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Freckles
05-02-2010, 11:02 AM
Hopefully Newton is far enough away, but just checking. :confused:

Karen
05-02-2010, 01:06 PM
We are in the "must boil water" area, so are using bottled water for teeth brushing, face washing and anything else. We are certainly within the MWDC area - Paul and I know the spot where the break happened, so he went down there and said the sound was amazing, he heard it even before he could see it yesterday afternoon.

lizbud
05-02-2010, 04:55 PM
I was wondering about the water break too. How long till they get it fixed?

Karen
05-02-2010, 05:03 PM
It depends ... as usual. It could be days, or a week or more. I feel sorriest for people with small children.

wombat2u2004
05-02-2010, 06:07 PM
What has happened ??? You all have a water line break or something ???

Karen
05-02-2010, 07:10 PM
We had a huge water main "break" - the pipe didn't break, but the collar connecting two huge pipes that bring water into the city broke. Yesterday there were 8 million gallons of water an hour pouring out of the pipe, fortunately it broke right near the Charles River. Paul took some pictures on the "waterfall" that was created on either side of a footbridge. So right now, about 2 million people in the Boston Metro area have been told they need to boil any tapwater before using it to drink, cook with, or even brush their teeth - what we're getting right now is mostly untreated water from two local reservoirs, and they worry about bacteria from goose poop, deer dropping, etc., in the water.

We have plenty of bottled water, and Paul went a few towns west and picked up some more today, just in case, as it may take days before we can rely on tap-water again.

See: Boston.com (http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/05/02/water_main_break/) for the complete story, Wom!

DJFyrewolf36
05-02-2010, 08:48 PM
Prayers on the way they get it fixed quickly!!!

Freedom
05-02-2010, 10:06 PM
WOW I hadn't heard (been working the vegie garden all weekend with the nice weather).

Prayers for all of you! Yes folks with small children, aged, handicapped, they will find this a real challenge.

Any chance Paul will share his pics with us?

wombat2u2004
05-03-2010, 05:33 AM
Eight million gallons an hour is a lot of water. It must be fairly gushing out.
I noticed in the article that the join was held together by a metal collar over a rubber sleeve ???? Perhaps the rubber perished ???

Cinder & Smoke
05-03-2010, 07:54 AM
Eight million gallons an hour is a lot of water.
It must be fairly gushing out.

I noticed in the article that the joint was held together
by a metal collar over a rubber sleeve ????
Perhaps the rubber perished ???

That's the Million Gallon Question!
As for "the gushing" ... that's a bit of an understatement!

They have to go look for the pieces & parts of the failed joint - those pieces
washed into the River during the "gusher" and need to be recovered.

The basic joint design - a metal collar over a rubber sleeve and seal - is a
very common type of waterpipe joint that is used in modern water systems.

Karen
05-03-2010, 08:08 AM
Eight million gallons an hour is a lot of water. It must be fairly gushing out.
I noticed in the article that the join was held together by a metal collar over a rubber sleeve ???? Perhaps the rubber perished ???

The bad part is that that intersection was only 7 years old, so they are going to have to do some serious investigation as to why it failed. Thankfully the river is fairly placid at that point, so it should not have gone too far downstream.

elizabethann
05-03-2010, 12:49 PM
You can always come up here for water.

lvpets2002
05-03-2010, 12:52 PM
:) Karen you all can come to Texas anytime.. We have good water so far.. Really Prayers going out to all of you.. That is just all so horrible..

Karen
05-03-2010, 01:36 PM
Thanks for the offers, everyone! We have plenty of bottled water for now, and the line has been fixed. Today they are running the "good" water through the pipe, and doing water quality testing, it should be just another 24-48 hours before the tap water is safe again.

Paul
05-03-2010, 03:12 PM
   In the evening on the day of Boston's water supply break, I went to see what eight million gallons per hour look like. It happened in a place just upstream on the Charles River from my mother's house. Unlike the initial reports, this was the perfect place for a problem. It's one of the very few places in this area that is (relatively) far from any home or business and right next to the river. It occurred on what used to be a road that was closed to vehicles (I guess) in the 1960's when the bridge needed repairs. Subsequently a pedestrian bridge was built in its place which quickly closed when the wood rotted.

   When I was a few hundred yards away from the river, I realized I could hear two sounds. The news helicopter circling above me and the sound of rushing water. The color of the river had changed to several shades of brown. The most dramatic part of the entire experience was the sound of the tiny waterfall. I wish I had taken a video to try to capture that sound.

   I watched two kayakers paddle down the river. (There is a popular canoe and kayak rental place just downstream.) I don't think they knew anything strange was happening! The man saw me on the opposite bank taking photos and pointed out the waterfall to his companion. What shocked me was what did not happen. They entered the stream of water in the middle of the river but they did not speed up to any noticeable degree. Eight million gallons per hour added to a small river is not much. The only real effect to the river was the movement of soil and sediment changing its color to brown.

      Paul

lvpets2002
05-03-2010, 04:49 PM
:) WoW Paul I will bet that was so Differant & Neat to watch at the same time.. Very Interesting.. Well so glad all will be fixed & good to go in 24 to 48 hours..

wombat2u2004
05-03-2010, 07:52 PM
It's fortunate that it didn't happen in a built up area.
Still, it would be kinda cool to have a pic of the mayor floating down the river on a door :p

Karen
05-03-2010, 08:58 PM
It's fortunate that it didn't happen in a built up area.
Still, it would be kinda cool to have a pic of the mayor floating down the river on a door :p

Hee hee - I live far from the river, and on a steep hill. We have old water lines and pipes on our hill, but they are very little in comparison to that one, that's the main feed for 30 communities! Whereas our little hill has a very short street, and even if the line broke in front of my house, it would flood my neighbor's house and yard across the street, but we'd still be high and dry!

Freedom
05-03-2010, 09:27 PM
Hey, thank you, Paul! Very descriptive writing, and those photos are great too. Imagine! No homes /businesses in the area to be flooded. WHEW!

Glad to hear the repair is going along so quickly!

wombat2u2004
05-03-2010, 11:02 PM
Hee hee - I live far from the river, and on a steep hill. We have old water lines and pipes on our hill, but they are very little in comparison to that one, that's the main feed for 30 communities! Whereas our little hill has a very short street, and even if the line broke in front of my house, it would flood my neighbor's house and yard across the street, but we'd still be high and dry!

Yeah, well I'd get Paul to put a set of seat belts on the front door anyway...just in case you know.
It's always good to have a safety net. :p

Karen
05-04-2010, 11:29 AM
Well, folks, as of 6:43 this morning, we were told our water is now safe for drinking and all other purposes. Of course, I didn't find out until after I brushed my teeth with the bottled stuff, but hey, no worries.

And Wom, no worries about seatbelts on the front door. If it came down to it, I'm a good swimmer.