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moosmom
05-25-2006, 02:18 PM
Congress Bars Military Funeral Protesters
By JIM ABRAMS

WASHINGTON (AP) - Demonstrators would be barred from disrupting military funerals at national cemeteries under legislation approved by Congress and sent to the White House Wednesday

The measure, passed by voice vote in the House hours after the Senate passed an amended version, specifically targets a Kansas church group that has staged protests at military funerals around the country, claiming that the deaths were a sign of God's anger at U.S. tolerance of homosexuals.

The act ``will protect the sanctity of all 122 of our national cemeteries as shrines to their gallant dead,'' Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., said prior to the Senate vote.

``It's a sad but necessary measure to protect what should be recognized by all reasonable people as a solemn, private and deeply sacred occasion,'' he said.

Under the Senate bill, approved without objection by the House with no recorded vote, the ``Respect for America's Fallen Heroes Act'' would bar protests within 300 feet of the entrance of a cemetery and within 150 feet of a road into the cemetery from 60 minutes before to 60 minutes after a funeral. Those violating the act would face up to a $100,000 fine and up to a year in prison.

The sponsor of the House bill, Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., said he took up the issue after attending a military funeral in his home state, where mourners were greeted by ``chants and taunting and some of the most vile things I have ever heard.''

``Families deserve the time to bury their American heroes with dignity and in peace,'' Rogers said Wednesday before the Hosue vote.

The demonstrators are led by the Rev. Fred Phelps of Topeka, Kan., who has previously organized protests against those who died of AIDS and gay murder victim Matthew Shepard.

In an interview when the House bill passed, Phelps said Congress was ``blatantly violating the First Amendment'' rights to free speech in passing the bill. He said that if the bill becomes law he will continue to demonstrate but would abide by the restrictions.

Sen. Pat Roberts, a Republican from Kansas, said the loved ones of those who die have already sacrificed for the nation and ``we must allow them the right to mourn without being thrust into a political circus.''

In response to the demonstrations, the Patriot Guard Riders, a motorcyle group including many veterans, has begun appearing at military funerals to pay respects to the fallen service member and protect the family from disruptions.

More than a dozen states are considering similar laws to restrict protests at nonfederal cemeteries. The American Civil Liberties Union has filed a lawsuit against a new Kentucky law, saying it goes too far in limiting freedom of speech and expression.

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It's about time!!! Freedom of speech and expression has it's place and it's NOT at a military funeral!!! Go picket the freaking White House!!

Lady's Human
05-25-2006, 04:41 PM
I have mixed feelings about this. While I agree military (or other) funerals are not the place for protest, I don't think it should be handled through legislation. It's an unneccesary limit on the freedom of speech. The only reason it's a national issue is that there's one group of bozos who have no clue.

The bill isn't going to stop them, it's just going to give them a bigger national stage. Now they can take their fight to the supreme court and get more exposure. Personally, a better tactic would be for the press to unanimously ignore them. All they want is the attention, they don't care where it's coming from.

lbaker
05-25-2006, 05:02 PM
Exactly LH, "any attention is better than no attention". (ask any JD in any town) Time to "feed the sharks" *again* :(

lizbud
05-25-2006, 05:34 PM
Indiana already passed such a law & I think several other states have
too. I think it's to bad that we have to pass a law for people to get some
respect & consideration at a family burial.It this works, and it has here, it's
worth it to stop their hateful message.

BOBS DAD
05-25-2006, 06:37 PM
Indiana already passed such a law & I think several other states have
too. I think it's to bad that we have to pass a law for people to get some
respect & consideration at a family burial.It this works, and it has here, it's
worth it to stop their hateful message.

I AGREE. IT'S A SHAME THAT SOME JERKOFFS LIKE THESE MAKE IT NECESSARY TO LEGISLATE, BUT I AM FOR IT IF IT WORKS.

Edwina's Secretary
05-26-2006, 09:52 AM
I have mixed feelings about this. While I agree military (or other) funerals are not the place for protest, I don't think it should be handled through legislation. It's an unneccesary limit on the freedom of speech. The only reason it's a national issue is that there's one group of bozos who have no clue.

The bill isn't going to stop them, it's just going to give them a bigger national stage. Now they can take their fight to the supreme court and get more exposure. Personally, a better tactic would be for the press to unanimously ignore them. All they want is the attention, they don't care where it's coming from.


Oh dear, oh dear. Is it a full moon???? LH and I may be in agreement again... :eek: :eek: :D

I am a libertarian I guess. I find the behavior of these jerks reprehensible but I would prefer a law allowing them to be beaten with sticks than prohibit free speech. It is a slipperly slope....I don't think it is a good idea to start making "Being a Jerk" illegal. There are too many definitions of "Jerk".

I mean....how would some of you feel if I was the one appointed to determine what should be allowed to be said and what not???? :D :D :rolleyes: :D Scary, isn't it???

momoffuzzyfaces
05-27-2006, 05:32 PM
It's church groups like that who give all us Christians a bad rap!!!

What in the world are they thinking?
If God were mad at the US for the things it allows, he wouldn't go after the innocent ones, he'd go after the ones allowing it. Washington D.C. would have been erased off the map years ago!!!

I just don't get the connection between the poor soldiers who died doing what their country asked and homosexuals, specially since the ones who died were not homosexual, as far as I know anyhow.

Don't look now, but I may be agreeing with LH and ES too! :eek:
Is that a sign of the Apocalypse? ;)

lbaker
05-27-2006, 06:37 PM
"homo sexuals"? Vets? Bad Manners? Jerks? Lets pass yet another LAW, ratified by our Congress. And while we are at it ~ let us "erase" Washington DC off the map. That will teach "them" :rolleyes: No "homo sexuals" in the military ~ oh please.

momoffuzzyfaces
05-27-2006, 07:55 PM
Maybe "straight" people should sue the government. After all, why should they be the only ones risking life and limb in the armed services? :confused:

Edwina's Secretary
05-28-2006, 10:26 PM
Pssst...there are homosexuals in the Armed Forces...only they have double-duty....defending America and hiding who they are for fear of being kicked out of the job!!!!!

PinkSunshine
05-28-2006, 10:56 PM
It's about time!!! Freedom of speech and expression has it's place and it's NOT at a military funeral!!

I totally agree! It's about damn time