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Grace
10-15-2009, 06:47 PM
He needs to review Loving v. Virginia, 1967


Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.
By MARY FOSTER, Associated Press Writer


NEW ORLEANS – A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have. Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.

"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."

Bardwell said he asks everyone who calls about marriage if they are a mixed race couple. If they are, he does not marry them, he said.

Bardwell said he has discussed the topic with blacks and whites, along with witnessing some interracial marriages. He came to the conclusion that most of black society does not readily accept offspring of such relationships, and neither does white society, he said.

"There is a problem with both groups accepting a child from such a marriage," Bardwell said. "I think those children suffer and I won't help put them through it."

If he did an interracial marriage for one couple, he must do the same for all, he said.

"I try to treat everyone equally," he said.

Bardwell estimates that he has refused to marry about four couples during his career, all in the past 2 1/2 years.

Beth Humphrey, 30, and 32-year-old Terence McKay, both of Hammond, say they will consult the U.S. Justice Department about filing a discrimination complaint.

Humphrey, an account manager for a marketing firm, said she and McKay, a welder, just returned to Louisiana. She is white and he is black. She plans to enroll in the University of New Orleans to pursue a masters degree in minority politics.

"That was one thing that made this so unbelievable," she said. "It's not something you expect in this day and age."

Humphrey said she called Bardwell on Oct. 6 to inquire about getting a marriage license signed. She says Bardwell's wife told her that Bardwell will not sign marriage licenses for interracial couples. Bardwell suggested the couple go to another justice of the peace in the parish who agreed to marry them.

"We are looking forward to having children," Humphrey said. "And all our friends and co-workers have been very supportive. Except for this, we're typical happy newlyweds."

"It is really astonishing and disappointing to see this come up in 2009," said American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana attorney Katie Schwartzmann. "The Supreme Court ruled as far back as 1963 that the government cannot tell people who they can and cannot marry."

The ACLU sent a letter to the Louisiana Judiciary Committee, which oversees the state justices of the peace, asking them to investigate Bardwell and recommending "the most severe sanctions available, because such blatant bigotry poses a substantial threat of serious harm to the administration of justice."

"He knew he was breaking the law, but continued to do it," Schwartzmann said.

According to the clerk of court's office, application for a marriage license must be made three days before the ceremony because there is a 72-hour waiting period. The applicants are asked if they have previously been married. If so, they must show how the marriage ended, such as divorce.

Other than that, all they need is a birth certificate and Social Security card.

The license fee is $35, and the license must be signed by a Louisiana minister, justice of the peace or judge. The original is returned to the clerk's office.

"I've been a justice of the peace for 34 years and I don't think I've mistreated anybody," Bardwell said. "I've made some mistakes, but you have too. I didn't tell this couple they couldn't get married. I just told them I wouldn't do it."

Edwina's Secretary
10-15-2009, 07:14 PM
Imagine that. He lets them use his bathroom.......

Lady's Human
10-15-2009, 07:17 PM
In some parts of the country, he'd be a progressive.

Cataholic
10-15-2009, 07:25 PM
Wait! He can't be a racist, he has black friends!!

caseysmom
10-15-2009, 07:36 PM
Piles and piles of them....who calls people piles????

aTailOf2Kitties
10-15-2009, 08:01 PM
aren't Creole people a mix of races and all over south Louisiana?

Asiel
10-15-2009, 08:05 PM
Sounds pretty racist to me. Are Creoles much the same as what we know as Cajun?

Lady's Human
10-15-2009, 08:23 PM
Cajuns are the French Canadians who settled in Louisiana......

Creole refers to the hodge podge of races who intermixed with the French settlers around New Orleans.

The terms, while interchangeable to someone not from the area, are quite different.

Karen
10-15-2009, 08:39 PM
Let him spend a week up in Boston, and he'll see plenty of mixed race children in happy homes. I can introduce him to many - in fact, there's a certain Army Colonel that I could send down to pay him a visit - his parents were married up North here, his mom is from Maine, and his Dad is from Missouri, and they met while in college in Boston. They married, and settled here, and yet when his Dad was in the Army and they wanted to transfer him to Georgia, he had some trouble because it was still illegal then for mixed race couples to exist down there, despite the fact they had been married for years up here.

Anyway, they are still happily married after 40+ years, and their son is career Army.

Puckstop31
10-15-2009, 08:45 PM
In some parts of the country, he'd be a progressive.

Eugenics is a progressive idea. Always has been, always will be. Ruth Bader Ginsberg recently displayed as much. They can't say it in mixed company anymore, but its always been there...

Not that the usual suspects here will comment... They are going to talk about us "defending" this guy.


