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lizbud
06-14-2008, 06:13 PM
When you think the Bush Administration can't screw up America any
more than they already have, read on.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080614/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/polar_bears_oil_2

Lady's Human
06-14-2008, 06:24 PM
Administration and industry officials said oil companies enjoyed similar status in the Chukchi Sea from 1991 to 1996 and in the Beaufort Sea since 1993 and there was no effect on polar bear populations.


So it was okay for prior administrations to allow this, but the BUSH administration does it and it's evil?

:rolleyes:

moosmom
06-14-2008, 08:13 PM
If George Dubbya is saying it's okay to ANNOY polar bears in an effort to get oil and natural gas, let's send HIM there. He's THE most annoying person I know. He is SUCH an idiot.

rosethecopycat
06-14-2008, 10:28 PM
When you think the Bush Administration can't screw up America any
more than they already have, read on.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080614/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/polar_bears_oil_2


:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


Yes, something like 2466 days with no terrorist attack on U.S. soil, he's completely blown it, hasn't he?

Let's find some oil and gas, build refineries and get the heck away from the middle east.

Edwina's Secretary
06-14-2008, 11:31 PM
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


Yes, something like 2466 days with no terrorist attack on U.S. soil, he's completely blown it, hasn't he?

Let's find some oil and gas, build refineries and get the heck away from the middle east.

This country went 82,192 days without a terrorist attack on U. S. soil...until GW became president.

Yup..he blew it! (sorry...bad pun...:rolleyes::rolleyes:)

He made it less than 280 without his first terrorist attack!

(what silly fun this is! Totally meaningless but fun!)

rosethecopycat
06-14-2008, 11:45 PM
This country went 82,192 days without a terrorist attack on U. S. soil...until GW became president.

Yup..he blew it! (sorry...bad pun...:rolleyes::rolleyes:)

He made it less than 280 without his first terrorist attack!

(what silly fun this is! Totally meaningless but fun!)

So, we are counting the 1st attack on the Trade Center, when Clinton was prez or not?

Edwina's Secretary
06-15-2008, 10:57 AM
More numbers....4,097 --- number of US soldiers killed since we invaded Iraq
30,333 estimated wounded US soldiers.

Number of Iraqis killed or wounded -- no one is keeping track...10,000? 20,000? 100,000?

Lady's Human
06-15-2008, 12:18 PM
There are, have been, and will be plenty of threads about Iraq, Afghanistan, terrorism, etc.

This isn't (or didn't start out as) a thread about Iraq, let's keep it that way.

Edwina's Secretary
06-15-2008, 12:50 PM
Why? This thread is about the damage done by the Bush Administration. The many, many people killed as a result of his decisions certainly are a part of that damage.

It's more than just polar bears!

Lady's Human
06-15-2008, 01:26 PM
No, the thread is about a news article relating to a specific policy......which, as it turns out, is not a policy of the current administration at all, rather it is a continuation of a policy which has been in effect according to the news article, since the 1990's.

Edwina's Secretary
06-15-2008, 02:00 PM
Wow! I didn't realize you are the author of the thread!

Lady's Human
06-15-2008, 02:15 PM
I didn't realize you were, either.

The thread cannot logically be about destruction caused by the Bush administration, as the policy in the article isn't even a policy of the current administration.

You guys are going to be awfully bored in 6 months or so.........

Freedom
06-15-2008, 03:47 PM
You guys are going to be awfully bored in 6 months or so.........
I'll take bored!



Administration and industry officials said oil companies enjoyed similar status in the Chukchi Sea from 1991 to 1996 and in the Beaufort Sea since 1993 and there was no effect on polar bear populations.

So it was okay for prior administrations to allow this, but the BUSH administration does it and it's evil?

Look who is making the claim: Administration and industry officials. Maybe there WAS no effect; but I wouldn't believe believe it from those particular sources.

Lady's Human
06-15-2008, 04:51 PM
According to WWF, the population is at 20-25K individuals, which is up from 5K in the '70s. Numbers from the '80s are a subject of debate, as they range from 20-45K.

Being that oil production in the arctic only really took off in the '70s, it looks like the harassment hasn't harmed them at all.

lizbud
06-15-2008, 05:09 PM
[QUOTE=Lady's Human;

Being that oil production in the arctic only really took off in the '70s, it looks like the harassment hasn't harmed them at all.[/QUOTE]


It just adds salt to the wounds of this species. Polor bear numbers are
already down from the effects on melting polar ice from global warming
& now what officials are saying is " Don't worry about harming the bears, full
steam ahead" for the Oil & Gas industries.

Edwina's Secretary
06-15-2008, 05:34 PM
You guys are going to be awfully bored in 6 months or so.........

Not to worry. This administration has done so much harm in the world the ill-effects will be around for a long, long time.

Lady's Human
06-15-2008, 05:54 PM
As has every US administration in the post WW2 world. It all depends on your perspective.

Lady's Human
06-15-2008, 05:59 PM
Liz, there were roughly 5000 individual polar bears estimated in the 1960-70's.

Oil production in arctic regions really didn't take of as it wasn't economically feasible until the '70s.

The numbers now are roughly 25000.....a five fold increase from their population in the early '70s.


Oil exploration and production has harmed them how?

smokey the elder
06-16-2008, 10:47 AM
*Sits on sidelines with feet up, sipping a mojito, watching the cage match*:cool::p;)