker
Whale
Nooooo...............WOLF!!!! LOL
jenluckenbach
10-27-2002, 05:42 PM
Why don't we try colors?
A)qua
Miss Meow
10-27-2002, 06:05 PM
B lue
Cookiebaker
10-27-2002, 06:46 PM
Chocolate Brown
Karen
10-27-2002, 06:50 PM
Dark blue
Cookiebaker
10-27-2002, 06:53 PM
Evergreen
slleipnir
10-27-2002, 06:55 PM
Fushia
Cookiebaker
10-27-2002, 07:00 PM
Grape purple
jenluckenbach
10-27-2002, 07:03 PM
H)eather grey
Cookiebaker
10-27-2002, 07:08 PM
Indigo
Cookiebaker
10-27-2002, 07:09 PM
Wow, Miss Meow, great minds think alike! :D :D
AmberLee
10-27-2002, 07:29 PM
Jonquil yellow
jenluckenbach
10-27-2002, 08:25 PM
K elly green
Vermontcat
10-27-2002, 08:26 PM
LIME GREEN :D
ownerof3dogs
10-27-2002, 08:27 PM
LIME GREEN
ownerof3dogs
10-27-2002, 08:29 PM
Vermontcat
Thats funny you weren't there when I went to post LOL. And you chose to write in lime green too. Thats so funny:D
Vermontcat
10-27-2002, 08:29 PM
Ownerof3dogs, that is so weird, I was gonna say Kelly Green and Jen beat me to it so I changed it to Lime Green and I just barely beat you to it!:p
jenluckenbach
10-27-2002, 08:42 PM
M)agenta
kingrattus
10-27-2002, 10:42 PM
Navajowhite
The Cat Factory
10-28-2002, 12:00 AM
Orange
ownerof3dogs
10-28-2002, 12:19 AM
Purple
The Cat Factory
10-28-2002, 12:43 AM
Q...anyone know of a color that starts with Q?
I'll do R...
Royal Blue
popcornbird
10-28-2002, 01:28 AM
SKY BLUE
AmberLee
10-28-2002, 01:44 AM
Turquoise
lynnestankard
10-28-2002, 10:13 AM
Ultramarine
Lynne
DoggiesAreTheBest
10-28-2002, 10:29 AM
Voilet
NoahsMommy
10-28-2002, 10:44 AM
White...
kingrattus
10-28-2002, 11:25 AM
X???
Yellowgreen
catland
10-28-2002, 03:23 PM
I can't find a color that starts with a Z, so lets go to a new subject. How about a fruit or vegetable.
I'll start with
APPLE.
The Cat Factory
10-28-2002, 04:02 PM
Beet
popcornbird
10-28-2002, 04:20 PM
Carrot
DoggiesAreTheBest
10-28-2002, 04:25 PM
Dates
popcornbird
10-28-2002, 04:47 PM
Eggplant
AmberLee
10-28-2002, 05:11 PM
Figs
popcornbird
10-28-2002, 05:14 PM
Guava .................................... and Grapes :p
Cookiebaker
10-28-2002, 05:27 PM
Hot pepper
lynnestankard
10-28-2002, 05:38 PM
Iceberg Lettuce
Lynne
AmberLee
10-28-2002, 05:42 PM
Jicama -- yum!
Cookiebaker
10-28-2002, 05:47 PM
Kale
(Amberlee, what is a Jicama?? It sounds intriguing...)
Desert Arabian
10-28-2002, 05:50 PM
Leek
AmberLee
10-28-2002, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Cookiebaker
(Amberlee, what is a Jicama?? It sounds intriguing...)
It looks like a big brown turnip, but it tastes like a sweet radish. You cut them into strips and eat them raw, or shread them and have them in salads. They're rather like Kohl Rabi, but bigger. I'll see if I can find more info and post it. (I first heard of them about 12 years ago, apparently we hadn't been importing them previously or I just had missed them until then.)