Bring it. :)

sparks19
10-15-2009, 09:04 PM
Wait! He can't be a racist, he has black friends!!


Piles and piles of them....who calls people piles????

of course...

I mean you CAN'T be racist if you have black FRIENDS. come ON.

I HATE when people say that lol. I don't hate "insert X group here" I have friends that are "X". but it's always the go to explanation or excuse I guess

LOL caseysmom... the only time I've ever heard piles in reference to people is in sports when there is a "pile up" does that count?

Grace
10-15-2009, 09:16 PM
I've also heard the word "piles" used instead of hemorrhoids.

Alysser
10-15-2009, 09:31 PM
The article itself makes me wonder why this guy is even allowed to give out marriage licenses. Why is it even significant that "he lets black people use his bathroom" ? Well aren't you just a saint, what a jerk. :p Interracial marriages don't last long, I guess he hasn't looked at divorce rates which include everyone in awhile, eh? I seriously think he pulled that one out of his ass. He says all this stupid stuff with no proof, facts, or statistics..:P Seriously?

The part that irks me the most is when he says black and white people don't care for children of interracial parents..okay that might be true. But the only way racism is going to be stopped will be if we have MORE interracial marriages, kids, and stop stereotyping groups of people by saying "white people won't accept mixed children" or vice versa. :rolleyes:

RICHARD
10-15-2009, 09:59 PM
But, we all laughed at Fred Gywnn in "My Cousin Vinnie".

Maybe he thought the couple was too young to marry!

Da youts!!!:confused::o:eek:

Grace
10-15-2009, 10:13 PM
Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment provides:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."


Loving v. Virginia ruling (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=388&invol=1)

K9karen
10-15-2009, 11:23 PM
I've also heard the word "piles" used instead of hemorrhoids.


ROTFLMAO! i thought the same thing! :D:D:D

People who defend themselves, having piles of ==== friends and let them use their bathrooms are the worse racists ever.

He should meet all my multi-racists friends. He'd flip out. Love is Love. It has no color.

I feel sorry for him.

smokey the elder
10-16-2009, 07:43 AM
Hmm...Tiger Woods: mixed race; Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson: mixed race; Hines Ward; Barack Obama!

Sure, mixed race kids don't succeed. Right.

Pinot's Mom
10-16-2009, 08:20 AM
I haven't heard the notion that mixed race kids aren't accepted since my mother passed away. I was raised with that baloney. Unfortunately that idea still lives. It's very sad.

DJFyrewolf36
10-16-2009, 10:25 AM
Hmm...Tiger Woods: mixed race; Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson: mixed race; Hines Ward; Barack Obama!

Sure, mixed race kids don't succeed. Right.


Exactly! Racial profiling of any sort is just narrow minded and further proof that people need to get a better grip on reality. Makes me wonder how some people keep their jobs.

enugssow73
10-25-2009, 08:28 PM
All the returned babies :- This is a little different, they have had him for a whole year now

Hes an adult. He isnt going to have a clue what is going on and I hope I can make him comfortable and calm while he transitions to our house again.


any chance hell remember Star, or us?

Catty1
10-25-2009, 11:00 PM
enugssow73 - I think you posted this in the wrong thread. What the heck are you talking about?

Maybe post a new thread and give a little more detail on the situation.

cassiesmom
10-26-2009, 07:56 PM
Aarrgh! (banging head on desk) Why do people think along these lines.

There are same-race marriages that don't work, too.

kitten645
10-26-2009, 08:51 PM
I'm biting my tongue re: gay marriage rights. :rolleyes:

joycenalex
10-27-2009, 04:22 PM
1967 decision 9 to 0 decision.... In its decision, the court wrote:

“ Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival.... To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discrimination. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.
The U.S. Supreme Court overturned the convictions in a unanimous decision, dismissing the Commonwealth of Virginia's argument that a law forbidding both white and black persons from marrying persons of another race, and providing identical penalties to white and black violators, could not be construed as racially discriminatory. The court ruled that Virginia's anti-miscegenation statute violated both the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
and yes , without a doubt, the due process clause and equal protection clause of the American Constution applies to ALL americans in regard to civic marriage. all americans are all americans. religious marriage can still be denied by churches. God Bless the United States Constution, amen

Laura's Babies
11-05-2009, 09:36 AM
They announced on the local news last night that he resigned.. http://www.wbrz.com/news-video/


We ARE all entitled to our own beliefs as long as we don't force them on anyone else. It was not his business to judge and married or not, they could still have children so what was the point of refusing to marry them? The Parish he lives in has a reputation for being ....ugh... lets just say "strange". It seems to attrack the odd balls.. I should know, I lived in that Parish for many years and will be retiring there... :rolleyes: