How much do Min Pin pups go for?

[horse_lover]

My cousin is breeding her min pin Oliver and she is wondering how much she could get for the puupies. Also how much could she charge people if they want to breed him with their dogs.

[Tollers-n-Dobes]

Your cousin shouldn't be breeding her dog in the first place. Sounds like Oliver is "just" a pet, not anything of breeding quality. There are too many unwanted dogs out there due to irresponsible (so called) breeders as it is. The last thing we need is more. Not meaning to be rude, but it's the truth. I hope she changes her mind.

[horse_lover]

What?! She has to dogs! She spoils Oliver like a baby! He sleeps right next to her and he goes everywhere she goes. He gets alot of treats too. Her other dog is in heat and she wants to breed them! He was bred probably threes months ago and the poeple who bred him are wondring. I guess you read it wrong? I don't know.

[rutylr]

If her dog has not proven him self to meet the standard(by showing in dog shows) then he should not be bred.
plus I just checked on OFA web site and they seem to be testin Min Pins,hearts,elbows,heart,eyes,LEGG-CALVE-PERTHES,PATELLA and THYROID.
Has her dog been health tested?


Puppies go for what ever people will pay.
50.00 would be a good price for puppies out of non heath tested or titles parents...

[critter crazy]

What?! She has to dogs! She spoils Oliver like a baby! He sleeps right next to her and he goes everywhere she goes. He gets alot of treats too. Her other dog is in heat and she wants to breed them! He was bred probably threes months ago and they are wondering how much they should sell em for
You will find that this site does not like Back Yard Breeders. We spend most of our time rescuing animals from shelters and bad situations, and frown on people bringing more dogs into the world, just because they can! If this dog is not the top of its breed, it should not be bred, and from the sounds of it, she just wants to make money anyways!

[horse_lover]

you people have problems! I don't ask questions to get nagged. She is 20 years old and has 11 horses to pay for and is working a part time job! I think a little money would help!

[horse_lover]

She also took Oliver from my other cousin who was going to bring him to a Humane Society!

[luvofallhorses]

:rolleyes: I agree with Orangutango. she needs to neuter him.. why doesn't she get a second job rather than breeding her dog for money? :mad: you asking how much she could get for the pups says it all. :( we don't need anymore dogs in this world.. not everyone is going to want a min pin.

[horse_lover]

Because she needs the money first!

[bckrazy]

Your other cousin was going to dump the poor pup in a shelter?

Weell, that is exactly why the little guy does NOT need to be reproducing! Because there are tons of unwanted dogs in this country, therefore logically, only dogs that have proven themselves in conformation, working, and health tests need to be reproducing. If you aren't breeding to actually improve the breed - not for financial gain - you are just adding to a terrible overpopulation problem. Dogs are companions, not money-making machines!

Check out this site, it has lots of good information! http://www.learntobreed.com

[luvofallhorses]

Because she needs the money first!

she CAN get a second job it's not that hard. ugh I am not going to say anymore. :rolleyes: sure she loves him enough to breed him just to get money. :rolleyes:

[Zippy]

I agree with what everone has said.If Oliver has never be shown and doesn't meet the breed standard.He shouldn't be breed.Plus there are so many dogs without home already why add to it.

[horse_lover]

No you have it all wrong! He is a pure bred min pin! No I don't know exactly why she wants to breed him but she does!

[rutylr]

No you have it all wrong! He is a pure bred min pin! No I don't know exactly why she wants to breed him but she does!

Even AKC will tell you that being a pure bred with papers does'nt mean the dog is healthy or meets it's breed standard.

[horse_lover]

He's been tested already for everything and he has all of his shots

[Karen]

What does "everything" mean? What exactly has he been tested for? Has her other dog - the one in heat - also been tested and certified?

[horse_lover]

I guess everything for breeding. She took him to the vet to see if it was safe for breeding him

[caseysmom]

I suspect that the testing part is not true, sorry I just have a hard time believing that, if she was savvy enough to have the dog tested for everything she would know "how much they go for"

I am going to zip it but I certainly hope she doesn't add to the pet over populations problem :mad:

[critter crazy]

Does she even have good home picked out for the pups?? a good breeder has hmes all ready for the pups before they are even born! I am assuming if she is still trying to find out how much money she can get, she hasnt! Does she even realize how much money it costs to raise puppies?? True breeders dont make a profit on puppies, and they rarely even break even! Trying to produce puppies to make money, is a bad idea!! She will spend more than hse gets back!! Then what happens to the pups, if they dont sell?? where will they go?? does she have a plan for the birthing?? most small breeds have to have C-Sections, cause the pups rae usually too big to be born naturally! Does she have any idea how much this costs??

She is much better off getting a second job!!

[horse_lover]

WEll you don't know anything! How would you know if she even asked them! You people are so rude!

[luvofallhorses]

there are Miniature Pinscher 1139 on petfinder for ADOPTION and that are homeless. see for yourself.

http://www.petfinder.com/breeds/Dog

it doesn't matter if he's purebred. there are SO many dogs out there needing homes that are pure bred already and she would just be adding to the problem. :(

I volunteer for an animal shelter and I am not trying to be rude but I am saying how it is. no way in heck do I ever agree someone breeding their dog for money and nothing more. I bet you if she breeds her dogs, some of them will end up at the shelter..

when they're not pups anymore. not everyone likes min pins and there's enough HOMELESS ones at it is that are pure bred.


Never would I breed, ever and this is something I can say NEVER about and I would NEVER buy from a breeder no matter how responsible the breeder is. I know about the pet overpopulation problem and how many homeless animals are out there.

do you even know about the pet overpopulation problem? you keep on saying he's purebred.. that doesn't make any difference. she may love him but she doesn't need to breed him for money.

it's just so, so very wrong. she can get a second job rather than breeding him but I bet I am just wasting my time typing this. :rolleyes:

she is just going to make the people's job harder that work with shelters and rescues like me finding homes for pups that nobody wants in the future because they aren't pups anymore.

[Giselle]

Going to the vet for a "fit to breed" exam does not exist.

We mean:

Has her dog had its hips AND knees AND elbows x-rayed and sent to a board of specialists? I.E. Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) and/or the University of Pennsylvania's Hip Improvement Program (PennHIP).

Has her dog had its eyes tested and cleared? I.E. Canine Eye Registration Foundation (CERF) and/or Optigen?

Has her dog had an EKG to see if he has heart problems?

What about thyroid testing?

Breeding is not easy. It is not profitable. Unless, of course, you breed like your cousin intends to. Then, it is profitable. But you're introducing a litter of new, unnecessary lives into a heavily overpopulated world.

Please, for the good of dogs, ask your cousin to SPAY and NEUTER her dogs.

[caseysmom]

I am sorry if you think we are coming off rude, but really I don't care if that is what I am for fighting for the rights of animals. I too volunteer at a shelter and it breaks my heart and all the unwanted animals are from folks like you so frankly in this battle you are the enemy, can't really sugar coat it.

[horse_lover]

Okay, heres the thing I didn't say that it was called a fit to breed exam. She just wanted to make sure he didn't have diseases and stuff.

[Catty1]

ok. If her min pin is a purebred, then he has papers from the breeder, right? The breeder he came from would have an idea of what to charge - maybe look on the breeder's web site. Or any Min Pin breeder's site.

If he doesn't have papers or any proof of where he was bred - unfortunately, people just aren't going to believe that he is purebred, unless he has the registration papers.

And if your sister doesn't know what breeder he came from, and can't contact them...it's going to be difficult for her to prove also. It depends on how fussy the customers are, of course. But she won't be able to ask as high a price.

And without papers, this type of breeding is called "backyard" - meaning nonprofessional, NOT unprofessional.

Horselover...what people get upset about is the fact that we will never run out of cats and dogs in Canada or the USA. There are wonderful pets - including purebreds, I might add - that are in shelters and die by injection or gassing every day because there is just no home for them.

Of course your sister needs money, I don't doubt that for a minute. But selling pups will give her just a chunk of money that won't last very long...she needs something more reliable and permanent for income. I mean - God forbid, but what if one or more of the pups is stillborn?

It sounds like 'desperation' money and I understand...but even if that dog was bred today, she'd be without money for another four months, including pregnancy and how soon they can go to a new home. And they will have to have had at least one set of vaccinations. That can get expensive.

I hope she can find a better money solution for herself.

I know you are trying to help her...but think about how short-lived this income would be, and how long she would have to wait for it.

Like others here, I am suggesting not adding to dog overpopulation. I hope she can find some work soon, or even a barter arrangement of some kind. When she has some money - get the dogs neutered/spayed.

There are enough dogs...and she won't get rich from this.

Take care.

[horse_lover]

She's not at all like that. Hiow about you meet her fro yourself and talk to her!

[luvofallhorses]

I am sorry if you think we are coming off rude, but really I don't care if that is what I am for fighting for the rights of animals. I too volunteer at a shelter and it breaks my heart and all the unwanted animals are from folks like you so frankly in this battle you are the enemy, can't really sugar coat it.

ditto.

[rutylr]

Okay, heres the thing I didn't say that it was called a fit to breed exam. She just wanted to make sure he didn't have diseases and stuff.

You wont know unless you do all the test stated above and those would cost hundreds of dollars to do and send in.A vet can not tell just be looking at a dog.

[Giselle]

Like I said, the diseases cannot be detected in one vet exam. The vet x-rays, sends data off, and the results are sent back to your cousin after they've been analyzed by specialists.