Lemons
Desert Arabian
10-28-2002, 05:55 PM
Monteray Jack Cheese
RockyRoad
10-28-2002, 05:58 PM
Nectarine(spelling!)
Desert Arabian
10-28-2002, 06:00 PM
Olive
AmberLee
10-28-2002, 06:18 PM
Persimmons
Cookiebaker
10-28-2002, 06:22 PM
Q???:confused:
Radish
(Amberlee, about the jicama, I *love* kohl rabi, so I will have to look around & see if I can find jicama around here. Thanks for the info!) :D
jenluckenbach
10-28-2002, 06:25 PM
OUT OF ORDER, BUT.........
Quince
The Cat Factory
10-28-2002, 06:28 PM
Squash
Cookiebaker
10-28-2002, 06:30 PM
Good Q, jenluckenbach,
Summer Squash
The Cat Factory
10-28-2002, 06:40 PM
Tomatoe
Cookiebaker
10-28-2002, 06:45 PM
Ugly fruit
The Cat Factory
10-28-2002, 06:52 PM
Vegetable?? :D There's probably one that starts with a V, but I can't think of it...
Cookiebaker
10-28-2002, 06:56 PM
What about Valencia Orange?
Desert Arabian
10-28-2002, 07:57 PM
Watermelon
Desert Arabian
10-28-2002, 07:59 PM
Xtra moldy fruits and veggies :p
Cookiebaker
10-28-2002, 07:59 PM
Yam
Ha ha ha Xtra moldy fruit! :D
Desert Arabian
10-28-2002, 08:01 PM
Zucchini
Desert Arabian
10-28-2002, 08:02 PM
I think we should do types of flowers/plants.
Just a suggestion.
Cookiebaker
10-28-2002, 08:03 PM
Amoryllis (sp???)
Desert Arabian
10-28-2002, 08:04 PM
Blue Astor
Cookiebaker
10-28-2002, 08:05 PM
Carnation
Felicia's Mom
10-28-2002, 08:21 PM
daphodil (sp(
Desert Arabian
10-28-2002, 09:12 PM
Easter Lily
Desert Arabian
10-28-2002, 09:15 PM
I know I really shouldn't do two in a row- but I got a really good one for "F"- so I have to put it down. :)
Foxglove
Uabassoon
10-28-2002, 09:28 PM
gerber daisy
Desert Arabian
10-28-2002, 09:30 PM
Hyacinth
p.s. I have never heard of a "gerber daisy"- I'll have to look up a picture.
Nomilynn
10-28-2002, 09:38 PM
iris
AmberLee
10-29-2002, 12:06 AM
Jasmine
Desert Arabian
10-29-2002, 06:10 AM
Kittentail
DoggiesAreTheBest
10-29-2002, 06:15 AM
Lilacs
lynnestankard
10-29-2002, 07:16 AM
Magnolia
Lynne
catland
10-29-2002, 10:26 AM
Nasturtium
luckies4me
10-29-2002, 11:04 AM
Orchid :D My favorite!
Vermontcat
10-29-2002, 12:30 PM
Pansy!
I love the way they look like kitty faces.:)
luckies4me
10-29-2002, 12:40 PM
Q? :confused: Hmmm. How about an R. Rose They smell yummy!
luckies4me
10-29-2002, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by Vermontcat
Pansy!
I love the way they look like kitty faces.:)
Hmm, now I need to go look up pansies. If they look like cute little kitties I need to get some!:D
Vermontcat
10-29-2002, 01:06 PM
I found a Q!
QUEEN ANNE'S LACE!
luckiesforme, I have seen a jigsaw puzzle of kitty faces hiding in pansies, they really blend in!
Vermontcat
10-29-2002, 01:08 PM
Since she did R already here is a
SUNFLOWER!!! for the letter S.
luckies4me
10-29-2002, 01:22 PM
T for Tulip
Oh how I want to see that puzzle!
