what do you think of these collars?

[lute]

do you think this is a good collar or too dangerous?

nylon choke collar (http://www.dog.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=100109+608&Cat=)

[ashleycat]

I don't know much about colars. Sorry to steal the thread a lil bit. But what is the best colar or tool used to get the dog not to pull on leash?

[Flatcoatluver]

I have one for Zoey, I don't use it though, well I did when she was a puppy. I think is better then a choke chain. I don't like choke chains. On that collor right before it chokes them you can hear a sound and they finally get the picture that when they hear that sound it means their not healing.

[lute]

I don't know much about colars. Sorry to steal the thread a lil bit. But what is the best colar or tool used to get the dog not to pull on leash?
hmmm.... i've found the products below to be most effective to stopping pulling.

Gentle leader collar (http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=9052&N=2001+113845)
chain and prong collars(prong is most effective) (http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=357&N=2001+113845)
NO pull harness (http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=12052&inm=1&N=2001+113845+2032)

Good Luck! :D

[lv4dogs]

Those are just like the martingale collars, like used on greyhounds & the like. They are the safest choke collar they make!
If you need to use any type of choke collar this would be the kind to use!!! :D

[SummerRiot]

If a choke chain is used improperly you can severly damage your dogs threachia internally.

Puppies should ALWAYS be trained in a flat nylon collar.

Riot was first trained to heel in a flat collar - then as his conformation training progressed he was switched over to a thin show choker.

He ONLY uses his show choker when he is in the show ring, or praticing for the show.

Any other time he is with a flat collar.
If your dog pulls, I suggest getting either professional help or using a haltie. They are fabulous and do wonders. In Riots RallyO class there is a BC there that was a horrible little puller. Now she heels without a leash thanks to her halti training.

[Suki Wingy]

If your dog pulls very badly,
1. Get a prong collar first
2. I reccomend the "stop and go" method. When they pull, you stop and ask them back to your side. That way they learn that if they pull, they will not get to go forward. The halti is great, but many dogs never get used to wearing them, even with propper training.

[ashleycat]

I think I like the head one best. The prongs on that other one scare me.

[lv4dogs]

If your dog pulls very badly,
1. Get a prong collar first
2. I reccomend the "stop and go" method. When they pull, you stop and ask them back to your side. That way they learn that if they pull, they will not get to go forward. The halti is great, but many dogs never get used to wearing them, even with propper training.


Great advice.

You can also do the "turn" method. When they pull you turn around & start walking in the other direction. The same concept, they learn if they pull they will not get to go foward and possibly even be left behind.

[Suki Wingy]

We used to use that, but I think it just confused Niño. He learned to turn on a dime, then take off in the new direction. :rolleyes: I actually started doing that when the about turn didn't work, then I read it in that "Training Secrets for Bully Breeds" Magazine.

[lv4dogs]

He learned to turn on a dime, then take off in the new direction. :rolleyes:

I never thought of that. I will have to keep that in mind for those dogs that don't learn with just the turn. Thanks a bunch for the info! :)

[JenBKR]

I think I like the head one best. The prongs on that other one scare me.

The prongs look scary, but really they are not harmful at all. I have one for Roscoe and I swear by it!

[lute]

I think I like the head one best. The prongs on that other one scare me.
thay aren't scary at all IF used properly! it doesn't hurt the dog. it just pinches it and makes it stop and pay attention to you.

[cocker_luva]

i prefer those to the choke chains.

[Crazy-Cat-Lover]

I use a Prong collar for Bailey. :)

[critter crazy]

thay aren't scary at all IF used properly! it doesn't hurt the dog. it just pinches it and makes it stop and pay attention to you.

I agree if used properly they are a great training tool!!! I have used them on many dogs, and each time they have worked!!

[ashleycat]

How do you use them properly?

[RobiLee]

do you think this is a good collar or too dangerous?

nylon choke collar (http://www.dog.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=100109+608&Cat=)


I think it looks like it would be a good collar. I love the Lupine (http://www.lupinepet.com/index.html) martingale style ones though.

[lute]

I think it looks like it would be a good collar. I love the Lupine (http://www.lupinepet.com/index.html) martingale style ones though.
i LOOOOOVE lupine collars and leads!!! i have the Splash collar and lead set and the Flower Power set. i'm getting ready to buy the Tickled Pink, Muddy Paws, and Ruby Cube sets. i'm a colar and lead FAAAREAK! :D

[RobiLee]

I really like the tickled pink one and keep thinking about getting that one for Tori. I also like the picnic basket one. Katie has he Ruby Cube one. Hmm, I don't see the one Tori has. Maybe they discontinued it. I like it alot because it matches her coat so well.

[Giselle]

How do you use them properly?
Do you have any behaviorists or professional trainers near you? Or maybe at least a breeder or two? I've seen your previous threads on Charlie and, from what I've heard, he needs some serious professional help. I think it would also help you because it would give you both some sense of direction and structure.

Also, I would not recommend using a prong collar if you don't know how to and if the prongs scare you. Most (nearly all, as a matter of fact) people use the prong incorrectly. When properly utilized and fitted, the prong sits very high on the dog's neck, directly behind the ears of the dog and right up under the throat. It would achieve greatest effectiveness in this position.

Here's a link:
http://www.leerburg.com/fit-prong.htm

Just as a sidenote: ALL training tools are dangerous and have the potential to harm your dog. Haltis are just as likely to damage your dog's trachea as a prong or choke collar is. In fact, there has been speculation that haltis can do even more damage than prongs/chokes because should the dog jerk its head suddenly (which Giselle has done many times), the halti could do *severe* damage. I just want to dispel the myth that haltis/head halters are foolproof - they aren't.

[zoomer]

I have one I use for Buddy. I think they are competely humane and do not hurt as much as choke collars, although a firm jerk will keep the dog under control. Buddy does well with it.