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aly
05-28-2001, 02:57 PM
I got this book at PetSmart called 277 Secrets Your Dog Wants You to Know by Paulette Cooper and Paul Noble. It has a lot of interesting things in it. I just thought I'd post a couple interesting parts of it. These are not my opinions so don't get mad at me http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif I dont even necessarily agree with the studies because they don't seem extensive and I also don't like putting labels on breeds because each is an individual.

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Dogs Least and Most Likely to Bite

In a study on biting and nonbiting dogs, you may have expected German shepherds and chow chows to be among the biters. But collies? Yes, and even more surprising, the pit bull didn't bite. But since there was only one pit bull in the study, it doesn't mean much.

The study, published in the journal Pediatrics, reported that the dogs least likely to bite were golden retrievers, Chihuahuas, poodles, and Scottish terriers. This study, conducted in Denver, Colorado, for the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, also found that biters tended to be male and unneutered, and more likely to live in homes with children.


The 10 Smartest Dog Breeds
Dr. Stanley Coren named the Border collie, poodle, German shepherd, golden retriever, Doberman pinscher, Shetland sheep dog, Labrador retriever, papillon, rottweiler, and Australian cattle dog as the top ten breeds in obedience and working intelligence.

This caused a great howl to go up from those whose dogs landed at the tail of the list. Ownsers of borzois, chow chows, bulldogs, basenjis, and Afghan hounds insisted that their dogs weren't dumb at all; they were just too smart to do Coren's stupid tests.

On Charlie Rose's television show, Dr. Coren told how he handles offended dog owners, recalling what he told an Afghan owner: "You have beautiful dogs...They are quite spectacular..." He found this mollified people because, "We prize beauty and aesthetics in our culture as much as we do intelligence."

jackiesdaisy1935
05-28-2001, 07:49 PM
Aly, that was really interesting, and some surprises. I would think Schnauzers would fall into the most barkers. http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif
Jackie

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ilovehounds
05-28-2001, 09:10 PM
I think that the Schnauzers would have competition with the shelties in the barking department http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif

I can't believe that Chihuahuas was in the least likley to bite list ????

I think everybreed should be put in the smartest dog list because it depends on the individual dog I have seen smart shelties and I have seen pretty non-smart http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif shelties. (my parents have had 6 shelties over the years and not all of them would be considered smart). I have also seen some pretty smart chow chows.
I don't really care what the tests say, I think every dog is smart in their own way.

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*LabLoverKEB*
05-28-2001, 09:23 PM
I think the dog that bites the least is the Labrdor, and the Golden Retriever!

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*BaSim*
05-28-2001, 10:34 PM
If you want to test how smart your dog is i know a great test. I saw this test on Good Dog U a great show that used to be on animal planet and im not sure if it is any more because i ahvnt seen it in a while.
but what you do is get a bath towel and place it over your dogs head. Tell them to come on and say stuff to modivate them to get out of the towel. Now if your dog get out of the towel from 5 seconds or lower is is above average if it gets out in 6-10 it is average and from 10 and higher seconds.. sorry but your dog is below average. Simba got out of the towel in 2 seconds.

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Rottie
05-29-2001, 04:02 PM
Interesting. But, like you said, I don't think it is very accurate. Thanks for posting though http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif

Angels3
05-29-2001, 08:28 PM
Tibetan Spaniels are very unlikely to bite because they were bred in the monasteries of Tibet where the buddhist belief is that no harm should be done to anything in nature. Well, that's not exactly scientific! But tibbies are not biters.
I saw a TV program about a lovely big breed of dog called the Italian Spinone...& it said they are never known to bite people.
Yes, shetland sheepdogs are very intelligent...we own 2 of them.

I Love My Aussie
05-30-2001, 05:45 PM
I had heard on ANIMAL PLANET that Collies are one of the most-likely breeds to bite, but its instinct. Collies, as wel as other herding dogs, are bred to nip and bite, so it comes natural. I think the whole biting thing all depends on the dog, not the breed. And, I kind of understand the hound thing, its not that they're not smart, but they have a mind of their own. My great aunt use to breed Afghan hounds and she a couple of really smart ones, but they all had a mind of their own.

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TollSettFK
05-31-2001, 08:37 PM
I have heard of this rare dog breed(500 in the world!) called the klee Kai(I think that is how you spell it!) that is really smart!

Pam
05-31-2001, 09:28 PM
I was glad to see that poodles received high marks for intelligence and not being biters. That has been my experience after having 5, although I am sure there are exceptions to every rule.

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Malaika
06-01-2001, 02:17 AM
Hi -
I have a Golden Retriever and I am sure she is smart, but not very intelegant- and she wouldnīt pass that test at all. I always rub her with a towel after our daily walks (it rains alot in Germany) and whatever I put over her head she leaves it there. She would walk around like that- even if she canīt see her way. I know doesnīt sound pretty smart !!
But she was used to keep the towel like that and not shake before she is towel dried.
Malaika & Talua