Desert Arabian
10-29-2002, 03:49 PM
Unicorn Plant
AmberLee
10-29-2002, 04:29 PM
Violets (and their cousins, violas! ;))
Nomilynn
10-29-2002, 04:32 PM
water lilies
luckies4me
10-29-2002, 04:59 PM
I don't know of an X one, but can we do food as the topic next? :P
Desert Arabian
10-29-2002, 05:34 PM
Yew
catland
10-29-2002, 05:47 PM
Zinnia.
per luckies4me - next topic - FOOD:D
Cookiebaker
10-29-2002, 05:49 PM
Apples
The Cat Factory
10-29-2002, 05:50 PM
Bread
Nomilynn
10-29-2002, 06:18 PM
COOKIES!!!! yum!! :D
or cake.. mmmmm.. cake :D
Desert Arabian
10-29-2002, 06:48 PM
Dark chocolate
Cookiebaker
10-29-2002, 07:03 PM
Elephant Ears (a kind of cookie my Mom made when I was little. :D )
AmberLee
10-29-2002, 07:03 PM
eggplant
Nomilynn
10-29-2002, 07:30 PM
fudge!!!
can you tell my fave kind of food? :p
AmberLee
10-29-2002, 07:38 PM
goose
Nomilynn
10-29-2002, 07:42 PM
ham
NoahsMommy
10-29-2002, 07:49 PM
Ice cream
Cookiebaker
10-29-2002, 07:55 PM
Jello Jigglers
luckies4me
10-29-2002, 09:08 PM
WHere have I been , lol!
How's about ketchup, :p Couldn't think of anything else.
Kit Kats! hehe thought of something else! Whoo hoo!
popcornbird
10-30-2002, 01:23 AM
Are we doing foods now? :confused: Oh well, I think we are, so let's go................hmmmmm..............
LASAGNA! MMMMMMMMMMMMM! :p
Nomilynn
10-30-2002, 01:54 AM
maple syrup :D
The Cat Factory
10-30-2002, 03:04 AM
Niçoise Tofu Skillet Supper...I cheated :D I found it at www.bettycrocker.com because I couldn't think of anything for N :D
popcornbird
10-30-2002, 03:06 AM
Oyster sauce??? (Only thing I could think of)
lynnestankard
10-30-2002, 05:32 AM
Parmesan Cheese
Lynne
jenluckenbach
10-30-2002, 05:41 AM
Q)uiche
Desert Arabian
10-30-2002, 06:10 AM
Ragu pasta sauce
DoggiesAreTheBest
10-30-2002, 06:25 AM
Soy Sauce
Cookiebaker
10-30-2002, 06:32 AM
Tortilla Taco
luckies4me
10-30-2002, 09:51 AM
u? How's about upside down cake, hehe :p
DoggiesAreTheBest
10-30-2002, 09:54 AM
Vidalia Onions
luckies4me
10-30-2002, 09:56 AM
LOL! At first I thought it said vanilla onions! I was like what! Vanilla onions? How grose, lol.:D
luckies4me
10-30-2002, 09:57 AM
Oh yes, I forgot to go. Lets see, a W
watercrest
jenluckenbach
10-30-2002, 02:42 PM
OH SURE, leave me with "X"....
how about "Y" Y)ams
Vermontcat
10-30-2002, 03:22 PM
Zucchini bread!
Ok, can I start the next one, how about names of Pet Talk pets.(Like S for Samantha, who wants to start with an A name):)
luckies4me
10-30-2002, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by jenluckenbach
OH SURE, leave me with "X"....
how about "Y" Y)ams
sorry, lol :p
luckies4me
10-30-2002, 03:38 PM
A for Abby
Dakota's Mommy
10-30-2002, 03:57 PM
B for Brian
Desert Arabian
10-30-2002, 04:23 PM
Charlie
slleipnir
10-30-2002, 05:03 PM
Drake
luckies4me
10-30-2002, 05:41 PM
Edwina
Cookiebaker
10-30-2002, 05:46 PM
Floppsy
Desert Arabian
10-30-2002, 05:50 PM
George
Vermontcat
10-30-2002, 06:09 PM
Honey or Huney (there are two of them!):)
Nomilynn
10-31-2002, 12:32 AM
this one is harder.. I can't think of an I or a J... this will bump it up so maybe someone can help it along! :confused:
AmberLee
10-31-2002, 12:51 AM
Inka!