ONE exam doesn't cut it. I'm sorry, but your cousin isn't breeding properly and the dogs need to be altered. If she needs to money, perhaps consider offering boarding? What about sponsorships? There are many many young riders who are seeking horses to sponsor.

[horse_lover]

She isn'ta stuck up person who want's her animals for money. Not at all!

[luvofallhorses]

She isn'ta stuck up person who want's her animals for money. Not at all!

then why is she breeding her dog for money then?

[Alysser]

No you have it all wrong! He is a pure bred min pin! No I don't know exactly why she wants to breed him but she does!

...And your point is?? My dog is purebred, but if he's from a backyard breeder he doesn't meet the breed standard. Just because he's purebred doesn't mean he matches AKC standards. No one ever said your cousin was mean and uncaring. Your the one who basically said she was breeding her dog for money. A little money would help? If she can't pay for the horses with just the job she has then why does she have them? This thread is all a bunch of rubbish lies to me. :rolleyes:

[horse_lover]

Do all people breed for money? She isn't just breeding for money! Don't peole have a right to breed. Maybe it's for herself and she doesn't make money?

[Roxyluvsme13]

-sigh-

Please don't add to the pet population.

I feel sorry for any homes that will be buying.

I bought a puppy from a BYB, big mistake. She died at 13 weeks old on Halloween.

Obviously nobody is going to talk any sense into your or the person planning on breeding, but I guess if you saw a hundreds of animals in a shelter, or an animal euthanasia because people are stupid, you might change your mind.

[rutylr]

Do all people breed for money? She isn't just breeding for money! Don't peole have a right to breed. Maybe it's for herself and she doesn't make money?
I don't ,
I breed for myself.I kept 3 puppies out of my last litter of 9 sold two(as I didn't know the people real well),and gave the rest to people who are great forever homes.
Here is the Mim Pin standard.

http://www.minpin.org/ill_stand.htm

[Alysser]

Do all people breed for money? She isn't just breeding for money! Don't peole have a right to breed. Maybe it's for herself and she doesn't make money?

No, responsible breeders breed to improve the breed and breed out unwanted behaviors, looks, etc. People who don't research, don't spend their last dime on tests on the parents, and don't show their dogs have NO right to breed IMO. Maybe it's for herself? You just said she doesn't just breed for money. Tell me, how has she improved the breed then?

[WELOVESPUPPIES]

Wow...I am just absolutely flabbergasted by the ignorace of this thread. No one should EVER breed any animal in hopes of "MAKING A LITTLE MONEY". That is just absolutely disgusting. I surely hope that if the dogs hook up no puppies are conceived because obviously you and your sister have made up your minds about why this dog should be bred(and quite obviously the WRONG reasons). If for some unfortunate reason there are puppies conceived I hope that they find the best forever homes and you and your sister learn why breeding by amatures should not be done and she gets her dogs altered.

You can take what everyone said on here and get your panties in a wad but all of us on here are for bettering a bred, rescuing unwanted animals or promoters of neutering and spaying to prevent so many unwanted babies.

And no matter how cute a puppy is, they all grow up and become DOGS, not that they aren't still loved (by most) but some people out there just get the AWWWWW, A PUPPY attitude and the poor puppy never gets socialization, training or anything else and becomes a problem dog that ends up unwanted, roaming the streets or sitting in a pound somewhere or worse, dead due to some sort of neglect. I am sorry but I could not just breed for myself like this and not worry daily about the puppies I sent out into the world, are they still loved, do they have homes, are they sitting in a shelter somewhere, have they already been PTS? I just could not image.

I hope for your sisters sake she has a little more sense than you have obviously displayed in this thread here with the half truths and the ingnorant little rants.

[pitc9]

Breeding to make money is the wrong reason to breed.
A responsible breeder breeds to better the breed, and NEVER for the money.

This is so sad..... :(
I wonder how many of these puppies will end up dieing homeless in shelters.

:(

Please tell her not to breed.
If she needs money and likes dogs, she should get a job working with animals. At a doggie day care, groomers... etc.

There are other ways your friend can make money with out adding to the overpopulation of America's unwanted pets that die in shelters.

[buttercup132]

Don't feed the troll. I'd like to think it's just someone trying to bug us and nobody would be that stupid to think the way it does.

[Lori Jordan]

Do all people breed for money? She isn't just breeding for money! Don't peole have a right to breed. Maybe it's for herself and she doesn't make money?


Just had to add my two cents worth.First in the first couple posts you started you said he was spoiled,That has nothing to do with the actual breeding.

He obviously was not tested,There is alot of tests they do before hand,And you say that your sister needs money,So obviously she could not afford the procedures before a breeding!