Sadie's Mom
06-01-2001, 09:04 AM
Hi everyone! I have been away for a couple of weeks so I missed alot of talk. I would have to put collies and Pekinese both in the biters category - mostly because I have been bitten by both. When I was four I was bitten by the Pekinese and required plastic surgery and when I was in my late twenties/early thirties I was bitten by a collie - both went for the face. http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/eek.gif You would think that I would be afraid of dogs but I'm not. I would say that most dogs are intelligent - some just don't like to boast about their intelligence and therefore seem less intelligent than their counterparts! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/biggrin.gif I have a Wheaton terrier (Sadie) and she is sweet and gentle and I doubt if she would bite anyone; she also doesn't bark (only on rare occasions) and she is quite intelligent!! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/wink.gif

bugmom
06-01-2001, 12:00 PM
BaSim - Does the dog get bonus points if she shreds the towel too?! http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/wink.gif Bug can get the towel off and have it in pieces within thirty seconds. The first 5 secs are spent ripping it off her head then its run through the house and destroy that vicious thing that attacked her head....i tried once to rescue the towel, now i just laugh cuz it really is funny. After the towel is subdued enough and has learned its lesson she will throw it at my feet and do the puppy play crouch (you know the one with the butt in the air) and want to play tug of was with what remains of the towel.
sometimes, she just a little too smart for me http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/biggrin.gif

Rottie
06-01-2001, 05:30 PM
I'm sure we all agree that the dog least likely to bite is the dog that is well trained, well socialized, and greatly loved. http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif

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AdoreMyDogs
06-01-2001, 09:38 PM
When I used to jog with my lab, Beener and Graham there was this house that I ran by a couple of times and had to quit because this nasty little dashound (sp?) charged at me baring teeth, growling and bit my dog's legs. I kicked it hard enough to get it off my dogs but not hard enough to hurt it (but let me tell you, I sure wanted to at the time) and the owners did nothing about it. It charged at everyone who walked by and the owners did nothing to keep it in a yard, and did not keep it leashed. They would do yard work and let this little jerk of a dog out into the front yard and just casually call it's name if it started attacking anyone walking by. Of course the dog did not listen to it's owners because the owners put absolutely no effort into correcting it. So that's the only real dog bite I have had. It did not go after me as much as my dogs, but it went after me when I kicked it. If only I used the force I wanted to use it would have NEVER gone after me again!!!

aly
06-01-2001, 09:43 PM
Its funny when we get new dogs at the shelter. I'll run right up to the rotts, pits, etc and start hugging and kissing them. But whenever a dachshund comes in, I approach with extreme caution!

barbi
06-07-2001, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by Rottie:
I'm sure we all agree that the dog least likely to bite is the dog that is well trained, well socialized, and greatly loved. http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/smile.gif



I totally agree with youu - my thoughts exactly.

Barbi

DiannaL
08-13-2001, 12:27 AM
I've never heard of a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel biting, and they are quite intelligent. They might lick you to death, but never bite. They can get a little possesive with chew sticks and raw hides. I only know about my Cavalier, but I can only imagine they would all be like that. They are just very happy dogs, always wagging their tails and wanting to make friends with everyone. ;) :cool:

MHMama
08-20-2001, 09:37 PM
I have been thinking about this towel test for judging the smartness of your dog and I wonder if the towel size is a factor. A bath towel over Ricky would be like a blanket over a lab. Wouldn't seem like a fair test.
Also, chihuahua are more likely to bite because most small dogs are protected from strangers by their owners. I know Ricky had that incident but most people, even the person he "bit" can pick him up etc. So I think it is more like the owners of certain breeds tend to act in some way that makes the behavior the way it is. I may be way off on that though. ;) ;)

Harry
09-01-2001, 07:34 PM
If you want to get a friendly dog then you should get a golden retriver or lab I think they are really friendly and smart but the smartest dog is boder colie on my dog book it said boder colies are smartest dog. But any dog could be smart or friendly if you train it well

carrie
09-01-2001, 09:20 PM
The most bites that vets in this country get are from....Goldens! ( The most popular breed? Goldens!)
American bloodline GSD's just don't have the prey drive that their European couterparts have but still they are very unlikely to bite without reason - protective aggression is the biggie.
Angels3 - Tibetan Spaniels don't tend to bite as they were bred for temperament, to fit in with the monks, rather than taking on the philosophy of the monks.
King Charles Spaniels are a pretty new breed as breeds go, especially in the US. They, again, were bred for temperament as a lap dog.
Any small dog that is carried and, understandably,worried over....who is going to step on it, kick it, not see it on the floor.... is going to have to protect itself and is also going to have a higher opinion of itself than a big dog( every time the dog feels worried it is picked up - many are "trained" to feel worried because of the owners reaction to a "threat") that is left on the floor to look after itself. A Great Dane is not going to have the same reaction (..if any!!!) to big human feet or hands coming towards it as a toy dog.
Border collies have the reputation as a nippy breed because dogs that come from working stock - old working stock - have to nip sometimes!
The same with some of the gaurding stock - if you approach in a way that triggers the protective traits, that humans have encouraged, you will be bitten.

In any study you have to look at the number of breeds, the number of each individual in any breed and the circumstances of the bite.


As for how stupid is a sight hound?
As pets they tend to have devoted owners who love them and strive daily to get a similar reaction from their dog. The dog meanwhile has the comfiest places in the house to sleep, the best grub, the majority of the owners attention while the owner is at home, admiring comments and attention from strangers when out for a walk and a total veto to any training past house training.
(USUALLY!!!!!!!!! )
They can do what they like when they like and if they train their owners properly they can usually get some company, if they want it, when they are doing it!
Yeah - pretty dumb.....I don't think!

TollSettFK
09-03-2001, 09:26 AM
O.K, what I want to say is this: Did they look at the really rare breeds, I mean really rare? Because if they would have, then this (I think) would be a much different study.