lynnestankard
10-31-2002, 05:48 AM
Jupiter
Lynne
toughCookie
10-31-2002, 06:09 AM
kelsey...I think there is a cat named Kelsey but I can't remember who's cat!:confused:
jenluckenbach
10-31-2002, 07:09 AM
L)ucas
That's my cat.:D
AmberLee
10-31-2002, 09:40 AM
Marius (or Mackarella or Midnight or Misty or Murf or Mimi or Ms. Vicki or Miss Chevious or ... we've got a lot of Ms to choose among, don't we?)
Tubby & Peanut's Mom
10-31-2002, 10:49 AM
Noel
Tubby & Peanut's Mom
10-31-2002, 10:50 AM
Oskar (I seem to remember one out there)
Tubby & Peanut's Mom
10-31-2002, 10:51 AM
And my main reason for filling up the N & O
Peanut! :D
Vermontcat
10-31-2002, 01:13 PM
All right Tubby & Peanut's mom, why didn't you want to keep going and find a Q name?:p
I looked around for a while and the only one I could come up with is Quincey (Bnormal's doberman who recently went to the RB):(
So who has an R now?
Tubby & Peanut's Mom
10-31-2002, 01:26 PM
Sorry Vermontcat. I guess I didn't think that far ahead. :rolleyes: Quincey is a good one, or I would have taken Queenie since it seems so many of us have one of those around the house, even though that might not be their real name. ;) :)
Ok R.......
slleipnir
10-31-2002, 01:39 PM
Reece
AmberLee
10-31-2002, 01:42 PM
Sassafras Root (RB) or Sassy
Vermontcat
10-31-2002, 01:46 PM
Aww, I just missed S for Samantha,
so I will be nice and say T is for TUBBY!!!:D
jenluckenbach
10-31-2002, 02:06 PM
U)tah
This will be cataholic's next cat, let's see if she finds this post and yells at me!!!:eek:
AmberLee
10-31-2002, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by jenluckenbach
...let's see if she finds this post and yells at me!!!...
Hee, hee, hee.
Vickie (or for those with a literary turn, Mitford's own Violet... :rolleyes: :p)
AmberLee
10-31-2002, 05:53 PM
Wee Winkie Whitewall ... Oh, bother, did I get his name right? Okay, in case not, Willow.
jenluckenbach
10-31-2002, 07:32 PM
Oh great, I've got "X" again!!!!!
Well. my own dearly departed
Y.Lee cat
AmberLee
10-31-2002, 09:35 PM
Xena
and
Zasper (RB)
Okay, this could be tricky ... could we do breeds of dogs/cats/rabbits/horses ... etc?
Cookiebaker
11-01-2002, 04:09 AM
Appaloosa (?) horse
jenluckenbach
11-01-2002, 04:57 AM
B)asenji
slleipnir
11-01-2002, 06:04 AM
Cleveland Bay
jenluckenbach
11-01-2002, 06:19 AM
D)evon rex (cat)
D)achshund (dog)
D)utch (rabbit)
DoggiesAreTheBest
11-01-2002, 06:23 AM
English Setter
Desert Arabian
11-01-2002, 03:10 PM
French Trotter (horse)
Finnish Horse
Fjord (horse)
Falabella (pony)
French Riding Pony
Freisian (horse)
French Bulldog
Falcon
Frog
Ferret
Fish
Finch
Firefly
Flea
Flicker (bird)
Flounder (fish)
Fly
Fox
Florida Panther
Tubby & Peanut's Mom
11-01-2002, 04:16 PM
Great Dane
wolflady
11-01-2002, 05:56 PM
Ibizan Hound
Irish Setter
Irish Water Spaniel
Irish Wolfhound
Italian Greyhound
jenluckenbach
11-01-2002, 06:07 PM
Jersey wooley (breed of rabbit)
slleipnir
11-01-2002, 06:46 PM
Knabstrup (horse)
Kangaroo
The Cat Factory
11-01-2002, 07:25 PM
LaPerm (cat breed)
Vermontcat
11-01-2002, 07:53 PM
MORGAN HORSE! from Vermont of course!:D
Felicia's Mom
11-01-2002, 08:59 PM
Newfoundland
luckies4me
11-01-2002, 09:04 PM
Ocicat! How I love spotted kitties!:D
Vermontcat
11-01-2002, 09:24 PM
I have two for P
PINTO and PALOMINO!