What is a min pin anyways?Is it not two mixed breed like a puggle?(If not i apologize)I have never heard of that breed before!


If you talk to any reputable breeder,They will tell you that they do not make any money,Infact most pay in more than what they take back!
You have to have them for checkups,there shots,and what ever other health issue that may occur.

There are a few breeders on here,Ask them they will tell you that Breeding is not a money maker,Why put an animal through that to make an extra buck?

Your sister is obviously mature enough,She should know better,Has she not seen the news and commercials of all the poor animals abandoned?

[animal_rescue]

A min pin is a Miniature Pinscher..

Most of my dogs in my life came from BYBs and Puppymills. I've seen the problems they can have and how sometiems it affects them at old age and some at young. My old GSD, Hannah, was put down due to aggression, turns out her WHOLE litter including her mother, was also put down due to aggression. My other GSD, Simon, was pretty aggressive as well. But he was also very family oriented unlike Hannah and we could control him. He also had bad hip problems in his old age as GSDs are prone to Hip Dysplasia I believe.
My old poodle, Alex, he is terrified of everything due to lack of socialization as a puppy. Takes him a very long time to get used to something otherwise he's pretty much scared of everything. His new owner now, says he just enjoys being in the house all the time. I have more but no time to talk about them.

BYBs shouldn't exist and I think it's rediculous when people are breeding for the "extra buck". If you can't afford the animals it's about time you start thinking about maybe rehoming a few, you shouldn't take in more if you can't handle them all.

[Lori Jordan]

I agree,If you think that breeding is going to put money in your pocket you are wrong!

[mruffruff]

I see from horse_lover's profile that he is only 13. This person and his sister need to learn what we all have about the plight of dogs and cats.

I certainly hope that the dogs are not bred. But I think we need to educate both of these people, not condemn them.

Until you have worked with a shelter or have done rescue work yourself, you really can't understand how bad the problem is. At 13, shelters won't let you volunteer. But visiting a couple of animal control places might give a hint of the problems.

Puppies are cute. They are also a lot of work and expense. Please try to get your sister to rethink this.

[*LabLoverKEB*]

WEll you don't know anything! How would you know if she even asked them! You people are so rude!

Okay, lighten up here...
1: These 'rude' people know A LOT more about breeding that you, or your friend know about breeding dogs.

2: They ARE NOT being rude to you! They are simply trying to HELP YOU.

Grow up a little, hon.

[Kirbys Mom]

i think ur sister should leave the breedin to the ppl who know what there doin, i have a breeder that i went to for all four of my chihuahua's. she is trustable offers a 1 year health guarntee and all 4 of my dogs have papers and yes they might be pure bred. but not all 4 might be 100% up to the UKC stranded since mine are ukc not akc. but anyway u need to know what ur doin, not just lovin ur dog and trainin it but more than that. if she needs money look for it in oher places and get her dogs fixed.

[nancyweNW]

I'm glad to see support for not breeding just because you can. I cry every time I walk into a shelter and see all those animals that need homes.

[Lady's Human]

This forum is very big on supporting rescues.

horse_lover, while we know this isn't your fault or your idea, the reaction you got was because there are many on this board who wind up dealing with poorly bred animals who wind up in shelters after the newness of having a puppy wears off.

[dogzr#1]

Okay then..Umm..Wow is all I have to say.

I don't know much about breedings dogs but I know the difference from a BYB from a reputable breeder.

*sigh* You still defend your sister, cousin whatever she is to you; after you've heard and seen all the min pins up for adoption. Have fun breeding your dog and getting like $5 in profit while 10 other min pins die in the shelter :D *end sarcasm*

Seriously though, if you were a reputable breeder and did all the tests like you are supposed to do (I don't even know, but some other PTers have listed them) then I'm sure you won't get any profit at all! Whatever, doubt you're going to listen to me or any of us.

I guess you won't get it through your thick skull that no matter what you think, your sister(or cousin) is a BYB. Sorry if I'm rude, but it's the truth!

[Alysser]

This is the number of Mini pin dogs in my area in shelters ALONE.

1130

Yeah, that's alot just for 1 dog breed.:eek:

[theterrierman]

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[Lady's Human]

Guys, enough with the troll comments.

I've had PM conversations with the OP before, and she is young, but NOT a troll.

Can it.

[theterrierman]

Alright, LH, I understand. Post edited. Sorry for anyone offended, I mistakenly thought this thread was a trolling attempt.

[horse_lover]

I get your point now. I guess i never really understood anything and how the animals are dying in shelters. I've actually never been to a shelter or a humane society or anything. My cousin isn't breeding him. I guess her friend or neighbor or someone wanted to know. Just thought i'd let everyone know that. I talked to her and she said she doesn't want to breed him. she never did. I was the one who had it wrong.