I even know one for Q that is a horse if no one else can think of one.:)
Cookiebaker
11-01-2002, 09:25 PM
Persian
slleipnir
11-01-2002, 10:15 PM
Quarter Horse
Nomilynn
11-01-2002, 11:37 PM
Ragdoll
toughCookie
11-02-2002, 12:56 AM
Marius (or Mackarella or Midnight or Misty or Murf or Mimi or Ms. Vicki or Miss Chevious or ... we've got a lot of Ms to choose among, don't we?)
lets not forget MUFFIN lol:)
toughCookie
11-02-2002, 01:05 AM
siamese
AmberLee
11-02-2002, 03:04 AM
Tonkanese (did I spell that right???)
The Cat Factory
11-02-2002, 03:11 AM
Ukrainian Saddle (Horse Breed)
jenluckenbach
11-02-2002, 05:10 AM
V)izsula (dog)(spelling?)
lynnestankard
11-02-2002, 06:31 AM
Westie (West Island Terrier)
Lynne
slleipnir
11-02-2002, 09:25 AM
I dont mean to be rude :[ but I think its west highland white terrior? hehe :D I can't think of anything for x..
luckies4me
11-02-2002, 09:54 AM
Xoloitzcuintle
It's a dog breed:)
Ok, so people know it as the Mexican Hairless. I plan to get a pup soon!
slleipnir
11-02-2002, 01:55 PM
Yorkshire terrior
Cookiebaker
11-02-2002, 02:00 PM
Zebra Finch
AmberLee
11-02-2002, 04:12 PM
What is the next alphabetical challenge, CookieBaker?
Cookiebaker
11-02-2002, 08:45 PM
How about stores and restaurants??
Uabassoon
11-02-2002, 08:49 PM
Arbys
Cookiebaker
11-02-2002, 08:49 PM
Burger King
The Cat Factory
11-02-2002, 08:55 PM
Cash Converters
Cookiebaker
11-02-2002, 09:12 PM
The Dent Dump
toughCookie
11-02-2002, 11:16 PM
eegee's
The Cat Factory
11-03-2002, 01:53 AM
Fresco's
wolf_Q
11-03-2002, 02:21 AM
Greenbacks (All-A-Dollar)
Cookiebaker
11-03-2002, 05:33 AM
Houlihans
jenluckenbach
11-03-2002, 05:47 AM
Ice cream world
Cookiebaker
11-03-2002, 05:50 AM
J&R's Music World
jenluckenbach
11-03-2002, 06:02 AM
K-Mart
Cookiebaker
11-03-2002, 06:22 AM
Lechters
jenluckenbach
11-03-2002, 06:40 AM
Macy's
CB, we must be the only ones awake the Sunday A.M.
Cookiebaker
11-03-2002, 06:55 AM
Nordstrams (sp?)
JLB, it's my favorite time of the week. The house is quiet and I can pettalk with no interruptions. :D
Vermontcat
11-03-2002, 08:44 AM
Outback Steakhouse
Cookiebaker
11-03-2002, 08:51 AM
JC Penney's
jenluckenbach
11-03-2002, 09:01 AM
Q-Mart
(it's very local, but it was all I could think of)
luckies4me
11-03-2002, 09:33 AM
Rallys hamburgers:D
jenluckenbach
11-03-2002, 11:43 AM
S)ears
Vermontcat
11-03-2002, 12:48 PM
Toys R Us :D
Desert Arabian
11-03-2002, 04:31 PM
Uptown Reality
(local)
Cookiebaker
11-03-2002, 07:08 PM
Victorias Secret
jenluckenbach
11-03-2002, 08:38 PM
W)awa
Cookiebaker
11-04-2002, 05:16 AM
Xpressmart
jenluckenbach
11-04-2002, 05:39 AM
Z)ern's (very local)
or
Z)ollinger's (went out of business so long ago, I can't even spell it)
jenluckenbach
11-04-2002, 05:41 AM
geographical areas (city, state, country etc.)
Cataholic
11-04-2002, 05:52 AM
ARIZONA~~~~
Cookiebaker
11-04-2002, 06:11 AM
Binghamton, NY
Cataholic
11-04-2002, 06:15 AM
Cincinnati, ohio...of course..:D
Cookiebaker
11-04-2002, 06:15 AM
Denver, Colorado
jenluckenbach
11-04-2002, 07:49 AM
E)gypt (which also happens to be a local town)
Dakota's Mommy
11-04-2002, 10:43 AM
Findlay, Ohio
-or-
Ft. Hood, Texas
Cataholic
11-04-2002, 10:46 AM
Ghana, Africa or Gahanna, Ohio
Vermontcat
11-04-2002, 11:37 AM
HAWAII :D
jenluckenbach
11-04-2002, 12:21 PM
I)daho
I)ndiana
I)llinois
I)reland
I)srael
I)ndianapolis
Oh you get the I)dea
Cataholic
11-04-2002, 12:27 PM
Yes, (J)en, we get it...he he he..
Jamica
Jerusalum
Juneau
Jericho
(J)ohanna
jenluckenbach
11-04-2002, 12:47 PM
K)enya
K)entucky
toughCookie
11-04-2002, 12:49 PM
Logan, Utah
jenluckenbach
11-04-2002, 12:50 PM
M)innesota
Cataholic
11-04-2002, 01:11 PM
Nice
Nashville
'Nati (as in Cincinnati...he he he)
mugsy
11-04-2002, 01:16 PM
Oregon
lynnestankard
11-04-2002, 01:18 PM
Oldham - UK
Orlando - USA
Lynne
lynnestankard
11-04-2002, 01:19 PM
Sorry Mugsy so busy posting didn't notice you'd alredy entered 'O'!!
Lynne
Cataholic
11-04-2002, 01:21 PM
PETTALK!!!!!!
mugsy
11-04-2002, 01:23 PM
Qatar
lynnestankard
11-04-2002, 01:34 PM
Russia
Lynne
Tanya&Fritz
11-04-2002, 01:37 PM
Sudan
Switzerland
Saskatchewan
Sarnia
jenluckenbach
11-04-2002, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by Cataholic
'Nati (as in Cincinnati...he he he)
I don't think so !!!!!!!
T)exas
T)ennessee
mugsy
11-04-2002, 03:25 PM
Uganda
Cataholic
11-04-2002, 03:41 PM
ZOO- like some people's houses must seem like with ALL those animals in it!!! And you know who I mean, now, don't cha? I am not scared of you, either...:D
Cataholic
11-04-2002, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by Cataholic
ZOO- like some people's houses must seem like with ALL those animals in it!!! And you know who I mean, now, don't cha? I am not scared of you, either...:D
OMG! What IDIOT doesn't know her alphabet?
Cataholic
11-04-2002, 03:44 PM
Vermont....he he he......I am sooooo sorry!!!!!!!! I am all flustered tonight!!!!!
Vermontcat
11-04-2002, 04:08 PM
*ahem* don't you mean VERMONT!!!
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